New 235/45 R17 Tyre Recommendations

[Huthy]

Guys,

I've currently get the original Bridgestone RE030's on my VY SS Ute. I've done 40,000k's and am now looking at some new rubber.

Does anybody have any suggestions/recommendations on what to get. I don't drive too hard, 40k from the originals is proof! I want something that is still quality, but don't want to outlay $370 a corner!

What about Falken?

What about Toyo?

What about Maxxis?

What about Hankook?


Any help would be appreciated. We all know what tyre guys are like... They all have the best tyre.. The last one was crap... This ones soft, yet will last for 80k....

Huthy

[calais_304]

i recommend maxxis, i've had them on the ford and now my calais and i can't get enough, the handle fantastic, drive really well in the wet (like really well ) ummm what else can i say there just bloody great all rounder, i've had nankang, bridgestone and dunlops before the maxxis and i will never get anything but maxxis, oh there usually one of the cheapest to

$230 a tyre im pretty sure, 235/45 17. could even be 200


EDIT: NO I DO NOT WORK FOR MAXXIS OR ANY TYRE SHOP.....just love em!

[Burt_vn]

Id say nankang, ive always found them to be a good cheap tyre. They are the best value tyre on the market at the moment, IMO.

[davey g-force]

Maxxis MA-Z1 are as good if not better than the Potenzas from my experience. And much cheaper...

From all the tyre comparison tests I've read, there's always less than 10% difference between the best tyre and the worst tyre anyway. Hence the varying opinions from tyre shop guys.

I've also heard good things about Falkens, Toyo's and Nankangs.

[Huthy]

What model of Maxxis would you suggest?
I've been quoted on the MA-V1 and Victra?

[klaw81]

I've had a few sets of Falken tyres (326's and another model I've forgotten) and found them to be ok - good grip but noisy and slippery in the wet.

I'm not a big fan of the Nankangs - they certainly last a long time but I've found them to be hopeless in wet weather.

Currently I'm hooked on Federal 595's - quite cheap, but easily better than either of the Falken tyres in every way...and they seem to last quite well too. Highly recommended.

[Burt_vn]

Yeah the nankangs last, thats why i prefer them. And they do handle terribly in the wet, thats half the fun isnt it?

[calais_304]

What model of Maxxis would you suggest?
I've been quoted on the MA-V1 and Victra?

victra mate, also they won wheels 2006 tyre of the year with best wet breaking and noise!

[fu2]

im running sumo firenzas, good tyre and quite cheap, handel great in the wet and they dont make as much noise as my old potenza g3's

[JD]

MA-Z1 are more expensive but i belevie that MA-V1 are pretty much the same in quailty and are a bit cheaper

[krazyboris]

Yup, running v1's on mine, and no complaints here! Saw a catalog (one of the major tyre joints) maxxis v1's at $150.

[batemada]

Im running a set of Dunlop Direzza DZ101's on my VT waggon and i am very happy with them, very good in the wet and dont wear out fast either.

they dont mind a bit of weight on them either.

[Surfwagon]

I run Falken GRB F451 (new model 452 I think). great in the wet or dry last about 20-25,000klm and cost under $200 each, far better then the 326 or 329's.

[pugga]

Federal 595 on my VS - 235/45/17's -Cost me only $125 from holmart.com.au

http://www.federaltire.com/en/html/p...DB=motosports#

[coolvxss]

I have some 235/45 R17 maxxis MA-V1 on mine. I recon they are a awesome tire for the price. I just got mine on special for $149 a tire from bobjane. They might still have them on sale. The maxxis MA-V1 came with my wheel and tire package, but last week had to replace the rear right tire. For some reason it keeps wearing out faster then the rest.

[pandaman]

Federal 595 on my VS - 235/45/17's -Cost me only $125 from holmart.com.au

http://www.federaltire.com/en/html/p...DB=motosports#

That's a damned good price for the feddy's. As per usual I'll go the company line and say they're not a bad tyre. (I work for the people who wholesale them) I ran them on my old car and they gripped quite nicely in the wet and dry, only downsides are that they're a soft compound so they wear a bit quicker than some people are happy with and they can be a bit noisy on the open road.

[97 SEN]

I had the federal 595 and i didn't like them, they are fine in the dry, but they seemed a bit strange in the wet. I found they would kick out at the back unexpectedly eg. at light throttle comming around a corner they would let go on the gear change (auto not shift kitted or anything) but you'ld barley feel the change. But if you accelerated around the corner they were fine. It was like they just needed a bit of weight on them to get the grip.

stopped fine in the wet etc. but didn't like the back end kicking out while granny driving around a corner at 20 kph.

