Whats a line lockie

[The Darkness]

i havnr heard of this before and someone was talking about them at work today. i have a idea what it mite be

[weedo_86]

a line locker? clamps the brake lines im pretty sure dont quote me but its easier to keep the rear wheels spinning

[VRSS]

yeah it cuts off the brake fluid to the rear brakes so you can use full brakes and it will just be the fronts.

[DANNY8]

Or just go to Repco and they have a pair of brake line crimpers for under $10...made of plastic, and they're yellow, they are designed to clamp the rubber hose on brake lines while u work on them. Looks like a pair of side cutters, but the edges which make contact with the hose are rounded and the handles have a locking mechanism...so u can put them on, and lock them on.

If ya get a pair of them, get under ur car and chuck them on the rubber brake line hose whch goes from the body to the diff. Make sure u haven't got the hand brake on, or anyone has their foot on the brake. Basically if the brakes are engaged when they are put on, they won't disengage properly when u take ur foot off the brakes, or take the handbrake off....even tho the handbrake is mechanical if its on the brakes are engaged which still would sort of suck a bit of fluid through, then it can't go back out when the hand brake s released coz the crimpers are on.

So put simply....buy one of these tools, take the hand brake off and make sure no one has their foot on the brake pedal, get under the back and close the jaws of this tool onto the rear rubber brake line, then put the locking mechanism into place.....and away u go....put ur foot down as hard as u want coz u wont have any back brakes!!

[VRSS]

do that untill the rubber line gets damaged and cracks then you dont have brakes at all, woo no more getting dirty under the back of the car!
haha just work your engine so you have enough power to do burnouts without brakes

[SICK SS]

were i come from a line locky was siting in the one spot with brakes on and wheel spin no clamping involved

[Sphinx]

that's what we used to call line lockers too... having enough horsepower to spin the wheels!!

[shaggerz]

that's what we used to call line lockers too... having enough horsepower to spin the wheels!!

That term is misleading. A line locker is, as described above, a device that locks the brake lines to the rear so you can do burnouts without stuffing your brakes.

Presumably people started calling burnouts "line lockies" because its what you used a line locker for.

[VT-565]

I have a few things to say (as always)
1. Dont get under your car with the handbrake off unless you have chocked your wheels and the car is on level ground. Otherwise, you'll be sh*tting in a bag for the rest of your life.
2. I have had a fair bit of experience with 'line lockers' and they are a half arsed way of doing it. I once came unstuck when the clamps i were using werent tight enough and some fluid was able to bleed through. Thats like having the handbrake on while 'going silly'. I honestly beleive in the use of a 'bias' valve, used on race cars to adjust brake bias, you can mount this on your master cylinder and basically shut the back brakes off when you feel the need. Tilton is one brand that springs to mind. much more positive, cleaner and easier too!
Finally, you have to have enough power too, other wise it aint no fun.

[The Darkness]

ohk. thats what i thought. i wasnt talking about the actual tool o know what they are but i guess i did know but didnt think rite lol.

[defa]

what has the hand brake got to do with your rear barakes. don't BW diff's and salisbury diff's have a seperate brake drum on each side for the hand brake.
a line locker like you buy off ebay is a solenoid that goes on your back brake lines. closing the pressure off. never used or seen one. so i know nothing else about the.

[DANNY8]

We've used the line crimpers ****loads of times, and still no sign of the rubber hose breaking.....if it breaks well it's only a 5 min job to replace.

The reason u need the handbrake off is coz when it's on the brakes are engaged, altho the hand brake is a mechanical device which doesn't use brake fluid, it will still pull brake fluid through when u put it on. The brake fluid aint pushing through like it normally would, it's getting pulled through when u put the hand brake on....if it didn't then you'd have air pockets which aint good. So if u have the hand brake on while putting the clamps on, when u go to take the hand brake off the fluid can't go back (coz the clamps are on) so the brakes stay on. We've done it once which is why we know not to put the hand brake on anymore. But yeah it's basically like driving round with ur hand brake on....they even started smoking b4 we realised the stuff-up we made.

Another option is to buy a small tap, one which will be ok for the brake fluid, and install it under the car somewhere along the metal brake line. That would make it easier to put it on or off, but u just gotta make sure the tap is in there good, coz if it leaks, well that's obviously bad. The B&M one of ebay is just like a tap, but instead of the handle to turn it on or off it has a solenoid so it's electric...i think anyways, haven't used a proper one b4 lol

Of course if u do any of the above methods, if u have a crash ur insurance will prolly be void...but with the crimpers u can remove them b4 anyone see's anything

We love doin skids so that's y we use them a lot.....they make doin skids a whole lot easier if u have an underpowered motor...take a stocko ol' 202 for example....most of them will be able to pop a skid, but with no back brakes it makes it a hell of a lot easier...chuck ya foot on the brake as much as ya want, then hit the go pedal and away u go, don't have to worry bout using too much brake.

