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    Quote Originally Posted by al99 View Post
    Can i play to?
    Hardly anyone ever does cos they know they will get whipped lol
    Guys this guy may have a quick gts-t with a big turbo running 2bar putting out 600 hp at the crank.
    And theres going to be gen3's out there supercharged that are going to kick ass.
    Nothing wrong with quick jap cars in my eyes, same as nothing wrong with a modded gen3
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    Quote Originally Posted by al99 View Post
    Nothing wrong with the hard launching wrx in the 2nd video there champ
    Read the comment mate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spaced View Post
    yeah the Ls1 boys will own you good and propper. Just cause you have a skyline doesn't make you the fastest car on the road. Just cause you own a v8 doesn't make you the fastest car on the road. The only fast skylines are the GT-R's that are stroked out to 2.9L just cause you own a GTS-T don't mean a thing it's still slower than a gT-R and a GT-R is slower than a stroked GT-R you starting to get the drift?

    the only LS1's you've been beating have had 60 year olds behind the wheel. The ricer loser flyby doesn't count as a race.
    Nah, I don't do fly bys. If I drop behind, I don't keep going, and there's only 2 cars I've lost two, one would be a mates 10second GTR, the other to my mates GTS-t because all I did was drop the clutch for a touch of fun and smoke show 1st 2nd and 3rd.

    And a GTR isn't the quickest skyline out. Yes, absolutely great in a 1/4mile run. Excellent that way, not so nimble in the corners, with an added weight of over 200KG over the front wheels, they tend to understeer. Rolling run, they get annihilated by cars of similar, and even less power.

    And I never claimed to be the fastest. What I first commented on (And you can even go back and have a look if you don't beleive me) is the fact someone claimed to be able to outlaunch a WRX in a RWD.

    My mates 8second R33 gets out launched by a friends 10second GTR, BUT the GTS-t makes it all up the moment it's nearing the top of 1st gear (over 100km/h)

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    Got a time slip for this 8 sec car?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MBS206 View Post
    Nah, I don't do fly bys. If I drop behind, I don't keep going, and there's only 2 cars I've lost two, one would be a mates 10second GTR, the other to my mates GTS-t because all I did was drop the clutch for a touch of fun and smoke show 1st 2nd and 3rd.

    And a GTR isn't the quickest skyline out. Yes, absolutely great in a 1/4mile run. Excellent that way, not so nimble in the corners, with an added weight of over 200KG over the front wheels, they tend to understeer. Rolling run, they get annihilated by cars of similar, and even less power.

    And I never claimed to be the fastest. What I first commented on (And you can even go back and have a look if you don't beleive me) is the fact someone claimed to be able to outlaunch a WRX in a RWD.

    My mates 8second R33 gets out launched by a friends 10second GTR, BUT the GTS-t makes it all up the moment it's nearing the top of 1st gear (over 100km/h)
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    Since it's not my car, no I don't have a time slip on it.
    Can quite possibly find the one from when it ran a 10.8 on a completely standard internalled motor (Stock cams as well)

    As for mine, it's never hit the full strip (Goes there soon as my engine management side is sorted out) but pitted against 13.5 - 14.0 second cars, it's coming down to who launches the best. Most of the time we're bailing out at around 130km/h, so not a full 1/4 run, but the whole way there, door to door)
    And it takes around 13.5 seconds (Timed) from a stand still to hit 170km/h... Which is around the speed a mid 13 car should hit, over the standing 1/4.
    As soon as we hit the strip, I'll post back in here.
    And that's with a torque hole at top end too... (Drops 20KW where it should make 20more then it was)

    Might have a dig around, see if I can find the video of my mates car actually running the 10.8 second 1/4 on stock internalled motor.

    Edit:

    I can't open vids on this computer, but in one of these there SHOULD be his 10.8 pass on stock internalled motor.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh_B04afEyY


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlGwLKhD3Zk


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96HYzLgVTIw


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayPJi8VQ8Ms


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlGwLKhD3Zk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QeUifTOu5Y

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnppPlVw-sI

    If it's not, tell me, I'll ask him for a copy of it direct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBS206 View Post
    Since it's not my car, no I don't have a time slip on it.
    Can quite possibly find the one from when it ran a 10.8 on a completely standard internalled motor (Stock cams as well)

    As for mine, it's never hit the full strip (Goes there soon as my engine management side is sorted out) but pitted against 13.5 - 14.0 second cars, it's coming down to who launches the best. Most of the time we're bailing out at around 130km/h, so not a full 1/4 run, but the whole way there, door to door)
    And it takes around 13.5 seconds (Timed) from a stand still to hit 170km/h... Which is around the speed a mid 13 car should hit, over the standing 1/4.
    As soon as we hit the strip, I'll post back in here.
    And that's with a torque hole at top end too... (Drops 20KW where it should make 20more then it was)

    Might have a dig around, see if I can find the video of my mates car actually running the 10.8 second 1/4 on stock internalled motor.

