Spray painting isnt as easy as that mate, firstly, setup is expensive you will need: Air Compressor (good high capacity one needed) $200-600, Gun (for best results you want a good gravity fed gun) $200-400, Sand Paper $200, A good dust and debris free space that is not damp or moist and has very good ventilation, Paint $400. To buy all your own equipment for a one off job, is a little pointless as add a couple more hundred and you could have it done by a pro. This isn't counting the fact you will also need someone to cut it back first, as without a booth it will be covered in overspray and then polish it which is around $100-200.
I resprayed a car and bought all the equipment needed including gun compressor and buffing machine for under $1100
Here is the video of me doing it.
A complete colour change I did it just for practice.
I would like to know how much it cost to do it with rollers.
At least doing it this way with this price you end up with a compressor a gun and a buffing machine.
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^^ thats a really good video, i watched it all
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Heaps of people have said the amount it costs in this thread and it ranges from $70 up. Bit of a jump from $70 to $1100!Originally Posted by CustomSprayMods
Painting properly will most likely achieve a better result but this method appears practical for people who don't want to shell out big bucks! This method also appears a lot easier for the in experienced painter (not to mention cheaper if you stuff it up).
Getting together the materials at the moment. I have now heard that apparently TOPLAC is not very good so I am not sure what paint I am going to pick up.
One question, Prep Solve, what exactly is it and where can I pick it up. I have a feeling I am going to kick myself when I get an answer.
Also instead of turps can I use White Spirits? I read about it in another thread and picked up a bottle.
Thanks!
EDIT : Also what is the name of a good Primer to use for the job. Thank you!
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Reading this thread again just proves something again to me. Anyone can have a showroom shine for not much bucks if they are willing to put in the effort.
To sum up a little though.. the reason this paintjob looks great is because the painter put in the effort, pure and simple. The same methods apply to spraypainting, regardless of which paint you apply.
You can roll it on, spray it on, brush it on, or wipe it on with a rag, it doesnt matter. If you are willing to keep rubbing it back and keep recoating, eventually you will have a perfect paint job.
Rolling it on will apply the paint more thickly, but less evenly. More rubbing back per coat, but possibly less coats, longer drying time between coats due to the thickness of the paint.
Spraying it on will apply the paint less thickly, but more evenly. Less rubbing back per coat, as many or more coats, but a shorter drying time between coats.
The object is to apply the paint and make it smooth. How you apply the paint (and what kind of paint you use) is up to you, but if you are willing to do the rubbing back then any paint can be applied with any method to get a fabulous result. You just keep applying it and keep rubbing it back until you get what you want.
Give it a shot people, its only paint. You mess it up, you rub it back and do it again.
Its so funny to even think of rolling on automotive paint.
Sanding for days and days is pretty hard work.
If you like spending months on a job that should take 2 weeks max for the same result to save some money then grab yourself a roller.
Also you cant (I dont think you can) roll metallic or pearl colours and get a good finish so you are limited to colours.
I have total respect for the gentleman who got this result with this method and anyone else who has in the past.
But im sure it wasnt easy or the most practical method.
Its awesome to see people keen on even thinking about doing any kind of body work themselves DIY is great. Keep up the good work.
Hey not saying I would choose to use a roller. Bugger that lol. Just saying that anyone can paint a car, if they have the time and determination. The difference between a good finish and a bad finish is hard yakka, both before and after painting.
This thread proves it. Far too much hard work for my liking, but it proves you can do anything if you are willing to get stuck into it.
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Read the actual thread and you may have a better understanding! You have already asked about cost that has been mentioned a few times so you clearly have not read much. You would also know that no one is trying to roll metallic or pearl and that no one is after a show car result. Marine paint covers some of the minor imperfections that normal spray paint would not - less prep.
