motec fitted, now dramas with t700

[metalskin]

i made a huge investment and had motec engine management fitted to my blown vs ss. my auto box was fine before motec was fitted, has a shift kit and a high stall etc. when i picked my girl up she struggled to pull away in drive, when i manually shift down it will pull away. appears to have no first gear, has only 2nd and third.
spent 600 bucks at precision automatics only to be told its not an internal problem with the box, he cant tell me what the problem is exept its runnin at full line pressure.
the installer of the motec doesnt wanna know about it either, i tell you it sucks, after spending close to 6000 on the motec and it wont cold start and coughs and farts when it is running.
i believe they have wired it wrong, also i noticed about half a dozen wires have been cutt on the original ecu.
can anyone please shed some light on my dramas, im about ready to go "postal" as no one wants to know once they have your cash.
my car has gone from a nice streeter to a p.o.s.

[Snotty]

that sucks man. wat did the installer say?

[metalskin]

said he will see me in court!!!!

[greenfoam]

Well I dont know if the motec can controll the gearbox, but I know the factory ecu would have run your car just the same and still run the auto perfectly with a $130 2 bar sensor and some free software :|

[sircruisealotVS]

sounds to me like the installer of the motec has not "shared" the appropriate wires between the delco and the motec. as greenfoam said the motec wont controll the auto so the delco will have to still do that, meaning some wires would have to remain hooked up to the delco for the auto box to remain functioning as per normal.
but yeah, basically id say its a wiring issue with how this dude has installed the motec.

[Doctor Bob]

sounds like you should go and visit Dan at Chipmaster, he will straighten it out for you.
by the sound of it the installer has buggered it up.
and a crook tune to boot.

Rob

[JD]

fancy that dude saying "ill see you in court"
so much for customer service.

maybe get consumer watchdogs on his ass.

[markovr]

If the scumbag wont fix it lets tell the world about his expertise or lack of and hope with his attitude his business suffers dramatically.

[metalskin]

i have my hands tied, the motec installer repeatedly tells me "we havent touched the gearbox!!".
i say, " well it was fine when i dropped it off and now she`s shit house, surely its your doing."
he replies, "we aint a gearbox shop so tuff".
basically ive been told stiff shit, if we **** your box its not our problem. its known in the business if anything goes wrong the customer bares all responsibility.
**** mate, i didnt fill out any indemnity forms to that effect!!
see-ya in court then, we taken plenty of guys to court and never lost...
the mother-****ers!!

[sircruisealotVS]

they dont need to touch the box, they've f*cked with the wiring looms when fitting the motec and have obviously screwed it up...thus your electronically controlled box is now not working as per normal.
id try taking it to someone else (like an auto elecy, etc.) and get them to sus it out, 10 bucks they find wires in the wrong place or cut, which should still be in the stock delco running the box.
then take the bill back to these f*cknuckles who intially installed it. if they wont pay it take them to small claims court with a written report from a secondary party (the auto elecy or which ever professional you take it to to get fixed) stating the problem was from a dodgy install.

[Snotty]

sounds like sircruisealot has the right idea, if you explain it to an auto electrician they will probably be happy to help. just keep good records, even photos if you can.

[metalskin]

thanks for your positive feedback guys, its given me some confidence and hope.
its been such a dissapointing experience, as well as screwing the box and having a bad tune they couldnt even get the nitrous system to run with the motec. the nos would continually blow fuses i was informed therefore making it inopperable. on inspection i found heat damaged and bare wiring.
ill keep yewz posted on my progress.
one thing is certain, i miss my car car as the flower misses the bee.

[minux]

Just curious, why exactly did you figure a motec EMS would be good for you? Kind of a waste of money really, now it has just caused mor eproblems. All the best with it though.

[Snap]

The MOTEC is controlling the Engine, but whats controlling your gearbox?

Some MOTEC's I've since need to be set up so they can control the sift points on the Turbo 700.

It's a bit hard to diag without more info. But I'm sure it sounds like there's nothing controlling the gearbox.

Aftermarket management provides a larger range of tuneability for fuel and spark.

Alternative is manual shift kit.

[minux]

Aftermarket management provides a larger range of tuneability for fuel and spark.

lol, but people run 10's all day with standard system, knowing how hard perth is for engineering certs, i doubt the car would be quick enough to warrant a decent system.

[Snap]

lol, but people run 10's all day with standard system, knowing how hard perth is for engineering certs, i doubt the car would be quick enough to warrant a decent system.

Huh? Sounds like the person has installed the MOTEC for future use that is beyond the stock ECU.

Or as you point it, it's cos I'm a dumbarse and have misunderstood the post?

[metalskin]

minux--- my SS is putting out just over 360kw at the treads without a shot of NOS. it runs a supercharger with aprox 6pounds boost.
the reason for using motec is due to its tunability, therefore the car should be able to meet emission laws.
the motec can also control the nitrous system very effectively, right upto purging the system prior intake to the engine.

as regards to the t700 prob i think the prob may be a low voltage signal to the original ecu. they tap into existing ecu wires for the motec i have noticed. so lets hope this is the ailment.......

[sircruisealotVS]

hey mate, have you sorted out the dramas with your 'box?

[Stewart1000]

yeah i agree with whoever said something about small claims, it only costs you some 20 dollars and you will probably end up getting a bit of money back from the job. then get it fixed up with that money and have some left over.

Good luck with it

[U121]

they sound like a bunch we've got in townsville... although i don't think they've ever WON a case.

[sircruisealotVS]

dude, get back to me if your still having dramas with the auto....i have just had a extremely similar situation (i hooked up a microtech to my VS and the auto only had 3rd) and we worked out how to get the 'box working properly.