    Edit:

    I can't open vids on this computer, but in one of these there SHOULD be his 10.8 pass on stock internalled motor.


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sh_B04afEyY


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlGwLKhD3Zk


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=96HYzLgVTIw


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayPJi8VQ8Ms


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlGwLKhD3Zk

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QeUifTOu5Y

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnppPlVw-sI

    If it's not, tell me, I'll ask him for a copy of it direct.
    lol, so your big noting your car that has never run down the 1/4. Oh please.

    Get back into your POS and drive back to whatever kambrook forum you come from.

    Oh, on a sidenote, where did it run a 10.8? How often has it been run since?
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    Ran the 10.8 at WSID.

    Motor has been pulled out, and fully rebuilt.
    One of those links above I think may actually show the dyno run of the new motor (757RWHP)

    Unsure how many times it came back after the 10.8, but it was there a bit.

    As for me comparing my car to a commodore, and it's never hit the strip, what about your guys cars comparing theres to a WRX etc, and they've never ran the strip?

    And don't go insulting on peoples choices in cars, I haven't called a Commodore crap. I quite liked them, I had one, I was going to do it up, but how much it was going to cost, it was cheaper to head into an import, and end up faster for the same $$$

    I only wondered back in here as I'm looking at selling my ute and picking up another commo as a daily driver, and had a look in here, and couldn't beleive people thought they could out launch a WRX...
    Then look, try and say something against a commodore, your shot down in flames. You guys need to take your blinkers off, and go out and jump in a few nice imports and give them a flogging. You might come to realise your big V8s and V6 aren't the be all and end all (And no, I'm not saying my Skyline is either) but seriously, I'd rather be able to sport around in a 400HP car, that returns stock fuel consumption when not being killed.
    I'd love to see a cammed 355 etc do that.

    And as a note, I haven't had a single commodore that I've come across, manage to get infront of me yet.

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    lol^^^^^ i can find a heap of quick cars from u tube and say there my mates lol and if raced a heap of camed ls1's and hav beaten them with your i think it will run a 13.5 skyline i got something to tell ya mate they werent race you

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    Quote Originally Posted by SICK SS View Post
    lol^^^^^ i can find a heap of quick cars from u tube and say there my mates lol and if raced a heap of camed ls1's and hav beaten them with your i think it will run a 13.5 skyline i got something to tell ya mate they werent race you
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    MBS206 theres no point in arguing as its just going to go around in circles.
    Youve had your say and i commend ur maturity and keeping your cool
    Why do u guys flame jap cars anyway?
    A 10 second skyline is a quick car, same as a 10 second falcon or commodore
    Now my personal belief is a a stock auto wrx no matter the year will cane a stock auto/manual vn/vp v6-v8 over the 1/4.
    if u disagree im sorry

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    Geez, let this thread die......

    Skylines and WRX's and LS1's are all about the same, in stock form - they all run low to mid 14's 0-400m (stock VN Commodores are much slower, launch smaunch). All of them can be tweaked to make plenty of power and go much faster - how much faster is entirely up to the amount of money thrown at them. There are plenty of WRX's running 10's, and heaps of Skylines and Commodores that do the same.

    Now kiss and make up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by al99 View Post
    MBS206 theres no point in arguing as its just going to go around in circles.
    Youve had your say and i commend ur maturity and keeping your cool
    Why do u guys flame jap cars anyway?
    A 10 second skyline is a quick car, same as a 10 second falcon or commodore
    Now my personal belief is a a stock auto wrx no matter the year will cane a stock auto/manual vn/vp v6-v8 over the 1/4.
    if u disagree im sorry
    This is the only argument I was debating, but seeing as a few people don't like sticking on topic I see it's useless, plus I realise a WRX, even with a great take off, might not beat the VN/VP down the quarter it would get a better take off though. I am talking about pre-bug eye shape WRX's too, like up to '99 etc.

