motherboard

[shonky12]

hi guys probably should search first but need a quick answer.

following the motherboard i asked before, when i turn the computer on sometimes the bios wont come up but theres power going through the board, sometimes i wriggle the memory strip and then sometimes i swap it and the bios comes up.

also sometimes i unplug the computer and wait and try again later it finally works.

what could the problem be, board/cpu/memory strip.

want to know so i can decide on fixing that board up that my mate gave me to try out or buy new board/cpu/ram and start again.

its a p4 2.8 gig.

whats the best way to make more than one memory strip work together as i sometimes put 2 in and it doesnt work but i unplug the 2nd one and it sometimes works.

need to know as soon as possible

thanks

[Tom_1569]

Oh how you bring a smile to my face

regarding the RAM, did you read the other thread you posted? The RAM has to be matching, you cant go putting two different sticks in.
Regarding your mobo, its more then most likely something on the mobo itself, and not worth the hassle of fixing. Mobo's are cheap and easy to replace, trying to fix one is a prick of a job, timely and still only a chance it will work.
You will most likely need a LGA775 Chipset motherboard, which can be had for 40 od bux.

[Reaper]

hi guys probably should search first but need a quick answer.

following the motherboard i asked before, when i turn the computer on sometimes the bios wont come up but theres power going through the board, sometimes i wriggle the memory strip and then sometimes i swap it and the bios comes up.

also sometimes i unplug the computer and wait and try again later it finally works.

what could the problem be, board/cpu/memory strip.

want to know so i can decide on fixing that board up that my mate gave me to try out or buy new board/cpu/ram and start again.

its a p4 2.8 gig.

whats the best way to make more than one memory strip work together as i sometimes put 2 in and it doesnt work but i unplug the 2nd one and it sometimes works.

need to know as soon as possible

thanks

You may have one of those three phase computers. Take it to a factory and plug it into 400v. That should fix it.

Reaper

[Astranomical]

It should fix shonky12, too.

[Ozzie]

Sounds like a dirty ram slot to me.
If the bios comes up when you wriggle the ram then thats the problem. Its either dirty or loose. If its a loose ram slot then your best to buy a new board.
As for the ram not working when you install two sticks... It has to be the same type of ram (not matching as such)
If its DDR2 667 then you will need two ddr2 667 sticks (doesnt matter how many meg the sticks are)

eg, 2 x 512mb DDR2/667 or 1 x 256mb DDR2/667 and 1 x 512mb DDR2/667 will work.
But if one sticks DDR2/533 and the others DDR2/667 they wont work together.
has to be the same type not size

[Reaper]

It should fix shonky12, too.

awww now your teasing me....

Reaper

[Tom_1569]

If its DDR2 667 then you will need two ddr2 667 sticks (doesnt matter how many meg the sticks are)

eg, 2 x 512mb DDR2/667 or 1 x 256mb DDR2/667 and 1 x 512mb DDR2/667 will work.
has to be the same type not size

Are you sure? I was always taught it had to be the same size if going in the same channel, never bothered to actually test it though, but after cert III, and IV plus an advanced hardware and networking I just assumed they were right.

[Ozzie]

Are you sure? I was always taught it had to be the same size if going in the same channel, never bothered to actually test it though, but after cert III, and IV plus an advanced hardware and networking I just assumed they were right.

Dead sure mate put it to the test.. Windows will read whatever ram is in it aslong as its the same mhz

[Tom_1569]

Dead sure mate put it to the test.. Windows will read whatever ram is in it aslong as its the same mhz

Yeah Ill give it a run, caus you've got me curious... Not doubting what your saying, caus seriously TAFE are far from accurate teachers, but I have to learn there way to get a piece of paper

[Ozzie]

Yeah Ill give it a run, caus you've got me curious... Not doubting what your saying, caus seriously TAFE are far from accurate teachers, but I have to learn there way to get a piece of paper

LOL i'd do the same thing to get a cert... just agree with what they say lol
But working for Centre Com building systems is where I learnt most aspects.

[Fr3ak+--]

in my pc at work i have 1 256mb stick and 1 1gb stick of pc3200 and it runs fine

[adamc11]

hi guys probably should search first but need a quick answer.

following the motherboard i asked before, when i turn the computer on sometimes the bios wont come up but theres power going through the board, sometimes i wriggle the memory strip and then sometimes i swap it and the bios comes up.

also sometimes i unplug the computer and wait and try again later it finally works.

what could the problem be, board/cpu/memory strip.

want to know so i can decide on fixing that board up that my mate gave me to try out or buy new board/cpu/ram and start again.

its a p4 2.8 gig.

whats the best way to make more than one memory strip work together as i sometimes put 2 in and it doesnt work but i unplug the 2nd one and it sometimes works.

need to know as soon as possible

thanks

Could be a few problems...

Firstly, if you have the 2 memory sticks set up in a dual DDR configuration, they should be the same type of stick If not, this could be your problem. If you put them both in without dual configuration, then they should work fine even if their different.

Second, they may not work together because of old bios. Bios updates can fix problems with memory, so it might be worth updating it if it's outdated.

I would say it's either your motherboard, ram or old bios. Highly doubt your CPU is faulty.

[holdensupporter2005]

Just like I said in previous thread
865gdmp motherboard questions

[Tom_1569]

Just like I said in previous thread
865gdmp motherboard questions

You type to fast for Shonky to comprehend.

S h o n k y , H e r e i s h i n t , m o v e y o u r h e a d s l ow l y t o t h e r i g h t w h e n r e a d i n g a n d y o u w i l l b e a b l e t o r e a d s l o w e r , a n d m a y e v e n t a k e i n w h a t p e o p l e a r e t e l l i n g y o u .

[DavidPartay]

You can use different speed RAM. The computer will just run it at the speed of the slowest RAM.

You *can* experience some conflicts between different brands and models but 99% of the time you can run different speeds.

[Ozzie]

ok so what if he had registered ram? then hes up s**ts creek

but I would say the problem lies in a loose ram slot on the motherboard side..

check the diodes on the m/b to see if their poppin out too. sometimes funny stuff hapens when they do

[DavidPartay]

I never really saw the point in buying registered ram for even a high-end gaming PC.

I just don't see that the price would be worth any benefit you may or may not get.

[Ozzie]

I never really saw the point in buying registered ram for even a high-end gaming PC.

I just don't see that the price would be worth any benefit you may or may not get.

Nah registered ecc ram is specially designed for servers mate. 99.99% of gaming motherboards wont take ecc ram.

Some motherboards (mainly server) run ecc (registered) ram.

Most just run non ecc

If you try to run non ecc ram in a ecc slot it just wont go.
Same if you try to run ecc ram in a non ecc ram board.

[DavidPartay]

It's been a few years since I looked into it (for obvious reasons) but I'm pretty sure some of the REALLY older motherboards I used to work with (early pentiums) would have BIOS options to specify if you were using ECC or not.

But as I've never really paid attention to it so I could be wrong .

[bezz]

You can use different speed RAM. The computer will just run it at the speed of the slowest RAM.

agreed.. in my old old pc i have 768mb of sdram taking up 4 slots.. all different speeds and different sizes