Vy/vz front cut on vx commodore?

[aiKzo6]

Im turning 18 this year, so i hope to get my first car next year. Ive been looking around for a vy/vz, but they definately arent cheap, at $15k~>

Now, theres a few VXs around going for about 10k~. Would it be possibly to get a VX and plug a vy/vz halfcut on the front assuming i manage to find one?

I don't know a hell lot about my situation, so any help would be appreciated.

Also, has anyone on the forums had any halfcut mods done to their car?

Cheers

[1991_Vn2nV]

Yeah it would most definitely be possible mate. I looked at a VZ front end on my VN but couldnt really afford the front end of a VZ at the time. You should find the differences are minimal. I know its different, but to fit a VS front end on my car just involved some modifications with the trusty old grinder to the radiator support to fit the guards and the same with one of the headlight brackets on either side. The rest was pretty much bolt on. As with VN to VS, the VT to VZ are all pretty similar.

[aiKzo6]

Yeah it would most definitely be possible mate. I looked at a VZ front end on my VN but couldnt really afford the front end of a VZ at the time. You should find the differences are minimal. I know its different, but to fit a VS front end on my car just involved some modifications with the trusty old grinder to the radiator support to fit the guards and the same with one of the headlight brackets on either side. The rest was pretty much bolt on. As with VN to VS, the VT to VZ are all pretty similar.

Sweet..sounds like i might go ahead and try it if i cna get me money then.
If i work approximately one year straight on my casual pay..ill have it in no time

Ill either get a vx or a vt and start from that..and ill grab a front cut later on.
Just fished out an old Street Commos mag. Its got a Monaro with a VY front cut..
Looks smooth.

Cheers mate

[1991_Vn2nV]

Well unless im mistaken, VT-VZ is much the same. I think doors and sill panel are same parts = middle section of the car is no different.

Under the panels is the same so bonnet should fit perfect, at most there would be a gap to the firewall cover... So just use a VZ one.

Guards would line up perfect with the doors and of course then the bonnet... mounting spots would all be the same. Re-enforcement bar would have to be changed and should be direct bolt on. The only issue may be in the mounting of the headlights... As the headlights are a different shape and encorporate the indicators differently the screws/bolts may have different mounts and brackets. But thats easy fixed and you can even just check by looking at a VZ's lights.

Then front bar will definitely just bolt up.

It has been done several times and it does look very nice so all the best and post up some pics when you eventually do it

Hakhawk linked me to a VU ute with the VY front end but the guy bought it as is so doesnt know how it was done... Heres a link VU (vy front conversion)

[aiKzo6]

Sweet mate. Thanks for all the help. It's not gonna happen anytime soon, as i just dont have the money to get it started. Once i finish this year (year 12), i mgiht be able to take out a loan and buy a car. My apprenticeship will start mid next year, so ill be earning money to slowly pay it back

THanks again mate
aikz

[Troy711]

hit me up in a week... might have some VZ front gaurds for you

[aiKzo6]

hit me up in a week... might have some VZ front gaurds for you

Thanks for the offer mate, but 3 main problems stand in my way.



#1: I don't have a car yet.
#2: Nor do i have money.
#3: No license = no point in buying car parts

Thanks again though
Regards
aikz

[1vngal]

I was drawn to the point you made in your first post about how you wanted a VY - VZ but couldn't afford one, hence the idea to put the front end from a VY on to a VX or similar.

But wouldn't the overall cost of doing this end up more than just going and buying a VY?

It is most certainly possible, it's been done on a VN as well. And it does look surprisingly good.

[1991_Vn2nV]

I was drawn to the point you made in your first post about how you wanted a VY - VZ but couldn't afford one, hence the idea to put the front end from a VY on to a VX or similar.

But wouldn't the overall cost of doing this end up more than just going and buying a VY?

It is most certainly possible, it's been done on a VN as well. And it does look surprisingly good.

No it would be alot cheaper. It only costs what the front end would cost and paint if needed... if its white the whites are the same between models so wouldnt require painting.

But it would still have a VT/VX rear end which he may prefer, plus its something different.

[davey g-force]

He said a VY will cost ~$15K whereas a VX is ~$10K. Surely the conversion would have to cost more than $5K! Parts, labour, paint etc.

And with the white paint, you'd still be able to tell the difference if it's from two different cars. The paint's age and how it's been looked after are major factors. ...Unless it doesn't bother him if it looks slightly dodgy?...

IMO, I'd just save a little more and get a VY/VZ. Even if not for the money, just for the F.A.F. (fu(k around factor)...

[1vngal]

He said a VY will cost ~$15K whereas a VX is ~$10K. Surely the conversion would have to cost more than $5K! Parts, labour, paint etc.

And with the white paint, you'd still be able to tell the difference if it's from two different cars. The paint's age and how it's been looked after are major factors. ...Unless it doesn't bother him if it looks slightly dodgy?...

IMO, I'd just save a little more and get a VY/VZ. Even if not for the money, just for the F.A.F. (fu(k around factor)...

Thats what I was thinking. And also, what are the chances of getting a half cut, or front end bits that are the same colour as the VX he bought?

I still think it would end up costing more.

[The Stig]

I just figure if you can work 12 months straight on your casual wage and get a VT/VX in no time...

why not just work 18 months straight on your casual wage and get an actual VY instead of an older, cheaper car that has more chance of having more problems with it...


an chances are that in 12 months when you have saved your VT/VX money, it is likely that VY/VZ will have dropped even more in price and you could afford that anyway.

I figure instead of looking now and saying "I cant afford that" save your money and at the end of your 12 months see what you can afford then.....

[1991_Vn2nV]

He said a VY will cost ~$15K whereas a VX is ~$10K. Surely the conversion would have to cost more than $5K! Parts, labour, paint etc.

