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02-03-2006, 07:09 PM
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Ride: VZ Storm Ute
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 33
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help driftin an auto ute for beginner?
I own or am payin off for a long time... a VZ storm ute V6, standard engine, lowered suspension but still legal height. Im only fresh on my P's and would like some tips on drifting it since its auto and light in the ass...
Not interested in people comin in here sayin im an idiot or w/e, if ur not givin me a tip then dont comment.
all help would be much appreciated, cheers.
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02-03-2006, 07:55 PM
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Ride: 355 VG :)
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: berri, south australia
Posts: 3,265
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drifting an auto is the quickest way to kill it dude sorry... just tellin ya it runs them dry and you will feel it slip and nothing will happen for a second or so.... trust me the last thing u want is a cooked transmission cos warranty will be askin questions if you blow one!!!
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02-03-2006, 07:57 PM
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Ride: VR Clubsport 5 speed, VN V6
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Melbourne
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thats why you get a VN for that kind of stuff, not a brand new car
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02-03-2006, 07:59 PM
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The Kicking Horse
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Ride: VX Executive S2 + XF Panel Van Project
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Geelong, Vic
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Just to clarify, you're asking for tips on drifting so you can drift in a safe and legal manner right?
Ie. A legal drifting comp or something..
But if your advice is for drifting around on local roads, then I don't think you'l get much advice..
Best to clarify these things in your inital post.. People may take it the wrong way otherwise..
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02-03-2006, 08:44 PM
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Ride: VZ Storm Ute
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 33
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^^drifting on private property with mates... completely legal.
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02-03-2006, 09:26 PM
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Ride: 91' VN SS & 94' VR BT1
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Melbourne
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Ok get a standalone oil cooler for the trans and power steering first.
On a standard car with stock suspension easiest way would be two options: first is to simple reef on the handbrake till the ass steps out, then take it off and accelerate to keep it going. Other option is to swing it to the left, then hard right while droping it back to 1st or 2nd depending on speed.
Really in a car with stock suspension and an auto you are going to struggle.
I cant gaurentee you wont do any damage and dont condone it being done on the street.
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02-03-2006, 10:12 PM
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Ride: VS Exec SII
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 135
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If it's ashphalt - get your sprinkler out.
It'll be so much kinder on your tyres, trans, driveline, engine, steering etc.
Just get the area really really wet and you'll find it a lot easier.
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02-03-2006, 10:18 PM
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Ride: 355 VG :)
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: berri, south australia
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ok auto right???
do about 40 k's in first gear pull hardright so it snaps both wheels and nail it to get both wheels spinning and you should start to see a drift
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02-03-2006, 10:30 PM
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Morgasshk
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Ride: VY Exec 3.8L Sedan 9C1 Pack
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 391
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drive into a corner softly, 1/3rd of the way through, punch it, hook hardright, and coming out of the turn (you should be spinning already) hook back the other way...
Only advise doing this on Right hand turns though...
Realy though, you want the best, easier, safest and cheapest way to learn - all through self learning about how YOUR ride handles, they are all different
Get to a SMOOTHE dirt patch, or big grassy area, drive like normal and turn hard etc, don't get scared, remember to accelerate OUT of skids or drifts and DON'T brake heavily when you start to lose it (obviously the more open area the better and NEVER have spectator's... just in case) Seriously, I learnt like this and has saved me in various possible accidents when I otherwise would have **** myself and planted the brakes (i mean spinning out in the wet, or on oil by accident... I try NOT to skid my friggin $400 tyres! lmao)
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03-03-2006, 08:40 AM
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Ride: VT SS 5.7L Commodore.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,392
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I thought drifting you have to have the car sideways before entering the corner?
I call driving into a corner then powering out sideways power sliding, which I have learnt to do.
I was under the impression in drifting, you either rip the handbrake well before the corner then power on hell to keep the car sliding until you hook it around the corner. As I have seen them do this. Similar to rally driving, except in rallying they actually save time by sliding.
But I could be wrong too.
Mind you yes, please do this stuff on a property. Gutters and light poles aren't very forgiving and you stuff up in your drifting and slide into them.
But mate, do us all a favour dont' go doing this in your new car. That's abusing it. Go and buy a unregistered VN/VP, as if you are only going to be doing this stuff on private land. Because you are bound to side swipe hidden rocks, branches. Trust me, them and your mags/body work don't go too well together.
I remember once in my paddy basher I was sliding around a paddock and busted my fuel tank. I was wondering why my fuel gauge instantly dropped to empty and the motor konked out. Until I could smell petrol, got out and look at the tank. Then I saw the big rock I hit. Not pretty.
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03-03-2006, 09:51 AM
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Morgasshk
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Ride: VY Exec 3.8L Sedan 9C1 Pack
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brisbane
Posts: 391
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meh. *shrug*
my bad, I guess I try NOT to drift then... I don't have clue.. oh well, sue me. :P
having not owned an 8 yet (  ) I haven't had much chance to try drifting without the help of a nice corner... :P (or brakes!)
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03-03-2006, 03:02 PM
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Ride: VT SS 5.7L Commodore.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 1,392
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No I am not saying you are wrong, I could be wrong myself. Just watch the next drifting series of the cars, they have the rear ends of their cars hanging out before hitting the corner. But I have also noticed on some corners probably due to their situation they drive into then come out sideways as what I call a power slide.
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03-03-2006, 04:57 PM
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Projecting
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Ride: VL PROJECT
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: QLD
Posts: 3,397
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Drifting isn't always locking up the handbrake and then controlling a slide. Theres about 5 different ways to initiate a drift. Just the more sideways you are the better it is.
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03-03-2006, 06:05 PM
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Ride: VN Executive
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 19
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in my vn auto, 2nd has always been the best gear for sideways action, 1st almost always isnt high enough an the ol' 6 doesnt have the power to pull 3rd. You have to not like your car to do it properly though, as you need to thrash the ring out of your car to go big sideways | | |