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Old 30-08-2006, 03:47 PM
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Default eBay Performance Chip Q & A

No doubt you will have seen 'chips' offered on eBay for various models of car at extremely low prices. These chips claim to offer more power, more torque and various other wonderous things.

Q. What is it?

A. It is a resistor that is worth a few cents. It can be purchased at any Dick Smith or electronics store.


Q. What does it do?

A. It fools the ECU into thinking that the engine is lean so more fuel is used.


Q. Does it work?

A. Honestly, don't bother. Save your money
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if anyone would like to add any more info, let me know and ill edit it in
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Old 30-08-2006, 03:53 PM
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yea maybe a link so ppl sont get em confused with proper 1s
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Old 30-08-2006, 04:18 PM
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ebay links are dead within a certin ammount of time
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Old 30-08-2006, 04:57 PM
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As Troy said, it's a resistor which fools the car into thinking the air coming in is colder than it actually is. The ECU compensates by pumping in more fuel and these can and probably will do more than good..

You'll probably drown your catalytic convertors in unburnt fuel (destroying your cats) and the car will be running rich..

I tried to do it and my car overheated.. If you pay for postage, I'll send you resistors for free.. If you wanna f*ck up your car that is..
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The following is a straight cut and paste from http://www.fuelsaving.info/chipping.htm

"Special mention should be made here of the devices that are connected to the engine ECU's air temperature sensor plug. These are sometimes referred to as "performance chips" by the people who sell them, though in fact they are nothing of the sort. These devices are just ordinary resistors, worth about 2p, which "work" by fooling the ECU into thinking that the intake air is much colder than it really is. These devices have two main effects:

1) Richer fuelling. On engines that use a manifold pressure sensor (not an air meter) to determine the air flow into the engine, air density is a critical parameter. Colder air is more dense, so at a particular manifold pressure there is more mass of air flowing into the engine. If the ECU thinks the air is cold, it will inject more fuel to cope and so the mixture will be richer. Unfortunately, while it is quite true that a rich mixture (around lambda 0.9) gives more power than a stoichiometric mixture (lambda 1), all engines are set to run pretty close to this optimum mixture at full load anyway. Hence adding more fuel is unlikely to be of benefit - what is likely to happen is that your fuel consumption will be terrible since the excess fuel is simply wasted.

If your engine uses an air flow meter, then air temperature has very little effect on the injected fuel quantity so the device will do almost nothing to the mixture. Even on systems with manifold pressure sensors, the lambda sensor will try and correct back to lambda = 1 and so the effect on fuelling may be small.

2) More advanced ignition timing. When the intake air is cold, the engine is less likely to "knock" . Therefore you can use more ignition advance, which would normally provide more power. (As a general rule, on most engines, the ignition timing is set somewhat retarded from optimum because of the danger of knocking). So, if you fit a device like this that fools the engine into thinking the air is very cold, it will (in most cases) apply more ignition advance, which will probably produce more power. But, it gives a very much greater risk of catastrophic knock, which can effectively destroy the engine! Normally there is a certain amount of safety reserve built in and so generally you would get away with it, but the risk is very high.

So one of these "chips" may give you a slight increase in performance, but may also seriously damage your engine. And on any modern vehicle you are quite likely to trigger the Check Engine Light / Malfunction Indicator Lamp, as the ECU will realise that the air temperature signal is implausible. Avoid!"
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Im guessing this is a dodgy chip..
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Intake-Mod-Ch...QQcmdZViewItem

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/PERFORMANCE-C...QQcmdZViewItem
And this is good?
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simple rule of ebay. if they need 3-5 pages full of bull**** facts just to prove to you that you want this chip, then its a piece of crap and your wasting your money.
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the second 1 is good mate.. i bought my chip of that blackstar7000 dude and yer its all good and im getttin my cai too of them
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Do not buy one of these
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Old 20-09-2006, 08:16 PM
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Im just wondering what modifications you would need prior to putting on these ebay 'Performance Memcals' ?

Dont want to spend $150 on a chip thats not giving me the gains.
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can anyone post a proper engine chip site or somethign i wonna get one for my vr.
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i also purchased from blackstar7000 .... good chip as far as i know. seems to work fine
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