The Holden VE II – or VF – will be the VE Commodore's first facelift since its introd

[Reaper]

The Holden VE II – or VF – will be the VE Commodore's first facelift since its introduction in 2006.

The new car is hiding more under the skin than on top.
A new, high-tech direct-injection V6 could be destined for the big sedan late this year when the car gets a refresh. The VF Commodore is likely to get a range of improvements designed to lift fuel economy and further develop the company's ‘Ecoline’ strategy.


Visually the car may also borrow some design elements from Holden's Coupe 60 concept car, like the repeaters in the rear view mirrors, deeper grille and restyled lower bumper air intake to give a smoother look to the front end.

The interior is also likely to get a styling make-over to better compete against the FG Falcon's stylish interior.


GM-Holden is not revealing details yet but the company has a choice of two DI engines of either 3.0-litre or 3.6-litre capacity that substantially reduce emissions and improve fuel economy.


The 3.0-litre delivers 190kW/298Nm, which is 15kW more than the current 3.6-litre Commodore engine but 27Nm less torque.


The bigger 3.6-litre DI engine delivers 225kW/369Nm and is available in GM's Cadillac models.


Holden Commodore VF: VE facelift | carsguide.com.au

[minux]

Would certainly be nice to see a decent interior, against the FG the VE interior is seriously dated. Would also be nice to see it not look so sanitary and basic aka cheap.

[Reaper]

Pretty clear - 3.0 Liter direct injection for the base models as has been posted else where. My information is still that there will be a larger variation (3.6L) for at least the Calais and SV-6. No word on the smaller version. Look to the Coupe 60 for styling cues regarding appearance upgrades.

Reaper

[Reaper]

Would certainly be nice to see a decent interior, against the FG the VE interior is seriously dated. Would also be nice to see it not look so sanitary and basic aka cheap.

No word on the interior..... Will see what I can find out

Reaper

[Super Coach]

maybe something along the lines of this........

[GAMBLR]

*cries* anyone think the taillights look like the FG Falcon?
front end looks alright tho

My guess is for VF. Holden havent used the Series II badging since the VY. Everything since then has had model years attached to it.
CC

[Calaber]

In today's Daily Telegraph, Mark Reuss was interviewed regarding Holden's future.

He obviously wasn't giving too much away, but he did say that future Commodore development would centre on refinement, economy and weight reduction but that major expensive facial upgrades were out.

I guess that means that the statements made at the time of the VE's release, that Holden was reducing the body life cycle from nine years to six, has gone out the window. Whilst the next model may be a mid-body facelift, I think it's likely that any really new Commodore could be deferred until 2014 or later.

[KARMA 6L]

No mention of a V8 replacement, have we seen the last of the 6.0L?

[greenfoam]

I think the more modern scalloped doors from the Coupe 60 will be scraped due to money saving but everything else should make it on

[Reaper]

No mention of a V8 replacement, have we seen the last of the 6.0L?

I think you will find the V8 will carry over virtually un-changed. It is still a relatively new motor. DOD will be just refined over the coming model years.

Reaper

[88GreenVN]

I guess that means that the statements made at the time of the VE's release, that Holden was reducing the body life cycle from nine years to six, has gone out the window. .

The body life may still be just 6 years - 3 years for the VE and VF.

[davey g-force]

I guess the chances of them actually releasing a two door such as the Coupe 60 / Monaro are slim?

If they do, I'm buying one!

[Reaper]

I guess the chances of them actually releasing a two door such as the Coupe 60 / Monaro are slim?

If they do, I'm buying one!

The term none springs to mind.

Reaper

[djeyecon]

a 3.6L to equal the power of a gen 3? i need to get me one of them..

[MickVE]

Shall be interesting to see what the next evolution of the Commodore will be.
The VE overall shape and lines still look fairly good against the competition, just a freshen of things like lights, small panel changes similar to the VY to VZ change I think will be what we see over the next 6-12 months. At least until the next major model upgrade.
Like the carsguide article suggests DI will be the major point for the updated model when it is released.

An engine upgrade is normally what happens at this point in a commodores life. Think back to new body in VY and same engine as VX to VZ same body minor updates and new engines. Same with the VE introduction, same engines as VZ but new body. So if history serves us well we should see minor body improvements and some new engines.

Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't the engine plant that makes the Holden 6.0L been closed by GM USA or is that the LS3 plant?

[Reaper]

a 3.6L to equal the power of a gen 3? i need to get me one of them..

Keep in mind that the major difference will be upside potential. Getting another 100 or so neddies out of the GenIII is very easy. The 6 will not have quite the same potential.

Reaper

[1991_Vn2nV]

a 3.6L to equal the power of a gen 3? i need to get me one of them..

Keep in mind that the major difference will be upside potential. Getting another 100 or so neddies out of the GenIII is very easy. The 6 will not have quite the same potential.

Reaper

Not to mention the torque, or the drivability, or the fact you don't have to rev all the way to or past redline to get the power out of a gen 3.

Same max power as the earlier Gen III's, still doesn't mean you should compare the two.