20 inch sigs, what do you think?

[lumina01]

saw these on ebay, no **** there fake but i think we'll be seeing a fair few around. i reckon they look prety good depends how well there made.
thought about getting mine painted but would be better in 20's.

[DUK13Y]

I think they would look alright if you got em in the sorta stock silver colour. Wouldn't paint them anything else. That's only my opinion though.

[lumina01]

yer they have stock colour aswell i only posted that pic becuase it was different

[Troy711]

They would look good in shadow chrome.

[Cobez]

20" Sigs? I thought all of them were 19" including all fake sets.

I love Sigs, but they look ****house in black. Plus from alot of photos i have seen and peoples experiences, they don't last long, especially the fake ones from Egay, i'll dig up the thread with the pics of what happened to the fake Sigs , plus it's just because of the design of the wheel itself, it's not exactly strong, even Minux's Sigs from his VY Signature have cracks in them.

[Cobez]

Here you go, this is a pic of fake Sigs that have had a bit of pressure put on the outer edge, these are 19's, if someone is now making 20" sets of Fake Sigs, there is even more risk of this happening IMO:

[naf33n]

that doesnt even look damaged, besides been in two pieces...

how could in snapped out like that on a moving car without been damaged??? or was it just taking out to prove a point

[Reaper]

Here you go, this is a pic of fake Sigs that have had a bit of pressure put on the outer edge, these are 19's, if someone is now making 20" sets of Fake Sigs, there is even more risk of this happening IMO:

Hehehe looks like it hit a gutter or similar to me. Not a good advert for them anyway. A great pic as to why the cheap knock offs are anything but at times. Hmmm.... I remember a similar conversation recently about roller rockers

Reaper

[Cobez]

Exactly, and even the genuine Sigs run risk of having the same problem, my old set of genuine Sigs had a few small cracks in them.

that doesnt even look damaged, besides been in two pieces...

how could in snapped out like that on a moving car without been damaged??? or was it just taking out to prove a point

Because the copies are cheap and unsafe. They don't need to pass the Australian standards for this kind of thing either, because they aren't made here, they are just sold here via importing. If you MUST get a set of Sigs, i urge you to save the extra $1200 and get a set of genuine ROH / HSV Senator Signatures from Wheel King or any other genuine HSV wheel stockists.

Sigs are a great looking wheel IMO, but their design has weak spots that cop alot of pressure due to 1300kg+ sitting on top of it.

[wrx884]

black looks heaps better but sigs alone r **** LOL at them cracking hahahahaha 4 the price u pay u would think they would b able 2 make better quality rims out of them, fake or original.

Fail IMO.

[james_lives_here]

Silver for me, Black wheels just look tacky and messy

[wildss]

im not a big fan of sigs but i do like the matt black look like in the pic, would look good on my atlas grey ss


id never but the copies though after seeing what can happen

[Cobez]

That can also happen with the genuine wheels, it's something to do with the overall structural design of the wheel itself, but i'm guessing it can happen to the to the fakes easier. Plus the fake ones LOOK fake too. I had a set of fakies, they look gay up against real ones when i ended up buying a set of genuine sigs from Wheel King, then i sold them to a bloke AFTER i showed him those photos and told him to buy at his own risk and that i wasn't responsible for that happening on his car. Made him sign a bit of paper saying that too haha.

[Grennan]

I agree with troy, would look **** hot in Shadow Chrome.

[Commyfan]

I will probably be buying a set when I return to Australia in about a month.

[spike77]

that doesnt even look damaged, besides been in two pieces...

how could in snapped out like that on a moving car without been damaged??? or was it just taking out to prove a point

Exactly... was thinking the same thing

Does anyone know what car this even came off or the amount of pressure that these were tested at??

After seeing a genuine set of ve gts rims snap on a ve gts after hitting a rather large pothole in which he couldn't avoid. These cars are about 500kg heavier than my car. I believe under certain conditions any rim wether legit or fakes will crack/snap. They are all probably made from the same factory in china anyway... isn't everything these days

I have these on my car for about a month now with no issues
Yes and I've always been careful to avoid any holes, but sometimes it's just not avoidable.

I wouldn't believe everything you read..
If this was the case, we'd be seeing a lot of cases of snapped/cracked signatures.. It's just one person trying to over test the limits of a rim or did something not normal for that to happen.


