should i get my VT on gas, or does it just cause problems?

[joe seinfeld]

heard many different and read many different things from heaps of different people and just want a proper answer, it's causing lots of grief.

[VTSSDUDE]

What sort of person are you? I wouldn't convert my VT SS to gas. I have recently bought a VS V8 Ute with gas, and I am quite happy with it. Only thing is, you loose power on both gas and petrol as the gas mixer restricts the throttle body and lets less air in.
Apart from that, I don't even know I am driving the ute on gas now. On petrol the ute accelerates a fraction smoother and a fraction better. For everyday driving on gas, no problems.
Only problems I could see in a sedan you will loose a fair whack of your boot space.
Gas conversions have come a long way since the old days. Do you know anyone that has a gas car?

[reevsey]

i've heard the v6 ecotec engine runs badly on gas aswell from many people including a gas mechanic

[joe seinfeld]

i know one person who has their VT S on gas and it has to be serviced more often than you'd like. I want to get gas on the eco-tec engine, thats why i want to know

[HamaTime™]

A subject of much debate recently

read this thread for more detailed information

[Haydz]

gas is shit on a commodore dont get it

[HamaTime™]

gas is shit on a commodore dont get it

it is pretty shit aye

[phatvtcom]

All depends on what kind of driver you are. Ive recently put mine on gas which hasn't given me any set-backs at all. If you drive a sh*t load i'd say it pays off to have it on gas and its very rewarding. You will have some restrictions on various performance mods but the fuel money you save can go to the looks
Just go for it, i think the government rebate is still available, you'll save lots of $$$

[deserthead]

For those of you that comment on gas being shit in a commy, have u had one with gas?
If not then you cant really comment can you. . . . .
Our VX has been on LPG 4 the last three years and we've had no problems what so ever.

Joe, if ur car is mechanically good, then I dont see the problems.
Biggest downside is the loss of boot space.
Otherwise I can only see pluses, cheaper running, cleaner engine oil, heavier wallet, better for the environment(if u car about that thing)

[alien]

deserthead, i think it's crap. I have never owned one which got converted. But i have drive quite a few before and after the conversion. It is crap, and you definatly loose power. If your after power, dont do it. People will say you dont, but even vehicles i havn't driven and ive asked people if they saw power increase or stay the same and they say worse. Unless of course the vehicle wasn't maintained properly, in which case the LPG can get you more power, but not compared to a maintained engine.

You'll find many mechanics dont put their vehicles on gas because they know they'll loose power. You must also remember to run petrol through the engine (i suggest once a week or more) just to prevent LPG drying out the engine (you'll understand if you work on vehicles).

I remember one ute i helped a mate out with, was good before the LPG, rebuilt the engine, got a bit of power out of it (even though it was a ford). Then LPG was thrown on it, and the power just dropped. Need i say vehicle was sold shortly after?

[Haydz]

i owned a vr commodore that i converted to gas it was never quite the same afterwards.


you should get gas if you.

want to lose heaps of boot space
re fill more often and take forever to do so.
have holes drilled into your cars floorpan.
have gay little red stickers on your number plate
and not really save any money unless doing hwy kms

also make sure you use your fuel pump or it will **** up when you need it

[HamaTime™]

I have my VS Spack on gas...its great cos i do alot of driving and it saves me money, though it sucks because

1. Loss of boot space
2. Loss of power
3. Less economy
4. Smell of LPG constantly

it has its pros and cons, the pros outweighed the cons but as I have said before, I would always choose to have my car on petrol any day of the week

[ari666]

you should get gas if you.

want to lose heaps of boot space
re fill more often and take forever to do so.
have holes drilled into your cars floorpan.
have gay little red stickers on your number plate
and not really save any money unless doing hwy kms

also make sure you use your fuel pump or it will **** up when you need it

omg, hit the nail on the head

you forgot

want to service your cooling system more often
enjoy re-seating your valves
enjoy replacing stem seals
enjoy head work in general
enjoy that smell at the petrol station every time the gas is full and it sprays all over you.


gas is only good because you have two tanks and can go further without having to refuel.

[mazzstein]

gas is only good for bbq's

[Blown V6 Hatch]

Q: should i get my VT on gas
A: NO

Q: or does it just cause problems?
A: YES

[joe seinfeld]

thanks heaps guys this has been really helpfull, im leaning towards a no after reading all these comments

[HamaTime™]

thanks heaps guys this has been really helpfull, im leaning towards a no after reading all these comments

Spend $4k + and get direct injection gas and its not that bad...

[glavas]

if you want to save money just get a dieseal car.

[coder]

Spend $4k + and get direct injection gas and its not that bad...

Agreed, I converted my VT to gas (mixer) and things have never been the same. I'm spewing that there are restrictions on performance mods now and the car can run like absolute sh*t sometimes. Even more annoying is that not every mechanic will deal with LPG maintenance, so when I do have issues it is a headache taking it to different places.

On the flip side though, I spend 30-40 a week on fuel and get around 450km out of a 80 litre tank in city traffic, given that there are times when I do give it a little. So you will save cash and especially since the government is paying for it (cost me $250 from my pocket), if you aren't worried about performance and it is regularly serviced, why not.

The best way to go however is direct injection, costs more, has a higher octane and allows you to mod more flexibly but at least it won't splutter and give off loud BANGS! at the lights when you put your foot down like the mixer types do.

I've also had a VN on mixer gas, which ran terrible.

[alien]

So you will save cash and especially since the government is paying for it (cost me $250 from my pocket), if you aren't worried about performance and it is regularly serviced, why not.

I love how you think the government's paying for it, guess where it comes from? TAXES. And secondly, be weary of government incentives like LPG, house insulation, water tanks. Because once they pay up it's all recorded, if they bring in a tax on them later you can't really get out of it because you have that installed. Mind you with LPG it is a little different and taxes usually go on the price of the fuel to make things easier.

You've had lots of troubles with LPG, would you convert your next vehicle to LPG? And another question, if you were doing highway Km's would you bother with it too?

[coder]

I love how you think the government's paying for it, guess where it comes from? TAXES. And secondly, be weary of government incentives like LPG, house insulation, water tanks. Because once they pay up it's all recorded, if they bring in a tax on them later you can't really get out of it because you have that installed. Mind you with LPG it is a little different and taxes usually go on the price of the fuel to make things easier.

That's probably best left for a different thread altogether, I was only trying to make the point that you have to fork out very little for a conversion...

As for doing it again, I definitely wouldn't go mixer that's for damn sure, but I would seriously consider an SVI setup. However, given that my next car would be something I'd like to mod, I'd stay away from LPG altogether with the headaches it causes in that respect. That is, unless you have a wallet fat enough to do it properly.