P plater restrictions
A P plater over took me today, i was doing bout 65-70 in a 60 zone, he went flying past in a VY SS Ute.
I know i was speeding took, but thats not the issue. I thought they werent meant to drive V8s? unless its thier families sole vehicle?!?!?! sureley the look of this car this family would have some cash, and im sure they have more than one vehicle, and if so and he crashed and wrote it or another car off wouldnt thye investigate and find out he shouldnt have been driving it and would it void his insurance as they might also have a perfectly good P plate friendly vehicle at home?!??!?!?!?!
Just a thought......
the law only affects p platers after a certain date when the law was brought in...... so if u scraped in before that date u can drive watever u want
but even if it was a p plate frendly car he would probably have done the exact same thing
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Work ute perhaps? Sound like you're envious, P plater driving hot SS wouldn't make you envious huh...Originally Posted by Secki
Why even worry about it? If he's flouting the rules he'll get caught eventually.
I believe the whole problem with P-platers isn't thier driving habits alone...we all drove like idiots when we started out...the problem is the standard of cars now available...power restrictions were inevitable.
Back in 1982 when got my learners, I had two cars...a 1953 Austin A30 (wow...power machine...) and a 1971 Mazda Capella. that thing wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding. Most other guys had either old Corollas or maybe some with better jobs had things like EH's and HR's, maybe a Torana 6 cylinder. However, even when worked, these things never had anything like the go of a cheap old ratty VN V6 Commodore that a young guy would start out with today. I would venture a guess that even a later model second hand car like a VR, VS, or maybe VT Commodore...quite affordable for a first car...in V6 form is quicker accelerating than the V8's...even 351's...that we aspired to drive 25 years ago.
If the young guy of today has a bit of dough to flash around, with a decent job, and he can afford an SS of a recent vintage, he probably doesn't realise he is driving something which, if chucked through a time warp to just 25 or 30 years ago, would p1ss all over a Ferrari 308-GTB or 911 Porsche of that era.
As I said...power restrictions were, unfortunately, inevitable...but will be very hard to enforce.
The Skaife Fan Man.
The thing is...
I've been pulled over many times and not once has a cop asked me to pop the bonnet... my car runs a 2.5 inch exhaust and sounds grunty, compared to a stocko.... I don't have any engine mods apart from a CAI.... yet I could be running a Gen 3 under the hood and they wouldn't know.
Same goes for all the rich kids driving BMW and Audi's, I have a chick friend who was pulled over going 30 kms over the speed limit in her dad's V10 (i think) Audi (maybe v8) and the copper acted as if it was a six cylinder. How do they enforce it... if they don't even bother to check under the bonnet.
If You're Not Touching The Walls, You're Not Driving Hard Enough.
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P plater should be restricted to 2.4 L. its 12 months on p's right, so in that 12 months they learn how to be responsible and not put innocent people at risk. Oh and if a another 17/18 year old tells me once more that they can drive...with all the experience under the sun.... then
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It's three years on Ps in Victoria.
If You're Not Touching The Walls, You're Not Driving Hard Enough.
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In S.A. its till your 19 or 2 years, which evers longer. Well it used to be anyways!
The Only 6sp VZ Wagon
that would never happen and wouldnt be practical, what about all the people that cant afford a car and has to drive their parents car etc, also alot of these little 4cyl powered cars are now getting very quick, anyone driven a mazda 6?
Not jealous i had an SS been there done that......... i just cant see how it can really be enforced......... and no it definatley wasnt a work ute.. i elowered chromies.....Work ute perhaps? Sound like you're envious, P plater driving hot SS wouldn't make you envious huh...
2.0Litres I've seen quicker, from the factory, then a 5.7L V8 SS...
Engine displacement isn't the problem. Nor is out right power.
It's how fast a car can actually accelerate.
Think about it, a Big V8 truck, can't accelerate at all, but pulls over 600HP, yet a small car, light weight, like a mini say, with short gearbox, can get up and fly, with only 50-60KW at the wheels.
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most cops would need mechanical training to be able to enforce the new laws think bout it can a normal cop tell if a bog stock bodied vr commo with a 4.2ltr v6 stroker under the hood? honestly i prob couldnt~ and i agree with previous statments i had a 5ltr v8 wb statesman on my pz that would be lucky to beat a light vl with a manual behind it~
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A 6ltr v8 ls2 clubsport with a "p plater" driving hits a brick wall at 130km/h, he/she die on impact,
A stock nissan pulsar with a whopping 2ltr straight 4 with a "p plater" driving also hits a brick wall at 130km/h, he/she also dies on impact
a "p plater" who has had advanced driver training driving either car avoids the accident because they have the training and skill to avoid the F%#N brick wall!!!!
It doesnt matter wat car it is or how powerful it is if the driver has not been taught the extra skills one doesnt learn from their normal lessons (reverse parking and hill starts etc) they will run into drama~ people dont get taught what to do when their car starts fish tailing in the wet..........
Better education not restrictions! lol done ranting
6ltr v8 ls2 clubby hits 130kmh in a carpark
nissan ****heap lucky to hit 130kmh on freeway
That is the difference.
i donno, my old girl had an LJ 308 when she was 17 (my uncle also had one) dad had a XAGT coupe(351) bought it for 4500 when he was 17 and their mates all had v8's, my step dad used to go on about him and his mates putting nos into almost anything and dragging down a dirt road that would only just fit 2 cars, and my mates dad used to get around in an 11sec rx3. basicially it sound like you older bunch got the best of it.
at the same time though today we can get finance for really anything we want.
This is the answer...
a "p plater" who has had advanced driver training driving either car avoids the accident because they have the training and skill to avoid the F%#N brick wall!!!!
Better education not restrictions! lol done ranting
yeah yeah yeah yet another "evil p platers" thread. I am glad to see that although the first post was written in that vain, it turned into a "how can we help them" thing.
TBH its not even an education thing. If everyone drove always the same way they drove during their license test, then there would be almost NO deaths on the road.
Better driver education would be great, but parents need to take responsibility here and engrain into their children right from the start that when driving you are in control of a lethal weapon, and you need to excercise self control and use it responsibly. My parents did and anyone who knows me will be able to tell you i'll never drive in a manner that could endanger myself or anyone else, and I will NOT tolerate anyone who does! what a surprise... I'm a P plater.
My parents also LED BY EXAMPLE! This does NOT happen enough these days, because driver training was non-existant when they learned to drive, so they go through their whole lives not indicating, speeding up to get through the amber light, going 10 k's over the limit at all times, and not being courteous on the road. the kids SEE the way the parents drive, even from a very young age, and will replicate that behaviour no matter how many times other people, teachers, tv ads, government programs etc say it is BAD.
The PARENTS are the number one influencing factor... its as simple as that. If you RESPECT the lethal weapon you are in control of, you'll drive responsibly and safely. Better education including defensive driving would help a bit, but without the right attitude from the beginning, it is POINTLESS
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