EPA Notice (VIC)

[adamc11]

Hi Guys,

Received an EPA notice in the mail. Apparently an EPA officer reported my car as too noisy/problem with my exhaust. I have Pacemaker Tri-Y's, Magnaflowhi-flow cats and a twin 2.5" system.
1. Now what am i going to have to do to pass this EPA test? Standard cat back okay, or do i need to do the whole exhaust?
2. Will EPA test emissions also, or just noise level? I have a MAFLESS tune and OTRCAI so will these cause me problems?

Thanks,
Adam

[cpbait]

my mate had this too, at 1:30am we passed a cop car sitting in a service rd on north rd near brighton/ mckinnion area, didn't get pulled over, just got a letter about a month later in the mail, had to go for epa, passed after putting a silencer on his exhaust, was a stock vl 6cyl with 3" straight through exhaust.

yeh put standard cat back on and should be ok, emissions should be ok. unless your car is running extremely rich you should be ok.

[davway]

your notice should tell you what is expected of the car - if its just a sound check or a pollution check as well.

you need to do whatever you need to do to make the car quiet enough to pass the test.
if that means putting in a muffler or 2 - you better do it.

[Lumps of cheese]

What's the limit? 98 decibels or something isn't it?
There was one getting around warrnambool on the weekend, a blue 5.7ltr vz with the loudest exhaust i've ever heard, shit it was loud!
When i had mine fitted they told me they're only allowed to send it out at a certain decibel limit so i was pretty happy with that. Don't want it too loud anyway.

[adamc11]

I think it's 90 or 95db. cpbait (or anyone here in melb) would you happen to have stock cat back exhaust i could borrow if i can't arrange something else... just in case?.. i don't have mine. Also think the test is just for noise, not emissions. Hopefully i don't have problems when i C+H it soon.

[vlv8vic]

What's the limit? 98 decibels or something isn't it?
There was one getting around warrnambool on the weekend, a blue 5.7ltr vz with the loudest exhaust i've ever heard, shit it was loud!
When i had mine fitted they told me they're only allowed to send it out at a certain decibel limit so i was pretty happy with that. Don't want it too loud anyway.

also a white vs wagon with 19s on it (well on the front at least - tosser rims on the back) that must be well over. he's looking at an EPA notice too if he doesn't slow down in our street!

[weedo_86]

ive had it done before i just put the stock exhaust on in and out easy

[adamc11]

ive had it done before i just put the stock exhaust on in and out easy

As in catback only or full system?

I might just change the rear muffler to something very quiet. Also FYI it was my missus driving, she got done in Carlton, wasn't even driving it silly. Apparently her ex used to get EPA notices for noise and traveled on this street daily. So i'm thinking an EPA employee lives on this street.

[davway]

also a white vs wagon with 19s on it (well on the front at least - tosser rims on the back) that must be well over. he's looking at an EPA notice too if he doesn't slow down in our street!

i pulled up beside this POS today.
its got a yellow sticker coming to it soon anyway.

[weedo_86]

As in catback only or full system?

I might just change the rear muffler to something very quiet. Also FYI it was my missus driving, she got done in Carlton, wasn't even driving it silly. Apparently her ex used to get EPA notices for noise and traveled on this street daily. So i'm thinking an EPA employee lives on this street.

yeh it was on my vs i had extractors and i put the stock catback on passed no worries..... whe i got done dad was driving to cruise for charity cause i wasnt allowed to drive under tose power to weight laws

[stocky]

yeh it was on my vs i had extractors and i put the stock catback on passed no worries..... whe i got done dad was driving to cruise for charity cause i wasnt allowed to drive under tose power to weight laws

weak

top of the notice should say exhaust and emissions test, if its for both. id assume its only a noise one though, and only costs $40 from memory. i think you can get restrictor plates made up to go between the flanges in your exhaust.

[Bz Kn33z]

The Limit is 90DB, we got done in my G/F Magna TF 2.4L i took the cannon off and changed the rear muffler just a bolt up job to the stock exhaust and you wouldnt believe it but it pulled 89DB he said i just past, and it was quiet as anything.

[vlv8vic]

i pulled up beside this POS today.
its got a yellow sticker coming to it soon anyway.

oh yeah was it homeo and uglyette in the front? and some massive white stickers on the back? which i think, ironically, advertise the brand of wheel he only manages to have two of on the car.

