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    Did you get the block resurfaced?

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    What kind of loser would drive a Supra?

    Looks good mate.

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    decking cast iron blocks isnt really necessary aslong as the are flat and clean there's no real need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pub24/7 View Post
    decking cast iron blocks isnt really necessary aslong as the are flat and clean there's no real need.
    especially when they're hard as balls... ive noticed jap blocks are alot stronger than others, for instance it takes ages to wear the bores, my motor has 0 lip on the bores where my v6 had a fair lip on it

    using a razor blade & very fine sand paper i cleaned the block to the point where its very flat with nothing that could ruin my nice expensive gasket

    most likely take it for RWC next week

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    How did you test it was perfectly flat? Say goodbye if it isn't

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaRaDoX616 View Post
    mack the majourity of 5L owners think they're all 14 second cars but truth be told most of them arnt...infact alot arnt, it makes you respect foam even more once you realize this!!!!!

    i just took the cheat way out and went turbo... :P
    Yeah but majority of 5L's dont have the black engine. Only time will tell.

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    straight edge + feeler gauge ftw!
    On a 400rwkw mission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack View Post
    Yeah but majority of 5L's dont have the black engine. Only time will tell.
    14 sec with a bolt on VN/VP should be quite easy. To get to 13 you need some things going your way too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AirStrike View Post
    How did you test it was perfectly flat? Say goodbye if it isn't
    steel ruler and feeler gauge

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    im not using a copper gasket, im using a Multi layered steel composite because everyone seems to have sealing issues with copper gaskets, ill most likely hit up the gasket with hylomar aswell to ensure a good seal. after all airstrike, i undid the headbolts in the corect order and the head didnt lift just blew out between the water jacket and the 6th cyc like they all do

    looks like it could be registered in as little as 1.5-2 weeks im in no rush however, i doubt ill get the gasket today so ill have to wait till next week to put it back together

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaRaDoX616 View Post
    steel ruler and feeler gauge
    As long as the ruler wasn't out of true, it should be all good

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    ive heard copper gaskets dont seal properly when the engines cold, due to the metal changing shape i think.

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    maybe something to do with the different expansion rates of steel, alloy and copper?

    I've heard copper gaskets are ace for sealing combustion, but poo for water and oil, forever weeping etc.

    having said that, I've never used one myself so I wouldn't really know
    On a 400rwkw mission.

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    yeah luke, ive heard of people running upto 27psi+ on these gaskets without any issues

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    Composite metal gaskets are about the best you can buy, especially cometic. Straioght edge and feeler gauge is the way anything more than 6 thou of distortion should be decked. Copperhead are good you do need to use hylomar sealant around water jackets and the like, they also need to be annealed before use. Expansion rates between different metals is an issue its genrally recommended after 100k's to back off and retension headbolts. This period allow time for the different metal and alloy heads to settle.
    The issue with m series motors is from factory the head bolt tension were only about 56 lbs of torque waaay too low especially on turbo's. Thus headgasket has always been the main issue. My old man had a cressida with this problem. I believe 110 lbs is about the correct figure now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pub24/7 View Post
    Composite metal gaskets are about the best you can buy, especially cometic. Straioght edge and feeler gauge is the way anything more than 6 thou of distortion should be decked. Copperhead are good you do need to use hylomar sealant around water jackets and the like, they also need to be annealed before use. Expansion rates between different metals is an issue its genrally recommended after 100k's to back off and retension headbolts. This period allow time for the different metal and alloy heads to settle.
    The issue with m series motors is from factory the head bolt tension were only about 56 lbs of torque waaay too low especially on turbo's. Thus headgasket has always been the main issue. My old man had a cressida with this problem. I believe 110 lbs is about the correct figure now
    bingo,

    i think it was 110nm not ft/lb (80~ ft/lb)

    well the stupid delivery man couldn't leave the bits round the back so i have to wait till monday

    oh well it will give me more time to prepare things

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    GAY ARSE ****ING COURIERS ****ed me round 3 times and im ****ed off just wanting to get my gaskets

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    I ran a 14.6 Gardonz, your time guess sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack View Post
    I ran a 14.6 Gardonz, your time guess sucks.
    i ran mine in 45deg heat!

    not a bad time tho!

    ****ing courriers!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ive called twice a day for the last 4 days to make sure my headgasket arrives and they tell me today "it might have been returned to sender" WTF...

    /ragequit

    apparently i get it tommorrow.

    i got the alarm working again and it cranks over now. got the boost gauge hooked up!

    not alot now till its running!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PaRaDoX616 View Post
    i ran mine in 45deg heat!

    not a bad time tho!

    ****ing courriers!!!!!!!!!!!!

    ive called twice a day for the last 4 days to make sure my headgasket arrives and they tell me today "it might have been returned to sender" WTF...

    /ragequit

    apparently i get it tommorrow.

    i got the alarm working again and it cranks over now. got the boost gauge hooked up!

    not alot now till its running!
    As Mack would say, HARDEN THE TRUCK UP.

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    hehe, ive be assured it will be dlivered today, i would have had the thing back together by now if they had have done what they were supposed to :P

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    thats a nice little sexy car you got there dude.
    hope it all goes well.
    sounds like youre guna push it pretty hard.

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    hehehe thanks, i intend to take it to warp 10....

    FINALLY got my gear notice the diffrence between Multi Layered Steel and Composite






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    best part is these gaskets are reusable!

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    Yep multi layered have the little brass looking rings that hold the layers together. We use them on some of the newer motors at work. Have you got the head on yet?

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