And with the white paint, you'd still be able to tell the difference if it's from two different cars. The paint's age and how it's been looked after are major factors. ...Unless it doesn't bother him if it looks slightly dodgy?...

IMO, I'd just save a little more and get a VY/VZ. Even if not for the money, just for the F.A.F. (fu(k around factor)...

What labour? Its mostly bolt on. He can do it himself.

A front half cut would cost maybe $800-$1000 max.

The difference in colour wouldnt be that noticeable on cars of such similar age unless ones been left in the sun all its life. Slightly noticeable maybe, but even so get it painted for $900 (guards, bonnet, front bar) and you're looking at $1700-$1900 instead of $5k.

I was quoted 2 grand from Adelaide Rides including labour and paint as I didnt have the equipment to do it myself and it involves alot of modification to fit a VZ front on a VN... Not basically bolt on like a VZ to a VT.

It would be more for a custom factor than a it looks like a VZ factor.. As it will still have a VX rear. Its nice to have something different.

[Low_VX_Taxi]

What labour? Its mostly bolt on. He can do it himself.

A front half cut would cost maybe $800-$1000 max.

The difference in colour wouldnt be that noticeable on cars of such similar age unless ones been left in the sun all its life. Slightly noticeable maybe, but even so get it painted for $900 (guards, bonnet, front bar) and you're looking at $1700-$1900 instead of $5k.

I was quoted 2 grand from Adelaide Rides including labour and paint as I didnt have the equipment to do it myself and it involves alot of modification to fit a VZ front on a VN... Not basically bolt on like a VZ to a VT.

It would be more for a custom factor than a it looks like a VZ factor.. As it will still have a VX rear. Its nice to have something different.

I agree wit tha custom factor, PLUS I prefer the Vx/Vt rear ends over the Vy/Vz rear (the front ov both Vy/Vz look real mean tho)

[NVE_069]

well the time he has said he will save up, vy' will be down as i c them now for around 13k mark,

when i had my acco i got all the panels myself to fix it, i had my eye on a vy ss front end for 700 that was including the 2 front doors with all elec in it. but i would have need the radiator support bar still so i didnt bother with it. kinda wish i did tho.

oh troy711 if u sell them gards let us know how much and if u do would u post at my cost

[aiKzo6]

Yeah i had a think about the cost factor. I've heard that ex-govt VYs go really cheap at auctions, so i could always pick one up i guess. A lot of the modification was based on the idea of a custom car/body. How often do you see a VT/VX with a vY/VZ front?
Hopefully by the time ive saved enough money, ill be able to pick up a nice VX for a good price, and from there, i can figure out what's worth doing to the front end. Either way, ill be focusing on buying a car first, and then modifications can come later.
Anyone know approximately how much vxs go for at auctions? Would there be any ex-govt vxs?
Cheers

[Low_VX_Taxi]

Vxs in general are going for bout 8-9 thousand.... im doubtful there would be any at auctions (govt and fleet n e way)

[aiKzo6]

Vxs in general are going for bout 8-9 thousand.... im doubtful there would be any at auctions (govt and fleet n e way)

Wow..thats actually a pretty good price. I'm guessing that just pays for stockstandard commo with ~150k?
Think its reasonable for a first car? 3.8L v6...?
Cheers

[1991_Vn2nV]

Yeah VX's are a top car. My dad has a VT and my uncle and other grandfathers have VX's and the VX's are like a totally different car. Much nicer package than the VT stock for stock.

My reccomendation though, is to not stop at Exec. Get atleast a berlina because you'll make the most of the options and theres not that bigger difference in price.

[aiKzo6]

Yeah VX's are a top car. My dad has a VT and my uncle and other grandfathers have VX's and the VX's are like a totally different car. Much nicer package than the VT stock for stock.

My reccomendation though, is to not stop at Exec. Get atleast a berlina because you'll make the most of the options and theres not that bigger difference in price.

Sweet. Sounds like ill be going for a VX then. I was thinking that they were around 10-15k, which is probably going to be too much, but 8-9 sounds great. Hopefully im earning enough once i start my apprenticeship next year and working at the same time, so ill be able to join the commodore owners club
Thanks

[Low_VX_Taxi]

Sweet. Sounds like ill be going for a VX then. I was thinking that they were around 10-15k, which is probably going to be too much, but 8-9 sounds great. Hopefully im earning enough once i start my apprenticeship next year and working at the same time, so ill be able to join the commodore owners club
Thanks

As said look for a berlina or a fully optioned Exec (like my HBD). Hunt around cause they do go cheap but its best find one with low kms (looks at 160000kms on my car) . hope ya find that special ~first car~

[1991_Vn2nV]

As said look for a berlina or a fully optioned Exec (like my HBD). Hunt around cause they do go cheap but its best find one with low kms (looks at 160000kms on my car) . hope ya find that special ~first car~

Off topic but did you buy yours brand new? (wondering as to price difference from new between an optioned exec and a berlina/calais)

[aiKzo6]

As said look for a berlina or a fully optioned Exec (like my HBD). Hunt around cause they do go cheap but its best find one with low kms (looks at 160000kms on my car) . hope ya find that special ~first car~

Okay mate. I'll see how it goes. Thanks again everyone.

[aiKzo6]

Oh..also..whereabouts can i find a vx for 8-9k? I had a quick look on carsales, and lowest is 11k. Would i have to start scouting the auctions for a cheap buy? Or are there other places around the area that sell cheap?

Cheers

[1991_Vn2nV]

Private sales through the paper? Keeping an eye out.

Auctions are good, Pickles auctions have stolen and recovered, damaged vehicles. A vehicle with slight front end damage would be perfect for your cause.