who here likes drifting!

[STEEV888]

K sport kontrol pro dampers. Adjustable etc.
Your spot on with the diff that and i would also like to do some circuit racing with it so it will be good for taking the tighter corners under deccelleration and it will still have the potential of kicking out under load and turn.

I'm not going as extreme as full sway bars over angle steering and hydraulic hand brake though.
To compensate for the diff when i get the gearbox rebuild ill look into getting an extended 5th gear to keep the freeway rpm down to 2500-3000 as per factory, Its the most annoying thing about higher ratio diffs and figured because it needs all new synchros so why not get it done.

Funny you should mention about the stock r31 as the guy who is right into it started with the exact same thing, rb30 with a minispool.
Since then he has done an rb25 conversion now sporting a high mount gtx3076 with 4.11 mechanical locker hydraulic hand brake etc, tuned at 300rww.

Even stock he could hold that sideways around a round about for as long as a set of tyres would last.
The skill envolved with drifting is amazing.


My car is a 200rwkw s14 with all supporting mods, just needs a bigger turbo and tune to make 270kw or so atw. 300 if I'm game...

[5lutevs]

I don't think you'd need more power, you don't need a tonne of power for drifting, I find technique is more important (like most driving imo) I started driving my 100kw N/A R31 skyline (RB30E) and couldn't lock two corners together at first, now still with 100kw I can lock consecutive corners without any worries. I think its more important to have a solid diff (tight LSD or spool) and work on your technique.

nice theory, the diff is important for sure haha. my lsd used to have me linking corners nicely but now its worn out and will only do right handers thats next on the list!!! my ute is quite heavy though so power doesnt hurt but your right. you can drift without tonnes of power its just harder

[sweefu]

nice theory, the diff is important for sure haha. my lsd used to have me linking corners nicely but now its worn out and will only do right handers thats next on the list!!! my ute is quite heavy though so power doesnt hurt but your right. you can drift without tonnes of power its just harder

Minispool is the cheapest option for drifting by far, around $90 on eBay plus new diff oil/rear housing gasket and its done, for under $130 depending on the oil you buy. Only thing is you can't put a minispool into an LSD centre, unless you go a 2-way kaaz or something similar, which is very expensive, spool is the best option. I think you'll find with practice you won't need the power with a diff with 100% lock up all the time, really changes things.

[sweefu]

Few pictures from yesterday's skidpan session

[Blown355cca]

sweet pics dude!!!

[Blown355cca]

cheesy's ute sounds awesome in real life!!!! Just saying.... Hopefully your hand will be all good soon so you can get back out there mate.... Sometimes i get my commie out there and try to keep the imports honest lol

[5lutevs]

took my ute out today with a set of 15's and had a few goes at hand brake entry. as it is the stock vs handbrake i had to use a fair bit of force to brake traction went really well suprisingly i recon with and extented lever with some sort of a trigger mechanism for releasing the hand brake and it would do just fine ! though it would be weak and most likely brake the cable any way had lots of fun with it especially as the old borg warner lsd actually span doubles consistantly with the skiny tires on the steel stockies haha

[5lutevs]

managed to pull-off a few 65-80km/h hand brake entries this weekend, never really tried them befor with the stock hand brake :O was great fun i think ill look into a hydraulic hand brake early next year when i can afford it

[Blown355cca]

if you use a feint/scando entry in your ute you might find it a bit easier then pulling the hand brake, plus you get the upside of having more speed entering into the corner as pulling the hand brake slows you down, making it harder to hold your line and link big corners together..... I've only just started to use my hydro brake after competing all year without it and the only reason why i have started is to help with battling as a lot of people can only initate with the hand brake......

[5lutevs]

excellenct point. i found that using it for entry was far better on tight corners that wernt as fast and that i wanted to use it going into smalled corners when i was carrying too much speed out of a long entry corner. ill see how i go with the flick method, my diff will probably ruin 3/5 tries though but i cant get onto that atm as im neck deep in this engine build. i just recieved my cam and lifters package (crane cams) along with a full acl gasket rebuild kit so i have to make some progress after christmas on assembling the crank, rods and pistons and really get this thing on the way

if you use a feint/scando entry in your ute you might find it a bit easier then pulling the hand brake, plus you get the upside of having more speed entering into the corner as pulling the hand brake slows you down, making it harder to hold your line and link big corners together..... I've only just started to use my hydro brake after competing all year without it and the only reason why i have started is to help with battling as a lot of people can only initate with the hand brake......

