P platers doing 90

[coolvxss]

Im a P plater from canberra and can do whatever the speed limit is but i go for drives down the cost a lot and in NSW i always get stuck behind L platers and P plater doing 90. I think this is more dangeous because the trip to the coast is mainly single road so i have to make overtakes on the wrong side of the road all the time to get around them. Some people i talk to say P platers should be able to do the speed limit but L platers only 80 or 90, but i also think this is more dangeous because when they get there Ps they wont have any experiance driving over 90. It was part of my driving test to drive in a 100 zone.

Whos argrees P platers should be able to do the speed limit. Or thinks its ok how it is.

And also Which other states other then ACT, is it ok for P platers to do over 90?

[CarlySS]

i think Learners should have to start like there 1st year under the speed limit untill there used of the road then be able to do the speed limit, and think p platers should be able to drive speed limit "i do"
otherwise there is gunna be more accidents because p platers arent going to no how to drive as you say above 90

[coolvxss]

Yeah. and another thing i forgot to mention is that if i was doing 90 in a 100 zone and holding up heaps of traffic, i would start to feel a bit scared, especially on my L's because some drivers are pretty impatiant. I even get abused for doing the speed limit sometimes, when other drivers want to be doing 120 and im only doing 100 and im holding them back.

[1991_Vn2nV]

In South Australia, P platers are only allowed to do 100km/h and L platers are limited to 80km/h.

If you are on your L's and limited to 80km/h you shouldnt be in a 110 or 100 zone. You should learn how to drive, how a car reacts at normal speeds and get some experience before driving at higher speeds like that, especially in older cars.

[Boonz]

alot of my friends(p platers) i know do 110 on the highway, you pass a cop at 110 and they just keep driving the other way...i dunno wether its just cos im from the country but cops dont enforce that law like they should, so people just dont do their speed limit cos they can get away with it

[qwertsta]

Im restriced to 90kmph, tho i ignore it and every other p plater i know ignore's that aswell. If im in a 100 or 110kmph zone im not going to do 90kmph.

alot of my friends(p platers) i know do 110 on the highway, you pass a cop at 110 and they just keep driving the other way...i dunno wether its just cos im from the country but cops dont enforce that law like they should, so people just dont do their speed limit cos they can get away with it

I have passed cop's on the other side of the road doing 120kmph+. There's not much they can do when the lane's are split by the barrier's...

[Christina]

i was doing 95-100 on 110 roads... ah well.... coppas came zooming up behind me... twice... when i was on 100, nothing...

i heard P platers automatic licence suspension if over 100kms?

[KingDiamond]

It makes it hard to say you've actually overtaken someone if you're limited to 90 on red p's...

No one I know has gone 90 on a freeway, so deal with it coppers....

[redcedar]

How many P Platers have to die on our roads thinking that they are bulletproof ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???

[MikesVT]

Should be EVERYONE on the road going the posted speed limit...
Having all these cars going 20-30lms under the limit... Dangerous much?

[KingDiamond]

How many P Platers have to die on our roads thinking that they are bulletproof ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???

As long as it's not me doing the dying I say good on em - atleast they made the news

[VKStevo]

If you are on your L's and limited to 80km/h you shouldnt be in a 110 or 100 zone.

The problem these days is that L platers have to do like 50 hours of driving before they can get their P's, this can be hard to do especially if people live in a small town surrounded by 100/110 zones

[Mr Squishi]

Well the system in Tassie is a limit of 80 for L and P platers. Only have to display P's for one year and can then do the speed limit, but have a Blood alchohol limit of 0 and less demerit points (I think - not really sure) until you've had you license for 3 years or turn 25 (I think thats the age - feel free to correct me).

I have no real problems with the speed restriction (at least now I'm off the P's, its bloody annoying doing 80 on the highway) but then Tassie also doesn't have as dense traffic as elsewhere so overtaking is probably less of an issue

[Mr Squishi]

The problem these days is that L platers have to do like 50 hours of driving before they can get their P's, this can be hard to do especially if people live in a small town surrounded by 100/110 zones

Yup, been there, done that. Annoying as hell.

[1vngal]

I think it's fine the way it is. Yeah sure, getting stuck behind them is annoying, but you have to remember, these people are learning. Could you imagine someone who's never driven a car before zooming round 110km's p/h?? That'd be down right dangerous.

And as for 1st years P-platers, just because you get your provisional licence, doesn't make you anymore experienced than you were the half hour or so ago before your test, when you were still a L-plater.

And if you're incapable of slowing down, and following a L or P plater at 80km's without running up the back of them, then maybe it is you who should go back to being speed restricted. Honestly, it's not really that big of a deal.

Worst case scenario is that your stuck behind them for a few k's till you have a safe place to overtake. Have some patience, it won't hurt you.

