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13-06-2008, 06:00 PM
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petrol - hydrogen supplemented engines
watched a interesting news article this evening where a mechanic fitted a small hydrogen producing unit on a falcon. he's claiming 20%+ increase in economy. the unit used straight tap water, it then added the hydrogen gas into the intake before the TB.
claimed to have made the unit with a couple hundred dollars worth of parts avail from the local hardware store. after having read a few articles on the web this seems to be a genuine way to increase combustion efficiency, cleaner burning engine.
thoughts/comments please
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13-06-2008, 06:10 PM
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got a link to the website.
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13-06-2008, 06:33 PM
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13-06-2008, 06:36 PM
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doesn't work
there's already another thread discussing this which is still active.
the concept is good, but you simply can not produce anywhere near enough hydrogen to get any positive effects to fuel consumption.
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13-06-2008, 06:39 PM
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lol, the first link there, the guy is using distilled water! thats going to produce NO hydrogen.
the whole point is that the water has to be conductive, normal tap water will conduct a bit due to minerals in it, but distilled water will do nothing! lol
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13-06-2008, 06:56 PM
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the news article i saw is not the one listed above. the one i saw did use tap water, they did a test with the modified falcon and a standard falcon over a 100km trip. didn't catch the figures because the kids were gasbagging big time unfortunatly
they also mention a gas reffered to as HHO which is supposidly different to hydrogen. (i never paid attention in my chemistry class at school lol)
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13-06-2008, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by immortality
the news article i saw is not the one listed above. the one i saw did use tap water, they did a test with the modified falcon and a standard falcon over a 100km trip. didn't catch the figures because the kids were gasbagging big time unfortunatly
they also mention a gas reffered to as HHO which is supposidly different to hydrogen. (i never paid attention in my chemistry class at school lol)
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yes seen that on TT, but who's to say the other guy wasen't fanging it.
17L/100 on a hundred kay trip for a six???
i get 9 in my eight!!
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13-06-2008, 07:04 PM
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Quote:
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the news article i saw is not the one listed above. the one i saw did use tap water, they did a test with the modified falcon and a standard falcon over a 100km trip. didn't catch the figures because the kids were gasbagging big time unfortunatly
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the figures they claimed were 5 litres in the hydrogen car, and 21 litres in the standard car!!!
HAHAHA!!!
the video is linked to somewhere in the other thread.
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13-06-2008, 07:10 PM
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Today Tonight videos on Yahoo!7
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13-06-2008, 07:38 PM
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yes seen that on TT, but who's to say the other guy wasen't fanging it.
17L/100 on a hundred kay trip for a six???
i get 9 in my eight!!
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yes well, i get less the 10lts/100km in the V6 and thats going for it, not nanna styles
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13-06-2008, 09:57 PM
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To my knowledge hho is the hydrogen atoms and an oxygen atom.
Apparently this method is a valid.
If you do some research you will find that the 'water' powered car was devised some 40 to 50 years ago but was quashed by the oil companies.
Im no conspiracy theorist, but think about it logically, the oil companies have interests in the automobile manufacturing companies.
If we all had water or hho powered cars the companies would not have a stranglehold on the market, setting car prices and the ever increasing petrol prices.
Anyway, that's my two cents, but I'll have a cent change for my thoughts.
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14-06-2008, 06:56 AM
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i certainly think it warrants some thought. although the 2 lads said the standard falcon used 21 liters we all know they should use about the same as the early V6 engines (it also suggests that they aren't great mechanics cause it should be running better then it is), so less then 10liters really. taking that into consideration 5ltrs used on the modified falcon is not beyond the realms of possibility. it's easy for someone to say it doens't work but i haven't seen anybody back that up with anything yet
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