Lowering, Finally! - Just need to know some things first!

[Mc Nugget]

Hey all.

First up,

I have a 2002 VX II commodore.

Still have stock 16" Holden rims and rubber on them.

I got a set of Super low Kings for front (Part.no KHFL 47SL)

And

Super Super low kings for back (Part.no KHRL 127SSL)

I'm aware the rears are ute springs but have been told they will be fine!

I'm aware i have a IRS suspension setup.

I also Bought a set of front and back Monroe Lowered shocks for my car off ebay. Brand new. Suits irs and my make.

I have concern and worries about toe/camber.

What is best 4 point kit to get and how bad will it be lowering without it with super/supersuper lows.

Also guards rolled. will i have to with stock wheels? they are 225/45/r16, i think.

Need help and advice. hope to get it lowered when i get my major service done in a week.

Thanks.

Grant

[amd180]

If i remember correctly i put those exact ute springs in my sedan and it wasnt real low at all. Mine sat approx 20mm above the tyre with a 19inch tyre i THINK from memory. I would be putting at least a KHRL46-SL spring in the back at least to match the front but a KHRL46-SSL height would look nice. Ended up putting KHRL46-SSSL in the back to get the nicest right height. Just a heads up mate!

[Mc Nugget]

hmmm, sounds good... is there anything else i should need to know or have or be prepared to pay for

[Wagon_Wheel]

Ute springs with sit higher than sedan springs, as they are a heavy duty spring to hold more load in a ute

[Mc Nugget]

should i sell the spring and get a new set of correct ones?

is so what should i get. im looking for a low stylish look but still a little bit practical

[nicko]

yeh mate just sell them. Have a look at my vt ( i think u may have already) but they are pedders springs about $400 fitted. great ride height feels good on the road

[Mc Nugget]

yeh mate just sell them. Have a look at my vt ( i think u may have already) but they are pedders springs about $400 fitted. great ride height feels good on the road

what shocks? are you still running standard?

[nicko]

stock as mate, iv done some quick runs before and iv never had it bottom out on me. If iv got 5 people in it i just have to watch the tip and center muffler scraping on speedhump and driveways. Iv done some paddok bashing too lol and never any problems. Just make sure if you get a catback that they tuck it up nicely

[Mc Nugget]

stock as mate, iv done some quick runs before and iv never had it bottom out on me. If iv got 5 people in it i just have to watch the tip and center muffler scraping on speedhump and driveways. Iv done some paddok bashing too lol and never any problems. Just make sure if you get a catback that they tuck it up nicely

i'm wanting a little bit lower then what your car is, only a little!! i have been told the springs i have atm will sit and look great. others say otherwise. i'm confused.

i have a full set of Monroe shocks coming too. and i have been told Monroe aren't very good shocks

[nicko]

a little bit lower than mine would be the pedder sports riders, mine are the touring springs. Iv heard some neg stuff about monroe but in all honesty they have been around for that many years i doubt they could contuine to stay afloat if they produced poor quality stuff.

[Mc Nugget]

soo confusing choosing springs etc.. i just want to get it right the first time, so i don't have to waste money over and over to get the right height

[nicko]

yeh, as said the ute springs will sit a bit higher. I wouldnt put them in if i was you. Either king spring sedan SSL's or pedders sports ryders

[Mc Nugget]

ive been reading alot and very confused. what is a better comfort spring. while retaining the low look and retaining good handeling

[nicko]

any lowered spring is going to be a bit bumpy. To be honest i love the feel of a lowered car on the road, feels very responsive compared to the stock stuff. The touring springs i have are pretty firm but the sports ryders are a bit bumpier again.

I love hitting the twisties and iv got the 30mm sway bars and strut brace so its great fun through the hills. I wanted lower alround but when i went back to pedders the bloke their said that if i went any lower i would start to sacrafice my handling. Its very unlike pedders to not want to take your money so i decided that i would keep my handling and give up a little bit og ride height

[Mc Nugget]

i'm now leaning towards selling springs i have and buying a new set.

advice comments welcome.

i'm looking at SL or SSL height. on stock 16" rims.

nicko has already mention pedders. and other opinions on pedders or other springs needed. thanks

[666vt]

i'm now leaning towards selling springs i have and buying a new set.

advice comments welcome.

i'm looking at SL or SSL height. on stock 16" rims.

nicko has already mention pedders. and other opinions on pedders or other springs needed. thanks

mate, im in the same boat, im so confused, i have a stock vt, wanna lower it, probably gonna get ssl's as superlows look good but i think i want it a bit lower, your gonna have to let me know how you go champ, its so hard getting good advice anywhere, everyone says different crap.