    I'm an apprentice at a Subaru dealer, and I'm pretty convinced they're a solid car overall, not perfect - but a nice all rounder. I can also say I have no brand bias as I've loved Holden's from day 1. But Holden can't get absolutely everything right and perfect and flawless.

    I think this topic has arisen a few times around these forums and it's getting pretty tired seeing it's the same arguments over and over. I agree about people taking off their blinkers and opening their eyes sometimes.

    Haha, I just realised how off topic this thread got!!! Oh well, it's all fun.

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    Ok i was at the opinion a auto wrx would do 14's or maybe 15's down the 1/4.
    Wouldnt a vn/vp v6 be in the 16 second bracket? and at best 15 seconds for a v8? I havent driven a auto wrx but i assume with a auto u hold the brake and rev to 3000rpm and away u go?
    If in wrong then i apoligise

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    I'm not sure who would win down th 1/4 but I was saying that a WRX would more than likely have a much better take off compared to a VN/VP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MBS206 View Post
    Ran the 10.8 at WSID.

    Motor has been pulled out, and fully rebuilt.
    One of those links above I think may actually show the dyno run of the new motor (757RWHP)

    Unsure how many times it came back after the 10.8, but it was there a bit.

    As for me comparing my car to a commodore, and it's never hit the strip, what about your guys cars comparing theres to a WRX etc, and they've never ran the strip?

    And don't go insulting on peoples choices in cars, I haven't called a Commodore crap. I quite liked them, I had one, I was going to do it up, but how much it was going to cost, it was cheaper to head into an import, and end up faster for the same $$$

    I only wondered back in here as I'm looking at selling my ute and picking up another commo as a daily driver, and had a look in here, and couldn't beleive people thought they could out launch a WRX...
    Then look, try and say something against a commodore, your shot down in flames. You guys need to take your blinkers off, and go out and jump in a few nice imports and give them a flogging. You might come to realise your big V8s and V6 aren't the be all and end all (And no, I'm not saying my Skyline is either) but seriously, I'd rather be able to sport around in a 400HP car, that returns stock fuel consumption when not being killed.
    I'd love to see a cammed 355 etc do that.

    And as a note, I haven't had a single commodore that I've come across, manage to get infront of me yet.
    So i presume the skyline is caged then?

    Anyways, my SS is cammed, putting out 340 rwkw. I'd love to see an NA skyline put that out with the amount of money i have spent.

    As for taking blinkers off, i have driven everything from an Evo 9 to an STi wrx to a 545i 2006 BMW, they arent my style of car, however, that being said, most owners of these cars do not gloat about beating an NA stock commodore.

    As for not being beaten by a commodore, have you stopped to think these people may value their licence and not race ont he street like a tool? I quite often get idiots in jap **** trying to race me off the lights while i sit their and idle off happily only to have them at the next set of lights tell me how great they are. Its people like this and yourself that give imports a bad name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by al99 View Post
    Ok i was at the opinion a auto wrx would do 14's or maybe 15's down the 1/4.
    Wouldnt a vn/vp v6 be in the 16 second bracket? and at best 15 seconds for a v8? I havent driven a auto wrx but i assume with a auto u hold the brake and rev to 3000rpm and away u go?
    If in wrong then i apoligise
    The argument was never who would do the quarter mile quickest. For the record, a VN V6 does a 15.6 second quarter mile from the factory, 8.0 seconds 0-100 factory stats and many have done quicker than that, even now in stock form.

    The argument was about launch, and I still say a VN V6 will take a WRX to probably 30. 92% of max torque from just 1200rpm is an incredible figure, and even without AWD grip, a VN launches pretty hard off the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VL Berlina 5speed View Post
    ill give yah a little tip, this topic (thread) has been posted up in another sites fourm and is being watched and commented on by there members
    bahahahaha lmao well ask them if they know of anyone who will launch a standard wrx @ 7000rpm?

    pm me the link I'm interested in watching the wrx's forum watching our forum.
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    wrx wuld beat a vn on takeoff anyday of the week,down the stretch tho who knows its anyones guess.from some light drags ive seen tho a midly worked ss wuld **** on a mildly worked skyline.holden has really caught up with the ricers big time in the last ten years.overall tho all the machines mentioned so far are pretty close in terms of outright performance.but ive never seen any pre vt commo beat a wrexxy or skyline take off or down stretch.my 2c

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    To any ppl on that WRX forum that may be watching, if any of you live in Adelaide with a stock WRX, I will be happy to prove my point. Join the site and pm me. Or, my email is holden_vn2nv@hotmail.com (preferrably auto )

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