New ride height law?

[AngryVN]

Ok so a guy i know told me the other day, that his driving instructor told him that the ride height law has been changed to 95mm from the lowest point. Due to the new VE cop cars being lower than 100mm. Does anyone know if this is true?

[1991_Vn2nV]

No its not true, the ADR's have not been changed and would never be changed just for one model car.

Police cars have been illegally low in South Australia for many years now. They're Police cars though so it is not an issue (even if it was who would defect them?).

[AttaBoy]

They should defect themselves.......

[dufus]

They should defect themselves.......

Like that's going to happen

[nicko]

i called the vehicle standard place today. they do not go by the 100mm rule here in SA, its measured by the eyebrow height. on my VT the lowest i can go is;

front 357mm from centre of mag to start of gaurd

rear 334mm from centre of mag to start of gaurd

that means i can lower mine 18mm on the front and 25mm on the rear.

[AngryVN]

did'nt imagine it would be true, if only it were dunno why his driving instructor said that. anyway. LOL at AttaBoy

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

I believe everything told to me by a guy that I know, doesn't everybody?

[1991_Vn2nV]

i called the vehicle standard place today. they do not go by the 100mm rule here in SA, its measured by the eyebrow height. on my VT the lowest i can go is;

front 357mm from centre of mag to start of gaurd

rear 334mm from centre of mag to start of gaurd

that means i can lower mine 18mm on the front and 25mm on the rear.

We do still have the 100mm law though. But on a commodore you'll never go under 100mm without first breaking the eyebrow height unless you have a dodgy exhaust or something Jap cars or cars with large bodykits are a different story though.

[andyman]

We do still have the 100mm law though. But on a commodore you'll never go under 100mm without first breaking the eyebrow height unless you have a dodgy exhaust or something

my vz with factory height/factory exhaust is the lowest point on my car, it hangs down heaps and bottoms out on some speed humps etc

[V85000i]

i think my car is about 2-3 mm too low, do they have a leniency,

[V85000i]

i got IRS so can i reverse over it with a bit of brake, that way the ass end will lift up and everything before the front wheels

[1991_Vn2nV]

No they don't have a leniency. Its up to the policeman whether he lets you off or not, and they'll measure the car with it switched off (and generally you out of the car).

[AngryVN]

i think my car is about 2-3 mm too low, do they have a leniency,

Quite the opposite. I was talking to an guy at my local exhaust shop, he was done for his car being 103mm off the ground. which isnt illegal. How does that work? his car looks really high too. Goes to show, if they wanna nab you for something, They wont hessitate, even if your car is perfect

[VLDavo]

i got done for being to low in one of my old vls.... they get out this stick with block on the end thats 100mm and wave it under the car... if it hits anything u fail

but im sure that many expensive supercars are lower then 100mm dunno what the go would be with dealing with that is lol

[Dan355]

We do still have the 100mm law though. But on a commodore you'll never go under 100mm without first breaking the eyebrow height unless you have a dodgy exhaust or something Jap cars or cars with large bodykits are a different story though.

I passed regency with the minimal legal brow height but failed the 100mm rule. Its actually easy to do with big pipes.

[Dayvo]

No its not true, the ADR's have not been changed and would never be changed just for one model car.

Police cars have been illegally low in South Australia for many years now. They're Police cars though so it is not an issue (even if it was who would defect them?).

So how does it work if you buy an ex cop car and you get defected ¿

[1991_Vn2nV]

So how does it work if you buy an ex cop car and you get defected ¿

An ex cop car won't be illegally low. Well unless the springs have sagged.

Cop cars are generally lower at the rear cause of all the crap they carry in the boot etc.

All a cop car has is FE2 suspension... No different to an SS, SV6 etc.

[jules]

No its not true, the ADR's have not been changed and would never be changed just for one model car.

Police cars have been illegally low in South Australia for many years now. They're Police cars though so it is not an issue (even if it was who would defect them?).

actually the ADR for ride height (43/04) was recently changed.

also cop cars must be legal.

[=Calais v8=]

they do not go by the 100mm rule here in SA.

ADR stands for Australian Design Rules, so the rules apply Australia wide.