[Mc Nugget]

mate, im in the same boat, im so confused, i have a stock vt, wanna lower it, probably gonna get ssl's as superlows look good but i think i want it a bit lower, your gonna have to let me know how you go champ, its so hard getting good advice anywhere, everyone says different crap.

thanks it. and i am confused whether i should put on the Monroe shock i bought or not. and most of all what springs. some like kings, some hate kings.

im thinking i might sell rear springs and buy ssl rears in sedan form :P

SSL's arent illegal right?

[cpbait]

had a car in at work with kings lowered springs and it drove great, felt like the factory springs, iv decided i'm getting monroe shocks and struts for my vy ss with kings s/l all round, was going to get the gt gas shocks, but noticed monroe have a new gt sport shocks and struts made in conjunction with king springs, so just waiting for the guy in spare parts to come back to work and find out how much then order a set of both, now deciding whether or not i should get a strut brace if so whats a good strut brace to get ? and where from?

and if i should get a better than factory swaybar? and how much, what size and brand? and would i be able to use the factory sway bar links?

[Mc Nugget]

kings s/l all round, was going to get the gt gas shocks, but noticed monroe have a new gt sport shocks and struts made in conjunction with king springs

Exactly the setup i'm getting, i have parts now, hopefulyl get them on next week

As for the shocks i ended up getting the new ones you mentioned above.

Monroe GT Sport Shocks, paid $300 for front and rear all

As for springs I've decided on sl all round?

KHFL-47SL

KHRL-46

Not sure where is best place to purchase the springs tho.

[vrsialac]

Just go to a suspension specialist tell them what height you want they will tell you what you need if they are any good also find someone who knows what they are doing with the rear camber setup some of them are useless i found Welcome to Wholesale Suspenion, King Springs Sydney!
were helpful and did a good job and knew what they were doing even swapped a set of springs that sat 2 high i purchased elsewhere for ssl for me free

[nicko]

[quote=cpbait;846713]had a car in at work with kings lowered springs and it drove great, felt like the factory springs, iv decided i'm getting monroe shocks and struts for my vy ss with kings s/l all round, was going to get the gt gas shocks, but noticed monroe have a new gt sport shocks and struts made in conjunction with king springs, so just waiting for the guy in spare parts to come back to work and find out how much then order a set of both, now deciding whether or not i should get a strut brace if so whats a good strut brace to get ? and where from?

and if i should get a better than factory swaybar? and how much, what size and brand? and would i be able to use the factory sway bar links?[/quote]


Get the strut brace and sway bars mate. I have a pedders strut brace on mine and 30mm sway bars. Made by pedders also. Goes ****in sweet through the hills.

[cpbait]

yeh shizzl3, there the king springs iv decided on, thats a good price, where'd you get them from? suspension city in melbourne sell the kings for $110 a pair 93295133. thats where i'm getting mine from, or bursons sell them for $120 pair. thanks nicko, i might go to peddars on saturday and get a price on them, did they set them up for you? how much did they cost you? where else is good to get them from and brands?

[Mc Nugget]

i am unsure what springs the KHRL 46 are...

are they low or super lows.

edit: i got the shocks off ebay. cant wait to get them in.

[cpbait]

yeh i think there s/l, go to Monroe - Welcome to Monroe Australia and go to gt sport, and then press onto click here to veiw the application listing and in it look at the table, it gives u the strut and part number then the spring part number (these are for kingsprings to suit the gt struts and shocks) the first column of springs is s/l and the second column is low, this will tell u which king springs u need and the part number. hope that helps u and anyone else looking at them.

[Mc Nugget]

oh ok. Thanks mate.


I will get the rears at burson's tomorrow for approx 120 is pretty good.

Altho i am thinking ultras in back (SSL's) to even the car out.

I already have a 2nd hand set of the fronts. KHFL 47SL's