[VT-565]

The reason u need the handbrake off is coz when it's on the brakes are engaged, altho the hand brake is a mechanical device which doesn't use brake fluid, it will still pull brake fluid through when u put it on. The brake fluid aint pushing through like it normally would, it's getting pulled through when u put the hand brake on....if it didn't then you'd have air pockets which aint good. So if u have the hand brake on while putting the clamps on, when u go to take the hand brake off the fluid can't go back (coz the clamps are on) so the brakes stay on.

Right and wrong at the same time.
For DRUM brake rear ends, this information is correct. However, for DISC brake rears, it does not matter an ounce of difference whether the handbrake is on or off.

[STEALTHY™]

Haha, its funny hearing people who think a line locker is a burnout. My people never used that tern, we just call them stand stills.

Anyway, i have a line locker fitted to my car, and it was the best thing i ever did. Why bother getting under the car every time you want to clamp the brakes, when i just flick the switch with no effort neccasary.


Also just for info, they are illegal unless fitted within a certain distance of the master cylinder, i think its like 3 inches or something.


Either way, all i know is 2 years running, i havn't even had to change rear brake pads, and the discs have no wear on them at all.

[stocky]

Haha, its funny hearing people who think a line locker is a burnout. My people never used that tern, we just call them stand stills.

Anyway, i have a line locker fitted to my car, and it was the best thing i ever did. Why bother getting under the car every time you want to clamp the brakes, when i just flick the switch with no effort neccasary.


Also just for info, they are illegal unless fitted within a certain distance of the master cylinder, i think its like 3 inches or something.


Either way, all i know is 2 years running, i havn't even had to change rear brake pads, and the discs have no wear on them at all.

how did it affect day to day driving?

[STEALTHY™]

Its off during day to day driving, so i don't even know i have it.


I did once leave it on after a few 'fun' circles, and i could tell the braking was reduced, but not nearly enough to have me worried. I ended up changing the switch to a lighted one, so i know when it is on now, as it was just a rocker switch before.

[pr0n]

but how many times have you had to change the front pads and disks?

[STEALTHY™]

Pads once, and havn't changed the discs. All 4 discs were new tho, just after i had the line lockers installed, cause i wanted slotted discs.

[BeNoS]

if u hav a line locker and r doing the burnout u wont wear out ur front brakes at all cause u aint moving at all unless u let ur foot off the brake

[STEALTHY™]

This Video should show you what i mean, and how i drive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjUlteZUpxU



Line lockers are good for doing that, as you are on and off the brakes.
I didn't think people still did standstills, unless there down with overheating aswell.

[VT-565]

This Video should show you what i mean, and how i drive.
Line lockers are good for doing that, as you are on and off the brakes.
I didn't think people still did standstills, unless there down with overheating aswell.

Are those burnouts in 1st or 2nd gear? My VT V6 used to do 2nd gear

[STEALTHY™]

Only first. I don't trust this gearbox enough to go for 2nd. When i get the new one (hopefully Tremek) i'll make some vids in 2nd, and maybe even 3rd gear.

[DANNY8]

lol I should of watermarked that vid b4 I gave it to u haha, it seems to be getting around.

What sort of electronic line locker do u have Stelthy, and where bouts do ya get them from and how much? I only know of the B&M ones which disengage after about a minute I think. So if it's 3" from the master cylinder it's totally legal? Yeah I agree it sux getting under the car to crimp the lines everytime ya wanna do some skids....but my little bro does it so it don't bother me haha.

EcotecManiac: I've never had any car with disk rear end so I wouldn't know haha

EDIT: And about the day to day driving....after u brake for a few corners u don't even realise u have no back brakes....ya just brake a little earlier and be more careful.....we drove around for a whole day with no back brakes. Of course it's dangerous with no back brakes and I guess pretty stupid to, especially if u drive around without them, but here in Pirie we don't have bumper to bumper traffic....the quietest day in the city would be the busiest day of the year here. But yeah, after a while ya don't even realise, it doesn't effect ur braking heaps, noticable to start with but nothing major.

[STEALTHY™]

Mine is Hurse, and cost $280 from outlaws


the B&M kit doesn't come with everything, it only has a solenoid. The hurse one comes with all the fittings and a switch (although a crap switch)



From what i've been told, 'close' to the master cylinder is legal, i said i think its 3in, it could be less, but there is a way to do it legally. You might have to ring up TSA anonyomously



Edit, forgot to say, the B&M one without any extra's was about $150 something. But i'd rather pay more than have to chase up the right connection etc

[VLturbs87]

Yeah theres a way It's legal!