Mick

[padrickz88]

i guess thats true....... i guess it depends on alot of things also...

e.g weight of the car... how low it is (puts more stress), rim size, road driving on... etc etc

i think the black one's would look good on the right car.....

[VIP SS]

saw these on ebay, no **** there fake but i think we'll be seeing a fair few around. I reckon they look prety good depends how well there made.
Thought about getting mine painted but would be better in 20's.

yuk they are awful

[Cobez]

Exactly... was thinking the same thing

Does anyone know what car this even came off or the amount of pressure that these were tested at??

After seeing a genuine set of ve gts rims snap on a ve gts after hitting a rather large pothole in which he couldn't avoid. These cars are about 500kg heavier than my car. I believe under certain conditions any rim wether legit or fakes will crack/snap. They are all probably made from the same factory in china anyway... isn't everything these days

I have these on my car for about a month now with no issues
Yes and I've always been careful to avoid any holes, but sometimes it's just not avoidable.

I wouldn't believe everything you read..
If this was the case, we'd be seeing a lot of cases of snapped/cracked signatures.. It's just one person trying to over test the limits of a rim or did something not normal for that to happen.


Mick

Nope, there was pictures on the "other" Commodore forum (SC) of a set of VX GTS 19" that did the same thing, and the VE GTS ones that did it too.

As i said, it's due to the structural design of the wheel itself, the bigger the wheel, the more pressure is placed on the centre / face of the rim itself. Bouncing off a gutter or hitting a big prick of a pothole wouldn't help the cause in any way though that's for sure.

My best mate now owns my old kitted and slammed VP that has a set of 19" Genuine ROH / HSV Senator sigs on it, and i was looking the other day, even those are developing cracks where the spokes meet the centre of the rim.

[wrx884]

Exactly... was thinking the same thing

Does anyone know what car this even came off or the amount of pressure that these were tested at??

After seeing a genuine set of ve gts rims snap on a ve gts after hitting a rather large pothole in which he couldn't avoid. These cars are about 500kg heavier than my car. I believe under certain conditions any rim wether legit or fakes will crack/snap. They are all probably made from the same factory in china anyway... isn't everything these days

I have these on my car for about a month now with no issues
Yes and I've always been careful to avoid any holes, but sometimes it's just not avoidable.

I wouldn't believe everything you read..
If this was the case, we'd be seeing a lot of cases of snapped/cracked signatures.. It's just one person trying to over test the limits of a rim or did something not normal for that to happen.


Mick

starting 2 see a fair few cases actually hopefuly ud b a lucky 1 n ur set dont crack but they r **** rims neways buy decent rims that have been made structually better as cobes said and that actually suit ur car

[spike77]

Hmm, If they crack they crack.
It's not like I drive a decent car anyway

[Cobez]

Bull**** man, your car is way nicer than the wheels. I'd ditch the wheels in a second to own your car. 215rwkw is no slug.

[CHEETR]

the thread on sc about the cheap fake knocks offs was made by me.

it was actually my mates car that the BSA rims gave way on, and sent him into a wall , wrote off his 50th anv vx ss ute.

up until about 6months ago it was still going though courts, and bsa now have to buy him a new one.

BSA are actually the company that manufacture alot of these knock offs.


the fake sig rims that are damaged , i posted on here and sc. the guy hit a pot hole, but it wasn't a big one.

[spike77]

It would of costed me the same amount to repair the damage to the ssv's, so I went for something a bit different and in 20's.

They'll stay on the car until I can get the rims I'm after.. that not many people have

It feels like a slug to me... in time

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Not to disagree or anything.. but that's farked how it took so long to resolve it.

It may of been just a one off or could of been a bad batch.
The only other rim I've heard of snappin after hitting a decent pothole is both the fake and even the legit ve gts 20's...

Seen heaps of the fake 19" sigs on a lot of cars, yet haven't heard anyone complain about them yet which leads me to believe that I see it as you just gotta be in the wrong place at the wrong time for something like this to happen.

Regardless of what wheel ya get, if ya hit a decent pothole it's gonna cause some damage..

I had a recent fight on my hands with DBA (dodgy brakes aust) in which I was forced into the gutter after a disc snapping on me and as being such a large company they'll in most cases win even if their at fault, but what's a little guy to do.. It would of cost me more to fight it than I would of got out of it.. Just don't recommend their discs to anyone worried about their safety.. was worse when the guy actually admitted he has seen them snap

Peace