[1991_Vn2nV]

alot of my friends(p platers) i know do 110 on the highway, you pass a cop at 110 and they just keep driving the other way...i dunno wether its just cos im from the country but cops dont enforce that law like they should, so people just dont do their speed limit cos they can get away with it

Its not easy to tell a car is doing 10% faster when they are going in the opposite direction... Plus there is 10% leeway anyway, so a cop cant do shit if you're doing 109 in a 100 zone on your P's.

[1991_Vn2nV]

The problem these days is that L platers have to do like 50 hours of driving before they can get their P's, this can be hard to do especially if people live in a small town surrounded by 100/110 zones

Yeah good point. But thats in the country so that has no effect on me

[1vngal]

Well the system in Tassie is a limit of 80 for L and P platers. Only have to display P's for one year and can then do the speed limit, but have a Blood alchohol limit of 0 and less demerit points (I think - not really sure) until you've had you license for 3 years or turn 25 (I think thats the age - feel free to correct me).

I have no real problems with the speed restriction (at least now I'm off the P's, its bloody annoying doing 80 on the highway) but then Tassie also doesn't have as dense traffic as elsewhere so overtaking is probably less of an issue

For the 3 years that you are a provisional driver you have 4 demerit points. Once fully licenced you have 12. Unless you turn 25 before the 3 years is up, then you go on to full licence as of your 25th birthday.

But yes, you are right.

For Tasmanian's, L-plate restrictions are: 80km speed limit, zero BAC content, and supervised by a licenced driver.

1st year P's: Display 'P' plates, 80km speed limit, zero BAC content.

2nd and 3rd year P's: Zero BAC content.

There are other restrictions like Provisional drivers can't sit beside a learner, and learners aren't allowed to tow trailers etc. But each one of these restrictions is a safety precaution. If the restrictions save at least one life, then there is every reason for them to be in place.

[VKStevo]

Yeah good point. But thats in the country so that has no effect on me

But still thats a lot of driving in the city for some people

just think if the family has to go to see some1 in another town along a highway, its a good chance for an L-plater to rack up some hours

[1vngal]

But still thats a lot of driving in the city for some people

just think if the family has to go to see some1 in another town along a highway, its a good chance for an L-plater to rack up some hours

Thats how I got my hours in 6 months. I live 3 hours away from my mum, so she used to catch a bus up, stay with me for a few days, then we'd drive down to place, and then back again a few days later. It would have taken me forever otherwise.

[craigvk]

There was a learner on the M1 drivin' 110 in a 100 zone whilst the instructor was asleep the other day. Madness.

[1991_Vn2nV]

But still thats a lot of driving in the city for some people

just think if the family has to go to see some1 in another town along a highway, its a good chance for an L-plater to rack up some hours

So...thats their problem...not mine It still has no effect on me.

[VKStevo]

So...thats their problem...not mine It still has no effect on me.

haha but i still havent fogotten this quote

If you are on your L's and limited to 80km/h you shouldnt be in a 110 or 100 zone.

[Bax]

I'm divided, it is good because it keeps everything to a safe speed. In unfavourable weather conditions, unpredictable events etc, a slower speed is a safer speed, all drivers should slow down, but the truth is L's and P's don't know how to react to these things yet, as they are not used to traffic and weather etc. Don't take offence guys, you's aren't.

However, it also brings the problem that on a highway, coming across a slow moving car is dangerous. If its single lane especially, dual lanes etc it should be okay.

Touchy spot. But I think it is fine how it is.

[pandaman]

In South Australia, P platers are only allowed to do 100km/h and L platers are limited to 80km/h.

If you are on your L's and limited to 80km/h you shouldnt be in a 110 or 100 zone. You should learn how to drive, how a car reacts at normal speeds and get some experience before driving at higher speeds like that, especially in older cars.

So you'd prefer that P-platers first experience of high speeds be on their own, after having done a year of driving at rediculously slow speeds? And people wonder why so many P-platers die on the roads. They get their license thinking "woohoo! I'm fully qualified to drive on my own!" get out there, exceed the limits of their skills and cark it.

Fact is the skills taught in the current licensing system are not sufficient to keep kids alive, hell only reason I know how to deal with the tail slipping out (it can happen in the course of everyday driving, oil is a bitch) is because I watched my ******** mates learning the hard way. The current system does not teach even basic car control skills, the rediculous speed limits are just another irritation. The supervisor should set those limits and gradually raise them as the L-plater gains experience.

On another note, the supervisor should also advise the learner to pull the **** over and let the queue of traffic behind them past if they're doing 70-80 odd in a 100 zone. An L-plater sitting there with a queue of 40 cars behind them is just dumb when it's so easy to avoid.