We get it, you spray cars and you get a better resultThe people trailing this method have obviously got the desire to achieve something that doesn't cost a fortune. You will hardly see a VE HSV painted with rollers anytime soon though
No need to be so damn rude about it. He was in no way rude to you, a bit of respect wouldn't go astray. He is just simply stating the limitation of colours, and that he would not personally choose this method and maybe putting it out there that there is other options available. Ease up hero..Read the actual thread and you may have a better understanding! You have already asked about cost that has been mentioned a few times so you clearly have not read much. You would also know that no one is trying to roll metallic or pearl and that no one is after a show car result. Marine paint covers some of the minor imperfections that normal spray paint would not - less prep.
We get it, you spray cars and you get a better result
Not being picky but I use a $150 compressor, a $100 gun and I mostly spray in an open carport. I can buy enough paint/thinners/undercoat/sandpaper to do a quality pearl paint job for less than $400 total. Overspray in any small amount that may happen will be cut back in the final finishing of the paint, but if you are mixing your paint correctly and setting up your gun right there will be very little of that anyway.
No 'pro' is going to give you a total respray for less than 2-3 grand, especially if you are changing the colour of the car. Thats assuming of course he is working for himself, if you go to a normal panel shop you can double that price and then add some. To say that getting a professional job is possible for just a couple hundred more is BS, unless you are getting mates rates from someone earning a bit of cash in hand on weekends.
Not everyone can pick up a gun and get great results first time, but anyone can spray if they are prepared to just keep rubbing it back and respraying it until its right. 'Pros' get it to an acceptable finish the first time, time is money.
If you have the time and the determination, any backyarder can get a finish better than a 'Pro' will unless you pay the 'Pro' a bunch extra to go the extra mile.
Half the kids on this forum have no cash, plenty of time, and the desire for the chance to do SOMETHING to their ride that makes a difference. If using a roller and a bunch of hard yakka is what they want to do, then good luck to em, and with perserverance they will succeed. I personally would buy a cheap compressor and gun and start practising...
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Spraying in an open car port is illegal, its counted as pollution and if your neighbors complain it can be investigated (happened to us and we where painting in a garage -.-) not to mentions other factors, such as wind blowing shit into your fresh wet paint, bugs all that crap that could land on your wet paint I personally wouldn't do it in an open carport. Those prices where all based on getting the best results, how many cars have you done? Most $150 compressors will struggle to keep up with the airflow needed to do a whole car, and very little over spray? unless your running a VERY good ventilation system you will have quite of bit of over spray especially on the clear coat. You are also limited to painting only acrylic as a backyarder, as the hardener in 2pac is poisonousness..
In Victoria I know of a couple of places doing quality resprays for around the 1500 mark. and if your willing to put the effort in, some places will lay the top coat on if you've done all the prep.
Pros will generally get a better finish off the gun not only because time is money, but because practice makes perfect. An experienced painter will always have a better first hand finish, how ever its not that importaint, most cases a cut and polish can fix it.
hmm lets see. dont spray on windy days, that helps. neighbours? never complained, i guess they like meFresh wet paint? It aint wet for long sunshine.. and if a bug gets in, you remove it. Not hard.
$150 compressor will struggle yeah, if you want to do the car in one go. Heres a thought.. dont. Have a break for 2 minutes occasionally and the compressor catches up no problem.
2pak is certainly poisonous, I dont use it. How many cars have I painted? I have no idea, does that give you a clue?
I believe I did say a pro would give you a better finish off the gun. He just wont go the extra hours with finishing the job.
Honestly I didnt read the thread before I posted this question and didnt need to within hours someone replied.Read the actual thread and you may have a better understanding! You have already asked about cost that has been mentioned a few times so you clearly have not read much. You would also know that no one is trying to roll metallic or pearl and that no one is after a show car result. Marine paint covers some of the minor imperfections that normal spray paint would not - less prep.
We get it, you spray cars and you get a better result
I dont paint cars, I have painted 1 car other then that have just painted smaller parts. I am not a tradesman spray painter.
I have been to some day lessons and I also know quite a few tradesman spray painter/panel beaters with over 20 years of experience each. So before I do anything I ask each of them for their opinion on the best way to do it. Then I decide on which way suits me. Everyone has a different way of doing things so in the end do what suits you and if you get a good result then you can recommend that to other people, just like the guy that started this thread.
