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    Default What mods would i have to do to get an NA Vt to produce 180KW at the flywheel?

    What mods would i have to do, to get an NA Vt to produce 180KW at the flywheel? Also what would i have to spend? i am not after crazy amount of power, just a bit extra than what it already has, and keep it nice and driveable, i occasionally will use the car to tow so dont want to lose too much, if any down low in the rev range. i am sure this question has been asked b4, did a search and couldn't find it.

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    A cam, lifters, full exhaust, throttle body, manifold and plenum spacers and a proper tune should get you over 180-190 if you do it properly so flywheel should be fairly easy

    Or you can do bigger injectors and a side mount supercharger and you should get around the 210rw mark if you tune it right and put an exhaust on it
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    CAI, Exhaust, Rockers, Plenum Spacer should get you about 170-180 with a fairly healthy motor

    If you are smart about it and you can get your hands on a good second hand exhaust all this can be achieved for under 1K

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    Stock VT ecotec is 147kw, add some ultra high ratio rockers, manifold and plenum spacers and CAI and it should get close to 180kw depending on the condition of the engine. With a decent exhaust added it shouldn't be a problem.

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    Hey joey8884,

    Some value for money items to consider to reach or exceed that figure would be the following

    ultra or high ratio rockers
    25mm manifold spacer
    12mm Plenum spacer
    Cold air intake
    cat back exhaust
    larger throttle body
    tune to suit mods

    Can refine components to recommend (as there are heaps of things which can be done to these engines) if you have a budget in mind.

    If you have any more questions please don't hesitate to ask.

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    ive just done some mace things to my vt 99 berlina. Memcal, plenium spacer, lukey catback, mace air box and still need to flush out my radiator and put in my 82c thermostate. But from those mods car feels so much healther. and it goes harder mainly around the 2k to 4k rpm mark, and dont have to floor it just to get it upto 100km/h as quick. How much kw increase do you think i'd be at with these mods up front 147kw?

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    Isn't a V8 with cold air intake 180@flywheel so just buy a V8 and you've got a great tow vehicle to boot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pjdm1980 View Post
    Isn't a V8 with cold air intake 180@flywheel so just buy a V8 and you've got a great tow vehicle to boot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by theghostoftime1978 View Post
    ive just done some mace things to my vt 99 berlina. Memcal, plenium spacer, lukey catback, mace air box and still need to flush out my radiator and put in my 82c thermostate. But from those mods car feels so much healther. and it goes harder mainly around the 2k to 4k rpm mark, and dont have to floor it just to get it upto 100km/h as quick. How much kw increase do you think i'd be at with these mods up front 147kw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by wraith View Post
    Don't try logic on people with 6 cylinders they just arc up at you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theghostoftime1978 View Post
    ive just done some mace things to my vt 99 berlina. Memcal, plenium spacer, lukey catback, mace air box and still need to flush out my radiator and put in my 82c thermostate. But from those mods car feels so much healther. and it goes harder mainly around the 2k to 4k rpm mark, and dont have to floor it just to get it upto 100km/h as quick. How much kw increase do you think i'd be at with these mods up front 147kw?
    At the wheels, peak power would be increased by around 10rwkw give or take or approximately 160kw at the fly. I use the flywheel term loosely though.

    Quote Originally Posted by pjdm1980 View Post
    Isn't a V8 with cold air intake 180@flywheel so just buy a V8 and you've got a great tow vehicle to boot?
    I suppose at the end of the day people enjoy the modding process, which is why people will mod pretty much everything.