[burnz]

Hi Guys,

Received an EPA notice in the mail. Apparently an EPA officer reported my car as too noisy/problem with my exhaust. I have Pacemaker Tri-Y's, Magnaflowhi-flow cats and a twin 2.5" system.
1. Now what am i going to have to do to pass this EPA test? Standard cat back okay, or do i need to do the whole exhaust?
2. Will EPA test emissions also, or just noise level? I have a MAFLESS tune and OTRCAI so will these cause me problems?

Thanks,
Adam

i'd send the letter back and tell them if they wish to take it ferther you can oblige.


i receved a epa notice for throwing a cigarette out the window, and i told them to bugger off,
or i'll sue. simply because i dont smoke in my car.

my point is they must pull you over with the police, and you do a drive by test.
and receive the infringment on the spot.

[adamc11]

my point is they must pull you over with the police, and you do a drive by test.
and receive the infringment on the spot.

The person that reported me works for the EPA though, so i don't think that'll work.

[Benboy]

You do NOT have to be 'pulled over by Police'. No different than when a parking inspector issues a ticket and your vehicle is unattended. Anyone can report you (to Police) for any driving related offences(s). So long as they can give evidence orally or with the aid of photos or video. e.g. neighbour can video you acting like a hoon, provide info to Police and you WILL be pinched - car impounded.

[burnz]

The person that reported me works for the EPA though, so i don't think that'll work.

so how did he perform the standarised test, how does it compare to vic road's,
did he's test comform adr27.....
my point is he's test is invalid he did not do it by the book.

[burnz]

You do NOT have to be 'pulled over by Police'. No different than when a parking inspector issues a ticket and your vehicle is unattended. Anyone can report you (to Police) for any driving related offences(s). So long as they can give evidence orally or with the aid of photos or video. e.g. neighbour can video you acting like a hoon, provide info to Police and you WILL be pinched - car impounded.

no sir wrong, a parking inspector cannot perform a balljoint test, only visual like tires.
epa cannot hand out ticket's they have zero power.

[adamc11]

so how did he perform the standarised test, how does it compare to vic road's,
did he's test comform adr27.....
my point is he's test is invalid he did not do it by the book.

It's impossible for them to test you on the road, that's why they give you an EPA notice so you can go get tested. Cops will defect you too if they think it's too loud, without testing it. I have never had any problem with my exhaust, even been pulled up by cops with it and never a word mentioned... this guy must have nothing better to do.

[adamc11]

epa cannot hand out ticket's they have zero power.

How sure are you? This guy was an 'EPA Officer' i believe the notice said.

[burnz]

How sure are you? This guy was an 'EPA Officer' i believe the notice said.

so now he's a licenced car inspector aswell???
what qualfication does he have???

the choise is your's to make, i tell them very brutaly where to go and will continue to do so.

[adamc11]

so now he's a licenced car inspector aswell???
what qualfication does he have???

the choise is your's to make, i tell them very brutaly where to go and will continue to do so.

So i'm guessing you've received EPA notices on the same thing? What do you tell them and do you get away with it?

[burnz]

the judge's are getting very tired of this guilty before innocent additude of veryus gov department's.
take'm to court or threaten them too.

[adamc11]

If i can't get out of it, how does it work? I take it to a tester (exhaust shop), get the to quiet it for me, test it, pass it, then put my old exhaust on and off you go? Seems like a waste of time, really achieves nothing.

[vlv8vic]

i'd send the letter back and tell them if they wish to take it ferther you can oblige.


i receved a epa notice for throwing a cigarette out the window, and i told them to bugger off,
or i'll sue. simply because i dont smoke in my car.

my point is they must pull you over with the police, and you do a drive by test.
and receive the infringment on the spot.

(it's further)...
Didn't read what state but not in vic, they can issue - in fact i could report a vehicle and they'll chase it up. If the guy's car isn't too loud then it'll be a simple process.
I'd suppose you signed a stat dec saying you don't smoke in the car? I've done some work with EPAvic and a letter telling the deskies to "bugger off or i'll sue" would have no weight whatsoever.

so how did he perform the standarised test, how does it compare to vic road's,
did he's test comform adr27.....
my point is he's test is invalid he did not do it by the book.

(it's his...)
He doesn't have to!!! He makes or the public makes an informed decision about the noise - like i said if they are wrong then the owner of the vehicle gets it checked and there is no problem. It isn't out there to make people feel bad - if the car is under the legal noise limit then get it cleared and get over it.