Quick rego question - Vic only.
just need to confirm my thoughts to see if i have this correct.
about 9 months ago i sold a car with rego but without a RWC (left the plates on).
I left it for them to get a RWC and then transfer the remaining rego into their own name - (i have signed forms renegging me from any legal responisbility towards any fines etc as well).
So, yesterday the rego sticker turns up in the mail - they havent transfered the rego in their name.
now, 9 months is plenty of time to do this, and i no longer want a car that is still registered in my name, to be on the road when im not in possession of it.
so is there any way at all they can go into Vicroads and present ownership papers and somehow get a rego sticker issued to them even though the rego is still in my name?
the answer im looking for is NO - tell me im correct.
i want them to turn up and ask for the rego sticker so i can tell them to F-O and go get a RWC first so it can be transfered into their name.
what im really hoping for is that if they dont contact me, they cant get the rego renewed so they will ultimately have an unregistered car.
Before anyone asks, im not going to go to Vicroads and just cancel the rego (even though i could), i want them to be forced to do what they should have done 9 months ago.
they have also moved from the address that they were living at when i sold them the car so i have no way to contact them either.
i dont mind trying to help people out either, i just dont like people that are too lazy to get things sorted for themselves.
so, is there only option to chase me up or can they get around going through me?
Donating Member
YEs they can pay the rego without your permission easiest way is via bpay they dont need any proof of who paid it as long as its paid. The problem is they would need the details of bpay account to make payment. Did you get the letter reminder in the mail before the rego was due? I'm also almost positive you could walk into vic roads and say that your paying it for a "friend" as they cant make it in for whatever reason though they may need some proof or signature
Originally Posted by Smidy
they cant pay it if they dont have the rego papers can they.
i have the rego papers, it hasnt expired yet, so without any payment info, i doubt they will be able to pay for it.
even if they somehow manage to pay it, they dont have the rego sticker and i seriously doubt Vicroads will issue another one to them over the counter when the car is obviously still in my name (for rego at least).
that to me means they have 2 options:
see me or
have an unregistered car.
i should make it clear too, i am not going to go pay the rego on their behalf.
im happy to let it lapse if they dont want to get a RWC and transfer the rego into their name like they were meant to 9 months ago.
Are we there yet?
They can pay it.All they need is the serial number off the rego sticker.Simple as that.Call Victoads and tell them what has ahappened and im sure they will cancel the rego for you.
damn it.
oh well, if (and thats a big if) they are smart enough to figure that out, i will cancel the rego on them so they have no option but to get a rwc and transfer it into their name.
Donating Member
As ado said you dont need the papers to pay. Hell they could even ring up pretend to be you tell them they lost the rego sticker/letter and give person on the phone the rego details and ask for the bpay details or something
Are we there yet?
Let them pay it then cancel the rego.Refund cheque come to you.
Donating Member
Lol thats some good payback
Let them pay it then cancel the rego.Refund cheque come to you.
funny you say that.Let them pay it then cancel the rego.Refund cheque come to you.
i had actually written that in my last post but deleted it because i thought it was too mean
If you sell a vehicle without a RWC you are meant to remove the plates and cancel the registration. Legally you can't sell it on the assumption the buyer will get the RWC though plenty of people do, a bit of info below from the Vic Roads web site.
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Transferring a currently registered vehicle in another persons name
When a Victorian registered car, motor cycle, truck or trailer has been sold, given as a gift or otherwise disposed of, and will be garaged in Victoria, VicRoads must be informed. The buyer must submit a vehicle registration transfer form to VicRoads within 14 days of taking possession of the vehicle.
To transfer a registered vehicle, a current Victorian Certificate of Roadworthiness (RWC) is generally required however some exemptions are available.
Selling or buying an unregistered vehicle
You do not need to provide a RWC or submit a transfer form to VicRoads. The registered operator can request to cancel the registration by contacting VicRoads on 13 11 71. A receipt of sale should be kept by the seller and the buyer that identifies the vehicle and the details of both parties.
If you intend driving an unregistered vehicle on a road you will need to obtain an Unregistered Vehicle Permit.
A person who sells a registered vehicle is required to:
provide the buyer with a RWC issued not more than 30 days before the date of sale
complete a vehicle registration transfer form with the buyer and keep a copy for their own records
A person who buys a registered vehicle is required to:
complete the vehicle registration transfer form with the seller
submit to VicRoads within 14 days of the sale the completed transfer form, RWC and fees
Means nothing.
As long as you have their details (including date of birth and/or licence number) you're able to declare on the back of any TCO notice that you disposed of the vehicle on a specified date to that particular person you're at that time declaring to be the person now in possession of the vehicle.
In future either do the transfer on the spot and YOU submit the papers with RWC or cancel the registration and hand in the plates. Sure it sucks for them to have to either tow or get a permit and you'll attract less prospective buyers, but if they really want the car they'll do it on your terms. That way you're ass is covered. I think most licensed testers will give you a new certificate free of charge (provided you get along with them) if it runs out before you manage to sell.
Banned
As I understand it, licenced motor traders can buy them from you without rwcs, and if someone turns up with their own mechanic who will fill out the rwc for them, they can take the vehicle with the existing rego.
Personally to let the person drive the car around with it still registered to you is putting yourself at extreme risk of financial ruin if something goes wrong.
The registered owner of the vehicle takes on many responsibilities which aren't lifted from you just because you have Fred X sign a piece of paper saying: "Ive got the car"
Also, just removing the plates isnt enough, you have to actively inform vicroads to cancel the rego.
Are we there yet?
If you sell the car with rego and no RWC the rego is supposed to be suspended not cancelled.If it was cancelled it must go over the pits yet suspension means you only need to get the rw and produce it at Vic Roads.
Banned
The way it reads is its not possible to sell the car with rego without a rwc. Yes, if it is cancelled it must go over the pits. You reckon you can get the rego suspended and the new owner can get a rwc and then register it in their name. Please tell us all how to do that.
Where is that on the vicroads site?, the only reference to suspension is if the vehicles rego is supended by law enforcement.
i dont see why your arguing about it really.
i can sell a car any way i please - as i have done.
the thread isnt about that at all, its about making the new onwer come and see me and explain why he never bothered to get a RWC so he can transfer the rego over.
since the question has been answered, theres no real point going on.
Infidel Bear
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Wrong. You must dispose of it in 2 ways, cancel rego and hand back plates, or get a RWC and sell with full reg. There are NO other options.
The fact you did not cancel the registration is your fault as you are in breach of the transfer policy. You should have followed the rules and you would now not be in this situation.
"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind."
- Theodor Seuss Geisel
Banned
maybe, but if some interesting points are raised that people want to discuss what has it got to do with you whether the thread continues or not?
This is one "argument" Id like to be proved wrong on. If there is a 3rd option to changing ownership of a vehicle that lets lets the buyer not have to present the vehicle to vicroads and the seller to not have to provide a rwc(and not get in the pickle you have) , then Im sure many of us would love to know about it.
Its gotta B a GenIII !!!
omg EXACTLY the same thing has happened to me ahaha thought the person i sold my car to lives in sydney! i was unaware that i had to remove the plates etc. didnt have enough time to look into it as it was advertised and sold the next day..Ive rang vic roads and asked them how to go about getting it out of my name and they said they couldnt do nothing they were being ****s.
Its been about 7months and the only reason i havent cancelled the rego is because i keep getting endless fines and parking tickets from the new owner... So have you cancelled the rego yet? is it out of your name?
havent heard from them yet.
not overly worried about it anyway.
ill chase it up if i dont see them before it runs out.
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