If your thinking of using the roller method then go for it.
If your thinking of using a spray gun in your backyard or garage I can tell you where to get free lessons (in Sydney) or give some step by step instructions.
At the end of the day people looking at this thread are thinking of working on their car themselves and I admire that.
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Actually, I was pointing out that he should actually read about this method before telling people his method is quicker and easier. That is like me coming into a supercharger thread and harping on about turbo's without even doing research on superchargers!
Ease up white knight!
Customcolours - I am just suggesting you have a browse through so people don't have to answer questions that have already been answered a number of times. Apologies if came across rude but I do have a pet hate for people dismissing idea's without even looking into them first. I have not personally tried this painting method but I have a lot of respect for the people that are willing to put in the effort and not pay tonnes for it
Customcolours????.. Who is not reading The thread properly.
Sorry I am inexperienced when it comes to forum Etiquette.
Still learning. I won't post anything until I read an entire thread next time if it bugs people that much.
(not being sarcastic) (just here to help) (smiley face)(merry christmas)
CSM
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I was in a rush and mistook your name, sincerest apologies CustomSprayModsWhen reading a thread I pay more attention to the actual information and not names of people posting it. (smiley face) (merry christmas) (insert fluffy animal)
Painting with rollers!!
Wow I've missed a few posts in here the last few days....
All I can say is its almost 4 years since I painted the wagon and the paint is still holding up. After a wash/polish/wax you'd still think I painted it just last week. I'll be sure to get some pics up soon (if I ever remember).
i remember seeing this on a yank forum, a dude roller paints his car for just over 50 bucks lol. came out pretty good too (solid white). but again its a shit ton of buffing.
ive literally painted thousands of jobs including over 100 full resprays, some starting from bare metal. all i can say is with DIY, problems that might come up is making mistakes under the paint or even mid coat. either not sanding properly or contamination at bare metal stage or in the primer, it can cause massive headaches if you skip or just mess up even one stage of the process. the most useful tools in tackling your own repaint is knowing what not to do... (which is a longer list than what to do)
that being said its good to see armatures getting their hands dirty, you cant learn anything if you dont make mistakes. im not a mechanic but i like to try to do all that i can even just to learn something. if i mess something up or break it i just count it as tuition... if you want a pro finish though, get a pro and pay the money....
i just quoted this iraqi dudes gen 4 supra, i told him paint strip the car (i counted 14 coats of paint in the rings) bring it to me in bare metal and ill do it for 2k (he supplies the materials) he thought that was too expensive.... im going to have him stop by the house and look at the calais...
dont sweat the petty... pet the sweaty...
Painting with rollers!!
As promised, new pics. Paint is almost 4 years old.
Just washed the car, and wiped down with a micro fibre cloth. Car was polished and waxed a few weeks before Christmas 2011.
There's a few stone chips and other blemishes, paint has also come off a tiny bit on my front bumper (1st pic, below left headlight) but overall it still looks good.
How hard can it be?
For 4 years that looks awesome mate! Do you think you did anything different on the front bumper to make the paint come off? Or do you put it down to it being the front bumper and air/weather and so forth bombarding it? Either way, 4 years down the road and all you'd have to do is maybe redo 1 panel, excellent value for money. Well done!
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Painting with rollers!!
Thanks for the comments
Problem with the front bumper is simple, I should have stripped the existing paint off the bumpers more. All I did was a light sand, spray with plastic primer, and then paint over the top. I'm actually surprised more hasn't come off in 4 years. Either way its not that big of a section to fix up...
Hey
Pretty keen to have a go @ this
I have a small car that Im doing an engine rebuild on @ the moment, so its sitting in the garage not going anywhere
Just wondering, as Brightside isnt available anymore by the look of it, does anyone have an idea on a replacement paint?
Cheers
Painting with rollers!!
Its already been covered a few pages back, I think its called Toplac, just give it a go and see how it turns out if you're using something different.
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