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    Default Full System Wipe... (about backing up files)

    hey guys,
    just wondering if someone can help me out...


    if i back up my HDD... to an external HDD...... will i need to install all my programs AGAIN..once i've cleaned the HDD and installed Vista??

    or will i not need to install everything again?

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    you will need to install your programs again. when you backup your files the only things you should worry about are personal files (such as documents, movies, mp3's and anything else you don't want to lose) and your profile (c:\users\<your-username>) also if you don't know what you're doing, you might want to get a knowledgeable friend to give you a hand so they can help you make sure you get everything you need and leave behind any useless/infected items (if it has any viruses on the current install) If your computer is running slow and that's why you are doing the re-install, be aware that you actually don't need to re-install your OS to make your computer run fast again...
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    Also if you are virus infected just doing a format and re-instal wont clear any viruses from the boot sector....you will need to re-do the boot sector as well or just zero and re-partition the HDD. Then instal the system and if its XP make sure you instal virus protection BEFORE you get online and update windows.

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    if your putting vista on an xp machine, just put the disk in and it will back you setting up anyway.

    cold boot with the disk in will prompt for a duell boot OS.
    run the disk from xp and it will perfom a simple upgrade.
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    Default Recovery disc advice

    Hi guys

    Sorry for breaking into this thread - I meant to create a new thread but stuffed things up a bit.

    Can someone advise me if the recovery discs provided with pc's include a complete installation for the OS and are they compatible with different brands of pc?

    I have a recovery disc for a Toshiba Satellite laptop, which I would like to install with Virtual PC on my Asus laptop. The Asus is installed with Vista. The Toshiba ran Windows XP.

    Will the Toshiba recovery disc cause any software or hardware problems with installation on the Asus, using the Virtual PC and XP?

    I posted a similar thread some weeks back and was advised to download the Virtual PC program which I have done. Really just need to clarify the compatibility issues with the Toshiba recovery disc now.

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    how do imake my comp run faster again??...thats the main reason why im doing it...'

    i've run virus checks (with multiple programs)... butstill rather slow compard to wat it used to be...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calaber View Post
    Hi guys

    Sorry for breaking into this thread - I meant to create a new thread but stuffed things up a bit.

    Can someone advise me if the recovery discs provided with pc's include a complete installation for the OS and are they compatible with different brands of pc?

    I have a recovery disc for a Toshiba Satellite laptop, which I would like to install with Virtual PC on my Asus laptop. The Asus is installed with Vista. The Toshiba ran Windows XP.

    Will the Toshiba recovery disc cause any software or hardware problems with installation on the Asus, using the Virtual PC and XP?

    I posted a similar thread some weeks back and was advised to download the Virtual PC program which I have done. Really just need to clarify the compatibility issues with the Toshiba recovery disc now.
    put you recovery disk in the drive and seperate XP softwear user key should be on the underside of laptop.
    and no, the toshiba softwear will bugger up the asus motherboard setting. simply crash.
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    how do imake my comp run faster again??...thats the main reason why im doing it...'

    i've run virus checks (with multiple programs)... butstill rather slow compard to wat it used to be...
    use "eusing free registry cleaner" in the program remove the rubbish in the startup and then clean the registry, youll be suppriesed how fast the old girl can be.
    NB: rubbish i mean by third party non system files
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    Quote Originally Posted by S2_VR_ View Post
    how do imake my comp run faster again??...thats the main reason why im doing it...'

    i've run virus checks (with multiple programs)... butstill rather slow compard to wat it used to be...
    I use Crap Cleaner. Do it every week or so to clear everything (all temp files etc) and it runs sweet. It isn't a virus scanner tho, so it wont get rid of viruses if that is your problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by S2_VR_ View Post
    how do imake my comp run faster again??...thats the main reason why im doing it...'