[Blown355cca]

the flick will also help over come a dodgy lsd by using weight transfer to slide the corner rather then sheer wheel spin.... I once slid a 2nd gear corner in 4th (long story) but was able to pull it off just by using weight transfer to carry me all the way around (120km/h entry speed helped too lol)

[nasty1]

i dont mind watching it.

id much rather see some one do a power skid from curb to curb

[GMMAD]

i wouldnt go much over 200rwkw on a stock bottom end or your asking for trouble

K sport kontrol pro dampers. Adjustable etc.
Your spot on with the diff that and i would also like to do some circuit racing with it so it will be good for taking the tighter corners under deccelleration and it will still have the potential of kicking out under load and turn.

I'm not going as extreme as full sway bars over angle steering and hydraulic hand brake though.
To compensate for the diff when i get the gearbox rebuild ill look into getting an extended 5th gear to keep the freeway rpm down to 2500-3000 as per factory, Its the most annoying thing about higher ratio diffs and figured because it needs all new synchros so why not get it done.

Funny you should mention about the stock r31 as the guy who is right into it started with the exact same thing, rb30 with a minispool.
Since then he has done an rb25 conversion now sporting a high mount gtx3076 with 4.11 mechanical locker hydraulic hand brake etc, tuned at 300rww.

Even stock he could hold that sideways around a round about for as long as a set of tyres would last.
The skill envolved with drifting is amazing.


My car is a 200rwkw s14 with all supporting mods, just needs a bigger turbo and tune to make 270kw or so atw. 300 if I'm game...

[sticksicks]

Climb Attack Brazil - Drift Serra do Rio do Rastro - YouTube
750 HP Single turdbo midmount V6.
yeah, it's a Hyundai but........

[*uwishn*]

i love drifting!!! i use to practice with macca's trays under the back wheels of my mums charade with the hand brake on,oh how i miss them days lol.

[sweefu]

That's not drifting lol

[GKW]

cheesy's ute sounds awesome in real life!!!! Just saying.... Hopefully your hand will be all good soon so you can get back out there mate.... Sometimes i get my commie out there and try to keep the imports honest lol

I've went out on the small track at Eastern Creek with Blown before Xmas. Good fun and a good laugh to see all the Rice boys checking out the V8 Commodore on the night. As Blown's title go "Tyre Torturer" he is.......................how many that night?? Good times.

[STEEV888]

i wouldnt go much over 200rwkw on a stock bottom end or your asking for trouble

350hp atw is pretty safe for a bottom end on an sr20. alot of people run from this to 400. I am not doubting your expertise i am just relaying information that i have researched.

however since then i have decided on not getting more power as the coilovers and new diff oil made a world of difference so when i get the box rebuilt and the 4.3 gears it should be plenty for what i want to do with it.

[sweefu]

I would focus less on power and more on suspension/brakes. Not only for drifting, but it will make the car a more fun experience to drive and allow you to go faster, you can't use 350hp going into a corner without having the brakes/suspension capable to slow you down.

[AmmoJammo]

52rwkw

[NickVR]

Is this you out there? I was there later in the afternoon. You were doing well with what you had mate well done. What have you done suspension wise to it too?

[AmmoJammo]

Is this you out there? I was there later in the afternoon. You were doing well with what you had mate well done. What have you done suspension wise to it too?

nah, its my mate Eli, I didn't go

Suspension wise, it has Koni shocks, lowered springs, and not a lot more I don't think... Diff is locked I do believe.

Suspension mods? Koni reds oil shocks, lovell springs, whiteline adjustable rear swaybar, 6mm steering lock spacers, nolathane front swaybar bushes and steering rack bushes.. and new standard rack ends lol. Had to grind down a stopper with the lock spacers. Uhh, a bit of toe out, and max negative front camber. Might extend the slots to get more neg. And increased track with around 0 offset effectively. But minimal mods really.

[Blown355cca]

Sweet Vid mate!!! hopefully I'll be able to make it this year, I wasn't able to last year due to still being in Darwin

Here's a video one of my mates made from a trip we did last year

[sweefu]

NSW people, anyone coming to the Wakefield drift day in April??

[Blown355cca]

^^^^^
hopefully LOL