Engine Oil ?

[cpbait]

oh ok, i might have been thinking of another thread where people were talking bout the fusch products and got it mixed up. i appoligise, my mistake.

[vxcalais_01]

I have just switched to ULX110. Full mineral oil.

Wont use anything else again.

Good to see people starting to use it, i can see it slowly becoming very popular. Its already taken the WRX STi scene by storm. Only problem is very hard to find. But distributers slowly starting to increase. Hoping to test(oil test) its performance on a VX Super6 soon. Probably one of the best oils ever made, along with PM Lubricants and Brad Penns the Green Oil (Original real Kendall oil, just hit our shores a few weeks ago, watch it take off as well). The amazing thing about them is they are all minerals to some extent !

Nenenene i know what oil Bradcad uses hehe.

[vxcalais_01]

Its sad to see no one uses shell and Gulf western. If people only knew the quality of Gulf western oil, commercially its aussie made and one of the best easily available oils. Im most of their oils they use group 3 as a minimum, even in Synth blends, they use up to 30% pao in the synthetics, and even have ester base oil, all available at most Autobarns. Has anyone noticed the v8 supercars with gulf western all over them ? I have used it and top quality stuff.

ULX, PM Lubes and Brad Penns are not commercial oils, they are specialist/custom blend oils.

[maxpower QLD]

i normaly use penrite or conico in my cars

[BANKS]

I have just switched to ULX110. Full mineral oil.

Wont use anything else again.

What viscosity are you using 10w/40 5w/30?

Can you get it anywhere or do you have to order it in?

Just had a look on their website and they're claiming some big things:

• ULX-110 Increases your gas mileage from 6% to 20%
  
• A 38% reduction in friction using ULX-110 equals more horsepower and torque
  
• ULX-110 gives you an average of 33% reduction in oil consumption
  
• ULX-110 liminates the major cause of engine wear: "dry starts"

[vxcalais_01]

What viscosity are you using 10w/40 5w/30?

Can you get it anywhere or do you have to order it in?

Just had a look on their website and they're claiming some big things:

• ULX-110 Increases your gas mileage from 6% to 20%
  
• A 38% reduction in friction using ULX-110 equals more horsepower and torque
  
• ULX-110 gives you an average of 33% reduction in oil consumption
  
• ULX-110 liminates the major cause of engine wear: "dry starts"

Take those claims and any other oil companiy who says ti with a grain of salt. Application and data needs to be shown. Gas increase claims of any oil has so many variables, its just not funny, we could probably never simulate it. You would need to test same car, same road, same fuel, etc. Maybe they have. 38% reduction has been proven, doesnt mean it has less than another oil, Mobil, Nulon etc may also have this reduction probably measured against oil without friction modifiers like Penrite etc. Go the the Planet Soarer site and look at their independant oil test. Very unbiased. Principle of it is it dynod slightly better than Mobil 1 of a lesser viscosity, and didnt wear any more or less. Whats the point ??? Its only a Group 2+ mineral oil, some documents even say Group 1, but i have spoken to distributer here and he says otherwise, website slightly outdated, remember marketing is not their gig.

Oil consumption is reduced, if your car is ****ing oil, its not gonna cut that by 33% through your head gasket, rocker covers etc. Its normal consumption in the engine, say if your car uses 1 litre over 5000m then it will reduce, is has many viscosity related additives, it has wuite a high viscoity index for the oil it is. It basically eliminates dry starts from its 2 extreme pressure dditives, 1 being Moly(organic) which is has in very high doses, and the 2nd either Zinc or graphite, i am not sure yet. You certainly get less ticking form this stuff, and even in the bottle, the 20W is very runny, i believe from good quality pour point depressants. Im testing the oil in my brothr in laws vx super6.

ULX also have some basic dyno graphs on their site, i think done here in Australia. Read into it however deep you like. Go to their distributer site, some of them like Stand21 sell racing suits profession racing gear etc, and when i asked them if i could buy some, they were anal and said not my car only for racing etc. But talk to the main distributer, its clearly for normal street cars, its website highlights this, another distributer who builds and races WRX STi, loves the stuff, he' even sponsored by %%%(not telling) as i i dont wanna get him in trouble or i have said wrong thing. Even in gear box, he ditched Redline oil thats meant to be so good saying it left residue, ULX gearbox fantastic. No testimonials like penis enlargers, talk to the real people, V8 Supercars etc. Ask about it.

My personal attaction to it is its only a mineral, and it has **** loads of Moly which i like and agree with the theory behind it. Not like bulltish teflon. It also lasts up to 20,000k's. How ??? It has heaps of addtives it probably takes longer for it to break down, and higher quality. I am doing a test on it soon.

[commsirac]

Its sad to see no one uses shell and Gulf western. If people only knew the quality of Gulf western oil, commercially its aussie made and one of the best easily available oils. Im most of their oils they use group 3 as a minimum, even in Synth blends, they use up to 30% pao in the synthetics, and even have ester base oil, all available at most Autobarns. Has anyone noticed the v8 supercars with gulf western all over them ? I have used it and top quality stuff.

ULX, PM Lubes and Brad Penns are not commercial oils, they are specialist/custom blend oils.

have used gulf western in another vehicle I own..seems okay, only able to enter one brand on survey.....Ill use any brand apart from one of the more popular ones in the survey above.