They are also very noisy when the tread gets about half way down.

mind you if i could only afford 150 or so per tire i'ld choose them

I now have pirrelli dragons $220 per tire only had them for 5000kms, love them so far, really hang on wet or dry, when you make them let go they still have grip to work with.

Previously had pirrelli p5000 and p6000

the p5000 were fantastic lots of grip all the time even through deep water really noisy. p6000 about 80% as good as the p5000 not alot of noise.

my mate has some sava? or something like that on his car and they are terrible in the wet.

[Huthy]

I have some 235/45 R17 maxxis MA-V1 on mine. I recon they are a awesome tire for the price. I just got mine on special for $149 a tire from bobjane. They might still have them on sale. The maxxis MA-V1 came with my wheel and tire package, but last week had to replace the rear right tire. For some reason it keeps wearing out faster then the rest.

With the Maxxis, do they have a treadwear rating on the sidewall? What is it? I'm just trying to compare the Bridgestones, with 140 as a rating.. Seems pretty soft to me... But hey I got 40,000 out of them!!

[Redroostr]

I run GT Radial Champiro HPZ-17's. Really nice piece of rubber. Good price to I got them for $140 a piece. They handle really well and stick like sh*t to a blanket.

[97 SEN]

They handle really well and stick like sh*t to a blanket.

So do they dry out over time and just crumble apart?

[Huthy]

Do any of the tyres mentioned here have a treadwear rating stamped on the sidewall...

I seem to remember the Temperature, XXXX, and Treadwear Ratings are stamped only on "Australian" tyres? Does anybody now what the criteria for these ratings are? The only thing I know is A for Temperature, and XXXX, is the best you can get... Mind you I 've never seen a B or C... And Treadwear rating..Well the bigger the number, the longer the tyre should theortetically last!

[coolvxss]

With the Maxxis, do they have a treadwear rating on the sidewall? What is it? I'm just trying to compare the Bridgestones, with 140 as a rating.. Seems pretty soft to me... But hey I got 40,000 out of them!!

I just looked and, tread wear 300, traction A, Temp A. What does all this mean? i have never noticed it on my tires till i just looked then. The higher or lower the number better for tread wear?

[Huthy]

Just done some research and found out the following, but yes the higher the number, the better the wear!

Uniform Tire Quality Grading is a US government mandated tire rating system. It is required for all Passenger type tires.

The Treadwear rating is a number based on a vehicle test where tires are compared to a control tire. The rating is based on a percentage in projected wear life. So a tire rated at 400, projected twice as far as a tire rated at 200.

The Traction rating is a letter based on a straight-line wet surface braking test. The ratings are AA, A, B, and C. AA is the highest rating possible. The AA rating is relatively new and many tires currently rated as A might qualify for an AA rating, but have not yet been tested. It is important to remember that the test does not test hydroplaning resistance, nor dry or snow traction nor, cornering capability - wet, dry or snow.

The Temperature rating is a letter based on a step speed test. The possible ratings are A, B, and C. The rating is a bit of a misnomer. While temperature does play a role in the speed capability of a tire, it is not the only factor.

[Huthy]

What are the Tests?

The Treadwear rating is based on a wear test performed on a 400 mile government test course covering specified sections of public roads in Texas. A group of not more than 4 test vehicles travels the course in a convoy so that all tires experience the same conditions. Tread groove depths of the tires being tested are measured after each 800 miles. The same procedure is followed for a set of "control" or "course monitoring tires" Upon the completion of the 7200 mile test, the rating results of both tires are compared, and the tires being tested are assigned a treadwear rating according to government standards. This number can be used to compare between tires. In the above example, this tire rated 150 should last 1/2 as long as a tire rated 300. The relative performance of tires depends upon the actual conditions of their use and may be significantly different from the norm due to differences in road characteristics and climate.

The Traction ratings are AA, A, B, and C, from highest to lowest. This measurement indicates a tires ability to stop in a straight line on wet pavement. The rating is based on a 40mph test where the brakes are "locked up" on wet asphalt and wet concrete surfaces. It's important to remember that this rating does not indicate the tires ability to resists hydroplaning, and do not apply to cornering traction.

Temperature ratings are determined by running tires on an indoor roadwheel test under specified conditions. Successive 30 minute runs are made in 5mph increments starting at 75mph and continuing until the tires fails. Tires with an A rating must withstand at least 114mph, B at least 99mph, and C at least 85mph. These measurements indicate the tire's ability to sustain high temperatures which often cause tires to wear away quickly or in extreme conditions lead to sudden tire failure.

[NVE_069]

i have maxxis on my car and i dont like them but thats only coz they make too much nosie