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    Default Ecotec mail tune (vy)?

    I've noticed you've got the mail order tunes for the VE's and I'm assuming the VY runs a similar system with its computer as you cant 'chip' it. I was wondering if you do a similar thing for the vy ecotecs or not?

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    We're getting somewhere, just slower then what we would like on this front
    No worries at all... I figured it had to be more difficult than copy and paste off one of the vx chips lol

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    Problem with the VY ecotec it they're a flash chip which means MACE would have to do exchange ECUs ad then the customer would need to get that linked to their BCM. Would get expensive easily
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    Problem with the VY ecotec it they're a flash chip which means MACE would have to do exchange ECUs ad then the customer would need to get that linked to their BCM. Would get expensive easily
    ah ok. i dont really understand it but changing ECU's would be a bit of a nightmare

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    Quote Originally Posted by chargedvx6 View Post
    Problem with the VY ecotec it they're a flash chip which means MACE would have to do exchange ECUs ad then the customer would need to get that linked to their BCM. Would get expensive easily
    Not necessarily, you could mail your ECU in, but then you wouldn't have your car for a few days, but it would be cheaper and easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by acarmody View Post
    Not necessarily, you could mail your ECU in, but then you wouldn't have your car for a few days, but it would be cheaper and easier.
    This would mostly likely be the way which it would be done, though we're looking at other options to make it easier for everyone
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    This would mostly likely be the way which it would be done, though we're looking at other options to make it easier for everyone
    I really dont understand the what the difference is with the VY computer other than its a flash chip which i have no clue about

    Is it a problem with the software needed to load the tune being expensive and hard to get or more a problem with being able to email the tune?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr HaxZaw View Post
    I really dont understand the what the difference is with the VY computer other than its a flash chip which i have no clue about

    Is it a problem with the software needed to load the tune being expensive and hard to get or more a problem with being able to email the tune?
    The problem with the slow take up/development of programming the VX-VY's V6 computers has been the fact that software for the engine parameters/chip are physically soldiered on the board. Emailing a tune for customer to flash in themselves is something that we're considering, but is a case of easier said then done!
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    I believe all L67s got the removable memcal.
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    The problem with the slow take up/development of programming the VX-VY's V6 computers has been the fact that software for the engine parameters/chip are physically soldiered on the board. Emailing a tune for customer to flash in themselves is something that we're considering, but is a case of easier said then done!
    So if you could un-solder it what would you need to be able to flash the tune on?

    sorry to be persistent just trying to get my head around it

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    Quote Originally Posted by drift-it View Post
    is the l67 vy different steve? i've got a swapable memcal in mine...
    As acarmody has mentioned below

    Quote Originally Posted by acarmody View Post
    I believe all L67s got the removable memcal.
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    So if you could un-solder it what would you need to be able to flash the tune on?

    sorry to be persistent just trying to get my head around it
    You could do it this way though it would be a royal PITA I would imagine. It can also be done via the OBDII port as well

    Hope this helps

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    Yeah i wondered why they had the port there if you couldn't do the tune through it.... thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by acarmody View Post
    I believe all L67s got the removable memcal.

    Correct. VT-VY runs the same PCM but just talks a different language for VY.

    Flash software is getting there which negates the need to desolder a chip from the PCM. Perfect soldering (CNC style) is hard to replicate once you undo it
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    If Mace could do a change over ECU or flash type system for the VX VY tight arse PCM and keep the car legal etc would give them Legendary status in my opinion, if not already for the V6 scene hehe........ The amount of effort they have put in over the years, even though some things may not have worked out, the amount of products already is fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vxcalais_01 View Post
    If Mace could do a change over ECU or flash type system for the VX VY tight arse PCM and keep the car legal etc would give them Legendary status in my opinion, if not already for the V6 scene hehe........ The amount of effort they have put in over the years, even though some things may not have worked out, the amount of products already is fantastic.
    We're chipping away at it. Hopefully we'll have something to suit over the coming weeks with out cams

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    We can now offer mail order tunes (replacement computers) to suit out cams for VU-VX-VYs now

    They are a little bit more expensive, nonetheless though we can now supply them. These will be up on our site over the next week or two

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshy- View Post
    What are these gonna cost Steve?
    The price for a COMP cam and computer/tune will be $795
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    wow i think thats a great price. what type of cam is it? like what stage/specs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MR_VX View Post
    wow i think thats a great price. what type of cam is it? like what stage/specs?
    Cam specs are here

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    Quote Originally Posted by vxcalais_01 View Post
    If Mace could do a change over ECU or flash type system for the VX VY tight arse PCM and keep the car legal etc would give them Legendary status in my opinion, if not already for the V6 scene hehe........ The amount of effort they have put in over the years, even though some things may not have worked out, the amount of products already is fantastic.
    Yep.......Mace have definitely reached Legendary status in my opinion. All the best to Mace for bringing out the goods for our vehicles. I know its only early days, but have you any cars there with the cam kits on the VX'VY already ? What it idle and drive quality like ?

    To bring a Performance CAM and Reflashed ECU for VX etc. at $795 ?? down from previous $1000 + retune charges on top Cam is just amazing ! Hopefully the product does well.

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    Agree with ^

    I paid huge money for a Chiptorque chip and tune. BAH.

    Hey MACE, when you say replacement computer, do you mail out a ECU and the buyer sends thier back? Wouldn't that need the ECU linked to the BCM.
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