As for what the v8 supercars use;
firstly, they are racing cars....horses for courses: its like comparing running spikes with shoes one is going to walk around in all day.
they couldnt care less about an oil with high viscosity at low temperatures

secondly: why would we believe they are supplied with the same stuff that we get dished up at supercheap

[vxcalais_01]

have used gulf western in another vehicle I own..seems okay, only able to enter one brand on survey.....Ill use any brand apart from one of the more popular ones in the survey above.

As for what the v8 supercars use;
firstly, they are racing cars....horses for courses: its like comparing running spikes with shoes one is going to walk around in all day.
they couldnt care less about an oil with high viscosity at low temperatures

secondly: why would we believe they are supplied with the same stuff that we get dished up at supercheap

Commsirac, thats a fair comment. I take them on face value in what they have written in a technical bulletin called Tony's tips. Yes, racing oil cars can be complicated in that they are sometimes ont suited to veryday use, lack certain additives etc. I have used it before the Protecta Ultra, contains 30% PAO Synthetic, for $27 its more Synthetic than that Castrol Edge 10W60 they sell for $70 !!!

[RVN 355]

Valvoline here. use it in all cars.

[Archers]

i use magnatec in all my cars

[leonthalion]

mobil 1 all the way!!

[taskmaster]

penrite for my berlina and valvoline in the missus little 3cyl ****box

it just seems to like the ****ty valvoline more humph

[vxcalais_01]

Amazing poll, Catrol clear of all. I would have expected to at least see Shell and Valvoline up there as well. Also a pity BP are getting rid of their fantastic oils and stocking Castrol since they bought them out.

[minux]

Of course Castrol is number, its one of the cheapest oils out there. Most people buy commodores because of budget reasons, so you don't expect them to use good oil.

[Scooter79]

Of course Castrol is number, its one of the cheapest oils out there. Most people buy commodores because of budget reasons, so you don't expect them to use good oil.

I think it may also have to do with mass advertising and market saturation.

[greenacc]

I'll be brave here , someone has to use SHELL !!! Shell is a massive company that's been brewing oils for years n years. Surely they know what they are doing by now ? I can't believe that all these new brands that pop up and claim to be the best can possibly have the knowledge or technology of shell, Can they ?
btw, i use shell cos it lasts longer , my engine drinks the others for breakfast.
Can we come up with 1 single clear winner of brand and grade from this poll ? then i would try it.

[excalibur]

penrite in my cars

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

Shell Super Helix in the cars that I service. The Outlander has a Castrol but it's a special blend apparently only for Mitsubishi. Can't buy it commercially.

[vxcalais_01]

I think it may also have to do with mass advertising and market saturation.

I agree, i believe this is the main reason, they sell their oil on the shelves at Autobarn and Supercheap before you ven get to the oil section, and then they are either end of the oil isle. Exactly the same story as the Supermarket, shelf buying power.

[vxcalais_01]

Shell is top class oil, one of the base oil suppliers along with Mobil. Produce the oil for a variety of Ferraris from Formula 1 to the Moderna (Helix Ultra 10W60). Have fantastic range of gear oils and trans oils as well. Also have one of the best diesel oils (Rotella). Since buying out Pennzoil i feel they are now even better, picking up some of their expertise. I would not hesitate to buy their oil over any other. But some people like myself like trying different oils. One oil not on the list is Caltex Havoline Oil. This is another fantastic oil another base oil blender and supplier. They (Texaco)invented the hydrocracking isosyn process to make the group 2 and 3 oils. Everyone else copied from them. Good example is their havoline premium 20W50. For $30 look it up, Stone Brothers(up until 2007, maybe still use) and other V8 Supercars use this stuff off the shelf. But Havoline only sell from Caltex/Safeway servos and some other smaller Auto stores.

[greenacc]

Hey Abba fan, I hear Lexus uses a special blend of castrol oils as well. could this be the same blend ? Could Castrol be telling porkies to everyone ?

[Not_An_Abba_Fan]

Maybe there is an oil only available to dealers and then the commercial variety. It's a warranty thing too, if my engine breaks and they test the oil and it isn't the correct one, no warranty.

Oh...and I'm not an Abba fan.....

[vxcalais_01]

Some people have actually mentioned that dealer oil is sometimes not the same quality as Commercial shelf oils. I think Holden at this time mainly just use rebadged Fuchs oil. But it is true about the warranty. Lexus may be either using Jap imprt Castrol or the German Castrol. Aussie and U.S Castrol is Craptrol in comparison to that stuff. I am not saying that it is bad, but that German stuff is meant to be the best Castrol available.

He's not an Abba fan as such but more follows the tribute band that goes around "Babba" hehe. I havent seen their ads for posters around for a while. Or was it a play ?

[The_Fat_Man]

i use royal purple in my baby... its a bit more expencive but i find it lasts longer and gives more responce.

[vxcalais_01]

Yes Royal Purple can be a good oil if you get the right stuff. The racing series is the correct one, not that SH%t from Autobarn. When i say that i mean for what it is, is not worth $84. Same as Mobil 1. Seeing as its an Import Oil, they are still loading a heap of extra pricing on it. Get the RP Racing 51 etc. Thats what the testing and reviews was done on. For $80 you could buy 2-3 bottles of another oil that would still crap all over it. Research before spending you $spandoolies$