    i've run virus checks (with multiple programs)... butstill rather slow compard to wat it used to be...
    perform a defrag of your hard drive to start with, to perform this go to start --> all programs --> accessories --> system tools --> disk defragmenter and click "Defragment now" this will begin a disk defrag and will often speed things up to how they should be. Another thing to check is what programs start on your computer at startup and kill any un-necessary ones. A quick way to do this is to google "autoruns" and download the application that this leads you to. this program shows you everything that starts up on your computer at startup and allows you to stop un-necessary applications starting on your computer. Another thing you can do is go into the control panel (if not in classic view then select "classic view" on the left) and open "Programs and Features" from here go through the applications you have on your computer and remove any applications you don't use, also remove any internet explorer toolbars that you have installed that you don't use. Removing temporary internet files is another thing you could do, you can do this by downloading "CCleaner" which is what crap cleaner is called now, this application will go through and remove files that basically just take space on your hard drive, it also allows you to check the registry and remove any entries that are invalid as well as allowing you to back up the changes. Another thing that often speeds up Windows XP (not sure if they have it in Vista, and it may depend on what version of Vista you have installed as to whether it's available to you) is to open "component services" under administrative tools in the control panel, expand "component services", expand "computers", expand "My Computer" and select "DCOM Config" you may at this point get a few pop-up boxes saying that a component isn't registered and whether you would like to register it now, the best option is to say yes, and once you have done this for every time this pop-up comes up you can then close the "Component Services" dialog. If you find your computer is still slow after this point you may want to make sure your computer is free of spyware also. To scan for spyware and grayware, you should look for an application called Malwarebytes anti-malware and download it, this is another free utility and will allow you to search for any spyware on your hard drive. Finally if your computer is still slow after this, you may wish to look at a RAM upgrade as it may be that it just can't cope with the amount of applications you are using. I cannot really guide you through a RAM upgrade, but if it gets to this point you should consult a computer technician.
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    [QUOTE=burnz;1271744]put you recovery disk in the drive and seperate XP softwear user key should be on the underside of laptop.
    and no, the toshiba softwear will bugger up the asus motherboard setting. simply crash.


    Many thanks Burnz. Obviously not a smart idea then. Into the bin with it.

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    Those recovery discs come preloaded with all the drivers etc for that specific model of computer, using them with another model/brand will give erratic results at best, or just plain not work.

    If you're trying to install them to a VM however (eg VirtualPC), you're working in sandbox, so there is no real harm in trying.

    Failing that, you'll need to get your hands on a proper XP installation, via whatever means you deem appropriate
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    I think I'll try to get a proper XP program. I have a couple of applications that just don't want to know about Vista, but work fine on XP. One is my mobile phone software and I can't get my hands on the drivers for it without having the program working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danja View Post
    Those recovery discs come preloaded with all the drivers etc for that specific model of computer, using them with another model/brand will give erratic results at best, or just plain not work.
    The recovery discs for Toshiba laptops contain the Toshiba software for accessing the hidden partition on your Toshiba laptop and activating the install of XP from there, it's basically like rolling out an image specifically designed for the laptop and containing the Toshiba software. usually they will not work with anything else because they don't actually contain a full install of the OS, they just contain the software designed to start rolling out the image from the 'recovery partition'
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    Quote Originally Posted by Calaber View Post
    I think I'll try to get a proper XP program. I have a couple of applications that just don't want to know about Vista, but work fine on XP. One is my mobile phone software and I can't get my hands on the drivers for it without having the program working.
    You may have exhausted this avenue already, but there are some compatibility options in Vista which sometimes gets a stubborn program to work.

    Right-click the .exe, then select "Properties", there should be a tab for "Compatibility" and you can choose "Windows XP" emulation, or Windows 2000 etc. One of these sometimes does the trick.

    You may also find that right clicking the .exe and choosing "Run as administrator" does the trick. Also check that there aren't updated versions available from the vendor website.
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    Hi Danja

    No, I haven't exhausted those avenues because frankly, they are way outside my computer smarts. The only one I have tried is updated software but Motorola run a check online by plugging your phone in and it comes up with the IEME number and the original internet network the phone was sold under, then tells you that as the phone is outside its warranty period, updates are not available.

    Pretty shithouse attitude, I reckon, because the updates exist, but the phone is a 2005 model, (V3x) so the chance of anybody having one which was still under warranty would be pretty slim.

    All function work well on the phone except Bluetooth, which is a bit hit-and-miss - it fails to detect other appliances more often that not, and I know this is a common fault with that model of Motorola phone. I was hoping that the problem might have been sorted out with updated drivers, but can't find out because of stupid company policy. It's this phone's software which is incompatible with Vista.

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    That is pretty poor refusing to give you software updates because its a few years old.

    A while back now I had a V3 (the slim predecessor to the V3x) which I ended up finding some software online for which allowed me to flash the phone with new software. Some clever Russian bods (who else) had cracked it to give it extra features and a few other niceties like a "Vibrate and ring" option - sounds like a no brainer but the phone was actually released without this feature

    Anyway, there may be a similar option for the V3x - Google is your friend at this point.

    Another option is of course to upgrade your phone. If you are after a simple phone that nails all the basic features without giving you a whole pile of stuff you never use, it's hard to go past the Nokia 6300, or if you need 3G support the 6600 Slide is another good one.
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