[nicko]

except south oz hasnt updated their regulations yet, so we still go by the old system. when they get around to it we will have those ADR

[1991_Vn2nV]

except south oz hasnt updated their regulations yet, so we still go by the old system. when they get around to it we will have those ADR

No we have always had that rule. Whether regulations are changed or not we have to abide by current ADR's.

SA Regulations state the following (and this is seperate to the eye height which is listed under Suspension):

Ground Clearance:

Under the Road Traffic (Vehicle Standards) Rules 1999 ground clearance of a vehicle, with at least 4 wheels, means the minimum distance to the ground from a point on the underside of the vehicle, except a point on a tyre, wheel, wheel hub, brake backing plate or flexible mudguard or mudflap of the vehicle.
A motor vehicle or combination must have a ground clearance of:
a. For any point in the width of the vehicle which is within 1 metre fore and aft of any axle - 100 millimetres;
b. For the midpoint between the two axles - 0.033 times the distance (in millimetres) between the two axles; and
c. For any other point – at least the distance that allows the vehicle or combination to pass over a peak in the road with a gradient on either side of 1:15, if the wheels of 1 axle of the vehicle or combination are on the slope on one side of the peak and the wheels of the next axle are on the slope on the other side.

[1991_Vn2nV]

actually the ADR for ride height (43/04) was recently changed.

also cop cars must be legal.

AFAIK they added supplements, they did not change the ADR. It is definitely still 100mm.

And I GUARANTEE that there are plenty of cop cars out there that are illegally low in South Australia.

[Benboy]

Don't concern yourself with what the ride height of Police vehciels might or might not be. Whilst ALL Police vehicle comply with ADR's etc (as you might expect) the fact that they MAY appear to be lower than standard is just that, ' a perception' often exascerbated by equipment carried inside the vehicles. In reality, the Govt and in particular the Police do not want you to modify your road-going vehicles in any way that diverges from what is required under ADR and in particular safety requirements. What does this mean, if your vehicle is modified in a way that draws attention from/by passing Police you will probably have your vehicle inspected and likey defected. The secret to avoiding such attention is to make sure your vehicle looks standard and that you drive it in a manner that again does not draw attention to you or vehicle. It's all pretty simple. Whilst there are heaps of accidents, hoon driving behaviour, fatalaties (particularly 16 - 24 age group) then there will continue to be a concentrated Police presence and activity. You need to remember that the authorities do not look upon road going vehicles as items of pleasure or entertainment or something to 'have fun in'. If you want a good looking vehicle that 'turns heads' then you might have to settle for a non road-going (registered) show vehicle.

[1991_Vn2nV]

How and what I wish my car to look should be concern of the Police. There are cars everywhere, I see them everyday with bumpers hanging off, half an exhaust, bald tyres etc... Cars that are completely unroadworthy. Yet Police would much rather pick on my VN than one thats got glue holding all the panels together, with 1 working tail light and rust and everywhere with no brakes and old saggy suspension. If I were driving in a manner that warranted their attention then so be it. They look at my car and often think hoon... Do you think I do burnouts on 19" 245 width tyres? Im a full time uni student, I can't afford $600 to replace my rear tyres every 6 months. Do you think I spend thousands of dollars on my car to drive it like I ****ing stole it? I dont think so. It's time they start paying attention to the TRULY unroadworthy vehicles on the road, the ones that also often have NO insurance when they ARE involved in an accident.

And the 16-25 age group is not as overpresented as everyone thinks. 1:7 crashes involve someone in that age group, considering that involves the least experienced drivers on the road in often some of the oldest or worst condition cars on the road then I don't see it as such a major problem. And not all of those 1:7 are at fault either, thats just how many accidents involve 16-25 year olds.

[STEALTHY™]

And the 16-25 age group is not as overpresented as everyone thinks. 1:7 crashes involve someone in that age group, considering that involves the least experienced drivers on the road in often some of the oldest or worst condition cars on the road then I don't see it as such a major problem. And not all of those 1:7 are at fault either, thats just how many accidents involve 16-25 year olds.

Keep in mind those statistics also include passengers and pedestrians.

A way to over represent those statistics is a case i remember a while ago of a Lady rolling her 4WD with 4 18yo's in the car. Thats an extra 4 added to those statistics, that had nothing to do with them driving at all, rather an older and supposedly more experienced driver. Gotta love misleading stats.