turbo, TT or Supercharge?

[ProMaX]

Ok so i'm getting a VZ SS at the start of next year and i know it's going to take awhile to save but i'm going to start now.

what should i get for my vz ss? turbo, TT(if it's possible, i don't know much) or supercharge it?

along the way whilst saving i'm getting the usual mods such as CAI, exhaust, tune, re-chip, intake manifold etc etc.

what do u guys think? post any comments/suggestions i'm open to criticism coz i don't know that much about cars anyways but have plenty of friends that do

[ProMaX]

for those of you who vote could u post a reason behind it, i'm just trying to balance out the pros n cons of each but really open to anything

cheers

[Bravotwozero]

I voted don't bother with any.

Mainly because I don't believe in forced induction on V8's. I'd prefer an N/A 8 worked to the max!

But if I was to choose out of the two I'd be going for a supercharged set up. More boost at low RPM's.

[JD]

i went supercharge because it would work out cheap and has the whine that i like!

[Doctor Sodways]

I reckon a nice big single turbo, cos driveability isnt required for everyone. But seriously, have a look into twin turbo set ups, they produce some very good power figures, spool up at low rpm and are easily driveable as a daily. "enhancedss" off this forum just sold him supercharger kit, to put a TT kit on, he is the man to speak to if you have any questions.

Marranos performance, i think are in sydney, they also do TT and T setups, they just did a twin turbo Coupe 4 for a customer too.

[ProMaX]

ah k thanks so much for the info doc, helped heaps,
i'll try have a look on the net for marranos, they do supercharging as well yeah?

[barbs]

hey,
just to let see some other companies, here are the websites from the shops ive used and not had any issues with, check them them out, i know marranos have a big following im sure any of these guys can tell you pros and cons

http://www.castlehillexhaust.com.au/

http://www.autotechengineering.com.au/

autotech have a very nice twin turbo monaro

[ProMaX]

barbs wheres abouts do u live?
I live near castle hill

seems like the votes for twin turbo are catching up to the superchargers

[Doctor Sodways]

I dare say that marranos will do supercharging, they sponsor the LS1.com.au forum, so they have a section in there that you can browse through.

Twin turbo is generally considered one of the best options for the LS1, a lot of people have them, and run some very quick times down the quater, while still being able to drive them daily without scaring the crap out of themselves

[barbs]

i live near parramatta, like 5-10 minutes from the westifields,

to add with marranos having a section on ls1.com.au

castle hill have one to, theres a nice thread about one them guys doing a one off TT on his vy ute

[minux]

Considering drive in and drive out it is 13k for a GenTT setup, i'd go with an NA setup, the direction i have gone has seen me easily get to 340rwkw with still more work to come. Why do you need forced induction when raw power is just as easy. Besides, too many people go FI to try and cut costs, in the end it will cost you more. Stay NA mate.

by the way, remember that all second hand cars and mods should be paid for with cash, any other way and you may as well burn the money before you spend it

[ProMaX]

what is with the concept of naturally aspired cars anyways? like would u be able to give us a list of mods to do so i can start saving up? i'm gunna fish around for some prices n what not

how does one make a worked N/A 8?

[barbs]

well im hoping to stay na, a nice cam and some head work, im not going for massive hp figures, just want a nice quick street car, so it wont be a big lumpy cam

[Cane_It]

go the supercharger,

check these guys out, I know of two 400+ rwkw beasts in melbourne running these babys, one with the LS1 ive had a ride in and it'll flog anything on the road, dont bother with a turbo and the associated lag, have boost right from the moment you stab the throttle.


http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com

[5speedcalais]

theres a twin turbo setup ut for monaros now so i assume they would be ok for ur ss and they are getting huge amounts of power. isnt cheap though i'd say stick a harrop supercharger on it

[wadeson88]

i know of this car in my area, its a twin turbo vu ss, and dammmmm that shit is quick. looks so clean to

[Pub247]

I think its more about u want if you just want power and torque why bother looking at forced induction. The amount off easily achievable power out of N/A work is so much more cost affective, plus you'll have awesome sounding car that'll do everything u wanted. If u want forced induction my choice would be betweenTT or S/C. Don't bother with single setups sure they make lots of power but would not make good everyday drivers.

[krazyboris]

Turbos on petrol cars are wrong.....sorry if i've annoyed any1, but they are, they belong on deisel's, preferably of the racing genre.