    Does it make sense? If they're largely happy with the car currently runs I would say yes.
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    I'm about to make an order from Mace for my vy tonner. This order includes the 1.9:1 rockers, 69mm throttle body, and a pcm tune. The ute already has the 25mm manifold insulator, 12mm plenum space, 82 degree thermostat, and the Mace CAI. With the form I have to fill out for the PCM tune, is there anything I should make a special mention of or request so I get the best possible performance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vy1tonnerbloke View Post
    I'm about to make an order from Mace for my vy tonner. This order includes the 1.9:1 rockers, 69mm throttle body, and a pcm tune. The ute already has the 25mm manifold insulator, 12mm plenum space, 82 degree thermostat, and the Mace CAI. With the form I have to fill out for the PCM tune, is there anything I should make a special mention of or request so I get the best possible performance?
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    Just list the mods that you've currently got and what you want specially from the re-calibrated PCM and we'll do our best to accommodate for your needs. If we're unsure about something specific then we'll let you know, no problems at all

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    vy1tonnerbloke,

    Got your order and we're working on it today. Everything should be sent up today, except for the computer which will be sometime next week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oscar03 View Post
    buy an sv6 write off and swap the engine over and ecu and you have 190.
    Could set him back more than a supercharger?.



    Grab all the mace gear. Rockers Spacers tune thermostat, exhaust shift kit and just make sure the engine is healthy and that 180 shouldn't be all that hard to achieve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theghostoftime1978 View Post
    ive just done some mace things to my vt 99 berlina. Memcal, plenium spacer, lukey catback, mace air box and still need to flush out my radiator and put in my 82c thermostate. But from those mods car feels so much healther. and it goes harder mainly around the 2k to 4k rpm mark, and dont have to floor it just to get it upto 100km/h as quick. How much kw increase do you think i'd be at with these mods up front 147kw?
    My previous VS had 138rwkw... The engine was in very good nick, however, my baby had:

    FIT air box (very similar to the MACE one)
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    tune.

    She was alot of fun to drive, especially since she was a base exec which made her very light. Was very scary to drive in the wet.

    She pissed a few people off: my missus' sister bought a new SIDI Sv6 at the time and Jenna (my VS) was dead even in the straight line.. but not in the corners.

    Pity I wrote her off.. (High Range PCA.. the stupidest mistake of my life, and all of you who drink and drive are a reckless pack of wankers)

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    Quote Originally Posted by MACE View Post
    vy1tonnerbloke,

    Got your order and we're working on it today. Everything should be sent up today, except for the computer which will be sometime next week.

    Cheers,
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    Thanks again Steve. Can you just talk me through the process you guys go through to actually achieve the tunes you send out? As long as it doesn't give away too many of your secrets lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vy1tonnerbloke View Post
    Thanks again Steve. Can you just talk me through the process you guys go through to actually achieve the tunes you send out? As long as it doesn't give away too many of your secrets lol.
    Long story short, spark and fueling maps are altered, along with other maps related to the trans (if auto) to improve the driving experience

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    Quote Originally Posted by wraith View Post
    Don't try logic on people with 6 cylinders they just arc up at you.
    People arc up because they enjoy modding the V6 and constantly being told to get a V8 can get bloody annoying.

    There's a number of reasons people will choose to get a 6 over an 8 and vice versa.

    Some people choose to go the V6 route because of the better fuel economy vs a V8, even when the V6 has had work done to it.

    Lighter engine for improved balance resulting in better handling if they want to do track work.

    Insurance on a 6 is also cheaper than an 8 too...

    Don't get me wrong, I love V8's but they're not the only way to have fun and get the results you desire..

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    Quote Originally Posted by vtdan View Post
    People arc up because they enjoy modding the V6 and constantly being told to get a V8 can get bloody annoying.

    There's a number of reasons people will choose to get a 6 over an 8 and vice versa.
    And as old as a T model ford.

    Some people choose to go the V6 route because of the better fuel economy vs a V8, even when the V6 has had work done to it.

    Lighter engine for improved balance resulting in better handling if they want to do track work.

    Insurance on a 6 is also cheaper than an 8 too...

    Don't get me wrong, I love V8's but they're not the only way to have fun and get the results you desire..
    Mace in here proved the old little v6 inst dead. That bloke with the red VT V6 turbo is proof v6's are truly weapons when handled right. 550rwkw sub 10's and road driven.
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