Turbo or supercharger ?

[stocky]

in a attempt to understand the different types of supercharger i found this on the how stuff works site "
Centrifugal superchargers are the most efficient and the most common of all forced induction systems. They are small, lightweight and attach to the front of the engine instead of the top. They also make a distinctive whine as the engine revs up -- a quality that may turn heads out on the street. "

read the post above yours. who cares how efficient they may be when they are just slow. theyre nowhere near as efficient as a turbo anyway

[VT-565]

I didn't vote because it's a question open to so ****ing much interpretation.

I'm going to say nitrous FTW.

=)

PS. there are a few people on here that wouldn't know a compressor map if it hit them in the head, either.

[v8_stato]

gotta love the whine of the blower.plus i agree ryno_vrx more efficient which is better for an everyday driver like myself.blowers ftw

[ryno_vrx]

read the post above yours. who cares how efficient they may be when they are just slow. theyre nowhere near as efficient as a turbo anyway

i only pasted that because it stated the oppisite to what some other peoples where saying that centrifugal chargers where the less effective when most resources i've found stated differently, i personally have no idea about superchargers, i've never even been in a car with one, i have driven turbo'd vechicles and loved them
so i'm just interested in hearing what people think of super chargers and such

[ryno_vrx]

found this useful and informative
SuperchargersOnline.com :: Turbo vs. Supercharger

[delcowizzid]

there are errors on that page dont beleive what you read

[ryno_vrx]

i dont take it to seriouly, for all i know they could be a bias as F**K.... thats why i'm interested in what other peoples opinions are

[VT-565]

"Because a turbocharger is driven by exhaust gasses, the turbocharger's turbine must first spool up before it even begins to turn the compressor's impeller."

lol they talk about it like it's on a different shaft.


"Surge
Because a turbocharger first spools up before the boost is delivered to the engine, there is a surge of power that is delivered immediately when the wastegate opens (around 3000 rpm). This surge can be damaging to the engine and drivetrain, and can make the vehicle difficult to drive or lose traction. "

Wrong.

[stocky]

agreed thats some pretty crap information

[leigh 7005]

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sorry but some one had to say it lol dont get affended people

[Peter89]

turbo......

[holden boy]

i voted super charger cause u can buy it and install it urself easy peasy
were the turbos there are no off the shelf kits plus i would want 2 turbos
if i had to have turbos and then there is all the extra work involved were u can just chuck a supercharger on and change computer chip and we he instant power

[savage1987]

umm... if you can bolt up a supercharger it wouldn't be THAT much more work in the scheme of things to do a turbo setup.

[AirStrike]

i voted super charger cause u can buy it and install it urself easy peasy
were the turbos there are no off the shelf kits plus i would want 2 turbos
if i had to have turbos and then there is all the extra work involved were u can just chuck a supercharger on and change computer chip and we he instant power

Firs of all there is more to any form of FI then to mount it and fit a 'computer chip'. Second there is turbo kits to suit VN-VR V6, VS-VZ V6, VN-VS V8 and the full LS1 range.

[delcowizzid]

was just reading superchargers can soak up upto 30% of your horsepower so im still going turbo

[savage1987]

bah. Don't believe everything you read. Practical is often quite different to what you expect from theory. Drive both, then decide.

[Fred 96]

The sound of a supercharged V8 gets me going anytime

[savage1987]

Ever heard a turbocharged one? They're better

[kuzman89]

I like turbos.

Less wear on the engine and more economical to use, however if you want an economical car why drive a performance car??

More seems to go wrong with SC, but thats just what I've heard, if I was going to FI my VE would go turbo.

Anyone heard of the new tech they are using in the F1's?? Makes power through the wheels, can be used in a short burst much like nos, except its free power. Never seen it used locally and I dont know much about it.

[VryNeat]

after driving a stock r33 gtst down toojay road (Spelling) at 180 ks an hour im curious to what a turbo vp ss could do given the same conditions.

Now tell me if im wrong here coz i heard it from one person with no mechanical trade backing him up BUT i hear you can do dual application a supercharger for low to mid range and a big turbo for top end. Don't flame me as im curious to the idea of it and just wanna know if the guy is a twat. Until this question is answered i wont answer ^^

[stocky]

after driving a stock r33 gtst down toojay road (Spelling) at 180 ks an hour im curious to what a turbo vp ss could do given the same conditions.

Now tell me if im wrong here coz i heard it from one person with no mechanical trade backing him up BUT i hear you can do dual application a supercharger for low to mid range and a big turbo for top end. Don't flame me as im curious to the idea of it and just wanna know if the guy is a twat. Until this question is answered i wont answer ^^

check out VN_Lukes VN for the answer

[VryNeat]

check out VN_Lukes VN for the answer

can u shoot me a link im having a bit of difficulty finding him

EDIT: FOUND IT I VOTE DUAL APPLICATION

[pedrotski]

YouTube - Supercharged VN Group A

Marks work shop. They have even done a twin blown setup using a roots and centri charger on a VZ Maloo.

YouTube - VK 671 Wedding Skid

Sounds way tougher than a muffled V8 burble.

Turbos are gay. Good luck putting power to the ground with your powerband at redline. I dont know who said they are more reliable than a supercharger but they have obviously never delt with turbos that much. A huge majority of my friends are alwaying replacing turbos and gaskets. And after a 5000k service, the oil is terrible. I remember when we were just cruising around one night and then white smoke started pouring out the back of the 180sx. Turbos are good for a small engine that you never really drive much and want some extra power. But for somthing with real power, you are looking at a roots blower. I mean, i have never seen a Turbo run a 4 second pass

Not to mention that you have shit loads of lag. Unless you like that sort of thing :S:S

EDIT: if you want turbos on a v8, do a staged setup.

[stocky]

YouTube - Supercharged VN Group A

Marks work shop. They have even done a twin blown setup using a roots and centri charger on a VZ Maloo.

YouTube - VK 671 Wedding Skid

Sounds way tougher than a muffled V8 burble.

Turbos are gay. Good luck putting power to the ground with your powerband at redline. I dont know who said they are more reliable than a supercharger but they have obviously never delt with turbos that much. A huge majority of my friends are alwaying replacing turbos and gaskets. And after a 5000k service, the oil is terrible. I remember when we were just cruising around one night and then white smoke started pouring out the back of the 180sx. Turbos are good for a small engine that you never really drive much and want some extra power. But for somthing with real power, you are looking at a roots blower. I mean, i have never seen a Turbo run a 4 second pass

Not to mention that you have shit loads of lag. Unless you like that sort of thing :S:S

EDIT: if you want turbos on a v8, do a staged setup.

so your proof of all this is from driving behind a 180sx that probably had a crap setup. you really dont know what youre talking about

[pedrotski]

I have drivin 180sx's, Pulsar SSS's, Skylines, Supras, Aristos and Soarers. And all of them are fun. But it gets annoying not having that power on tap. The only engines reliable out of them are the Toyotas.