Supercharger's on the other hand.....well.....it just makes sense, cant really think of a better reason, dont wanna either

[SICK SS]

if i were you id start doing some research on pluss and minus of turbo Vs SC. theres no sence buying extractors if ur going to go turbo ur just wasting ur money. Then again i would spend the least amount on mods till you know wich FI path your going to head down. I wouldnt even worriey about edit cai because ur just wasting ur money because you will need a retune and they will just turf the rest of the **** because you dont use with FI. If your going SC fair enought buy a set of 1 3/4 4=1 extractors clutch twin 2.5 exhuarst. Definately upgrade ur clutch or auto and buy a decent cat back zorst and valve springs either way you go but until you no what ur going to buy i wouldnt spend to much on mods yet.

it all depends on how much money you want to spends and how much rwkw you want ( this kit is anywere from 300 rwkw to 400 depending on fuel and psi runing). the tt kits are around 7 grand but that dosnt include installing the kit ( not sure on how much the kit would cost to install ), injectors ( 800 ), fuel system ( 1400 ), 2bar tune ( 1000 ) and clutch or auto build ( around 2000 ) up so for the tt kit. The fuel system is a junior pro by dough boy ( maker of the tt kit ) it has high rate fuel pump surge tank and is designed to run with stock fuel system so its just bolt up you could skimp on the fuel system but you will only reget it later when ur motor leans out or your rwkw is held back because your runing out of fuel. I like this kit. there is holden ls1 runing 10 and 11 with this kit.

You could go the raptor kit wich is the way im going. There a sponsor on here and hav recently done a gen3 ute non intercooled running 7 psi of boost made 290rwkw. My ute is intercooled aftermarket heads ( and a cam going in the next month or so ) and going to be running 10 psi. I will post more up about my setup after its been tuned. But there is heaps of different SC's on the market theres roots, twin-screw and centrifugal.

At the end of the day preformance aint cheap i hope this helps you and dosnt confuse you mate.

cheers
thrifty
P.S i didnt vote on any of them its your money

[SICK SS]

I voted don't bother with any.

Mainly because I don't believe in forced induction on V8's. I'd prefer an N/A 8 worked to the max!

But if I was to choose out of the two I'd be going for a supercharged set up. More boost at low RPM's.

wtf sc boost is rpm related and arnt running full bost until there at full rpm the tt kits with ball bearing turbos can start building bost low in the rpm range be on full boost at 3000rpm.

[minux]

if i were you id start doing some research on pluss and minus of turbo Vs SC. theres no sence buying extractors if ur going to go turbo ur just wasting ur money. Then again i would spend the least amount on mods till you know wich FI path your going to head down. I wouldnt even worriey about edit cai because ur just wasting ur money because you will need a retune and they will just turf the rest of the **** because you dont use with FI. If your going SC fair enought buy a set of 1 3/4 4=1 extractors clutch twin 2.5 exhuarst. Definately upgrade ur clutch or auto and buy a decent cat back zorst and valve springs either way you go but until you no what ur going to buy i wouldnt spend to much on mods yet.

it all depends on how much money you want to spends and how much rwkw you want ( this kit is anywere from 300 rwkw to 400 depending on fuel and psi runing). the tt kits are around 7 grand but that dosnt include installing the kit ( not sure on how much the kit would cost to install ), injectors ( 800 ), fuel system ( 1400 ), 2bar tune ( 1000 ) and clutch or auto build ( around 2000 ) up so for the tt kit. The fuel system is a junior pro by dough boy ( maker of the tt kit ) it has high rate fuel pump surge tank and is designed to run with stock fuel system so its just bolt up you could skimp on the fuel system but you will only reget it later when ur motor leans out or your rwkw is held back because your runing out of fuel. I like this kit. there is holden ls1 runing 10 and 11 with this kit.

You could go the raptor kit wich is the way im going. There a sponsor on here and hav recently done a gen3 ute non intercooled running 7 psi of boost made 290rwkw. My ute is intercooled aftermarket heads ( and a cam going in the next month or so ) and going to be running 10 psi. I will post more up about my setup after its been tuned. But there is heaps of different SC's on the market theres roots, twin-screw and centrifugal.

At the end of the day preformance aint cheap i hope this helps you and dosnt confuse you mate.

cheers
thrifty
P.S i didnt vote on any of them its your money

Can i ask how much your supercharger setup cost you?

290 rwkw for a s/c is a waste of money, im NA and almost climbing to 350. I am looking at s/c in the future if i decide to keep the car, but i want around the 500 rwkw mark.

[padrickz88]

i said supercharger, mmmmmmm tyre shredding power

[SICK SS]

Can i ask how much your supercharger setup cost you?

290 rwkw for a s/c is a waste of money, im NA and almost climbing to 350. I am looking at s/c in the future if i decide to keep the car, but i want around the 500 rwkw mark.

that 290 rwkw is only 7 psi and non intercooler good starting point for entry level blower and 350rwkw cam car and 350rwkw blown car would be completely different cars to drive. i wouldnt be to caught up on peak power either mate that only wins dyno comps you want torque and torque every were throught the rev range. A blown motor will be a better behaved car at those power levels and stil get decent fuel consusion on the high way around town and in a drag my money will be on the blown car.

[minux]

that 290 rwkw is only 7 psi and non intercooler good starting point for entry level blower and 350rwkw cam car and 350rwkw blown car would be completely different cars to drive. i wouldnt be to caught up on peak power either mate that only wins dyno comps you want torque and torque every were throught the rev range. A blown motor will be a better behaved car at those power levels and stil get decent fuel consusion on the high way around town and in a drag my money will be on the blown car.

Not at all caught up on peak power, i prefer torque

I get ok fuel economy, did 340 k's on a tank and still had some left

I was just curious on the setup is all.