A traveling salesman who had spent several nights in a little
upstate New York hotel asks for his bill. It amounts to $30
which he, being a trusting soul, pays without more ado. Right
after the guest has left the house for the railroad station the
desk clerk realizes that he had overcharged his guest $5. So he
sends the bellboy to the station to refund the overcharge to
the guest. The bellhop, it turns out, is far less honest than his
supervisor. He argues: "If I pay that fellow only $3 back he
will still be overjoyed at getting something he never expectedand
I'll be richer by $2. And that's what he did.
Now the question is: If the guest gets a refund of $3 he
had paid $27 to the hotel all told. The dishonest bellhop has
kept $2. That adds up to $29. But this monetary transaction
started with $30 being paid to the desk clerk. Where is the
30th dollar?
A used-car dealer complains to his friend that today has been
a bad day. He has sold two cars, he tells his friend, for $750
each. One of the sales yielded him a 25 per cent profit. On the
other one he took a loss of 25 per cent. "What are you worrying
about?" asks his friend. "You had no loss whatsoever."
"On the contrary, a substantial one," answers the car dealer.
Who was right?
Now,lets see whos awake,whos asleep & who has some intelligence
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1.the maths is f###ed up
2.the salesman
Ill come back to the first one, lets look at the 2nd one..
2 cars - $750 each.
Car 1 made a 25% profit, so that ment he only paid $ 600.00 for the car ($600x25%=750)
Car2 made a 25% loss, so that ment he paid $ 937.50 for the car ($750x25%=937.50)
Now to break it down..
600 + ? = 750.. that would be $150
937.50 - ? = 750.. that would be $ 187.50
So the loss he occurred is $ 37.50
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1 is stupid.
2 is just maths
1. Clerk (who represents the Hotel) still has the $25, The Guest has $3 (part of the refund he was owed), and the Bellboy has $2 (which he kept for himself, not for the hotel). The guest hasn't actually paid $27 to the hotel as such, he has only paid $25 to the hotel (and $2 to the bellboy, and the other $3 is in his [the guest's] own pocket).
Last edited by madrx3boy; 09-08-2011 at 04:00 PM.
For the first one, it's more how it's worded than any sort of actual problem.
The $27 paid to the hotel includes the bellhops $2.
paid $30
price was actually $25 for room,man wasnt aware
manager refunded $5
man gets $3 back so man had actually paid $28
bellboy keeps $2
now = $30
so basically
room was $25
man given $3 = $28
bellboy took $2 = $30
total = $30
its how its worded,sound about right?
1. It adds up to 30. Just the way the question is worded throws people off track and is designed to make them miscount it time and time again
A few frustrated people with no answers,a few almost right as well as right answers & a few just completely way off
Will wait a bit longer & see what other answers come up
A pessimist is a man who thinks all woman are bad. An optimist is a man who hopes they are
Answer 1:The desk clerk received $30 minus $5, that is,
$25; the bellhop kept $2; that is altogether $27 on one side of
the ledger. On the other side are the expenses of the guest,
namely $30 minus $3, also equalling $27. So there is no deficit
from the bookkeeper's angle, and no dollar is missing. Of
course, if you mix up receipts and expenses and add the guest's
expenses of $27 to the dishonest bellhop's profit of $2, you end
up with a sum of $29, and a misleading question.
Answer 2:The dealer was right. The car that brought him a 25 per cent
profit cost him $600 (because 600 + 25% = 750). The other car on
which he lost 25 per cent cost him $1,000 (because 1,000 - 25% =
750). So the dealer paid a total of $1,600 for two cars which he sold
for $1,500, causing him a loss of $100.
A pessimist is a man who thinks all woman are bad. An optimist is a man who hopes they are
Now the question is: If the guest gets a refund of $3 he
had paid $27 to the hotel all told.
So hotel gets 30less 5 or 25, bellhop 2, and the client the refund of 3.
What cant you count ?
2.
percentages are cumulative. so 25% profit is based on a number less than 750 plus a percentage. So the 'base' number is less than 750 dollars. 25% loss is based on a number greater than 750 less a percentage, so the base number is more than 750.
Thats why percentages in terms of profit and loss are not trusted in industry. Those of us with any brains work in GM - Gross margin, which is an actual dollar value.