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    Default GM keep lying, people keep buying !

    As some of you may know already, GM is the biggest thief in the world

    they sell cars with different names to different countries, and call it marketing

    and it's OK really, But WHY Oh WHY do they change the model ??

    since this is a Holden forum I'll only talk about those cars ..

    in the year 2000, GM started selling Holden cars in the middle east as chevy

    people loved their cars, and people kept on buying ..

    I think they sell more Holdens out of Australia

    as for the Commodore, they NEVER presented any car with a different

    Transmission other than the 4-speed auto (4l60E) ,WHY ?

    and now in the VE models, in 2007 they only sold 4-speed auto and

    6-speed manual, and they sold quit good ...

    Yesterday, I visited a chevy showroom (UMA)to see the "New" VE SS

    for the first look, I thought they finally decided to sell the SSV here ..

    as the new car had the same tail lights, I took a look inside, and I was

    Shocked !, it's just a regular VE SS (no screen or gauges) , BUT with a 5-speed auto !

    I'm not good at the marketing stuff, but if they sold the 6-speed auto and the SSV here, they would sell better

    SO, Why Don't They Do That ??
    Really really ... Fighting Temptations

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    I missed the part where they lied and were also caught being thiefs? They marketed a "VE SS" and it wasn't an SSV. They sell it as a Chevrolet, when it is owned by GM anyway and that is the brand the Middle East are familiar with... And they sold it with a 5spd auto? So one gear is added or stolen depending on where you're coming from.

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    All you do is complain
    Quote Originally Posted by garth
    well if it isnt mr i only have temp bans. how long you intending on staying this time hozy.

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    maybe they dont have the support over there to service the 6 speed autos, or parts would cost too much to service them? im sure they have reasons for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoZy View Post
    All you do is complain
    Agreed

    Everyone here is just keep complaining about the transmission, it's not only me

    everyone want the best stuff, but all we get is the Base model stuff

    plus, they should stop selling it as chevy , everyone just keep changing the badges and the grills to holden once

    everyone just keep screaming : We Want real Holden, but we get nothing

    no wonder they are going out of business
    Really really ... Fighting Temptations

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    It wouldn't help a bit - most people over there have likely never heard of Holden. Its a bit like saying that the Holden Astra here should be sold as an Opel or Vauxhall instead of a Holden. Holden is the "known" GM brand here, so it makes better marketing sense to sell it as a Holden instead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by goVZ View Post
    It wouldn't help a bit - most people over there have likely never heard of Holden. Its a bit like saying that the Holden Astra here should be sold as an Opel or Vauxhall instead of a Holden. Holden is the "known" GM brand here, so it makes better marketing sense to sell it as a Holden instead.
    Thats is the exact reason why they do it.

    QUestion answered. As for the trasnmission, they sell it with a 4 speed because thats obviously what their market research told them would be best for the target market.
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    I do find it ammusing everyone changes chevy badges to holden & here people change holden badges to chevy's lol
    Quote Originally Posted by garth
    well if it isnt mr i only have temp bans. how long you intending on staying this time hozy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoZy View Post
    I do find it ammusing everyone changes chevy badges to holden & here people change holden badges to chevy's lol
    Exactly what i was going to say!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BOY1236 View Post
    Agreed

    Everyone here is just keep complaining about the transmission, it's not only me

    everyone want the best stuff, but all we get is the Base model stuff

    plus, they should stop selling it as chevy , everyone just keep changing the badges and the grills to holden once

    everyone just keep screaming : We Want real Holden, but we get nothing

    no wonder they are going out of business
    Mate, if you wanted the best stuff you wouldn't be buying Holden.

    Over here, they are affordable as the local industry is protected from outsiders. Thats why imported cars are so expensive here, and why everyone turns to Holden or Ford for their V8 fix.

    Affordable? Yes.

    The best? No.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoZy View Post
    I do find it ammusing everyone changes chevy badges to holden & here people change holden badges to chevy's lol
    There should be a website set up where people can just do clean swaps, Chev for Holden and Holden for Chev

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOY1236 View Post
    no wonder they are going out of business
    If you are talking generally about US companies like GM and Ford doing it tought, its because they are struggling to pay the bills for their extensive health care pension plans for ex employees.

    I did read GM is trying to negotiate with the auto workers union to scrap the post retirement health plans, as it will be crucial in the financial survival of the company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoZy View Post
    I do find it ammusing everyone changes chevy badges to holden & here people change holden badges to chevy's lol
    this is a Holden Arabic Forum, check this page out :

    شبك الهولدن مع العلامات كامله!! للموديلات الجديده - منتديات اس اس فور إيفير SS 4 Ever

    ... Toyota RULES Saudi Arabia here ... the Toyota Ourion have the 6-speed auto

    did you notice that every new car around have a FWD ?

    and ppl like us only want a RWD V8

    Nissan made a BIG mistake making the new Altima a FWD ....

    PPL here are becoming more and more Loyal to Holden ... including me
    Really really ... Fighting Temptations

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    You wouldnt happen by any chance get your parts through JHP, from either ROB or Geoff or Jacky....

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    Quote Originally Posted by garth
    well if it isnt mr i only have temp bans. how long you intending on staying this time hozy.

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