241Kw V6 Camaro

[Sphinx]

Chevrolet Camaro - GM unveils 241kW V6 for Camaro | GoAuto

[DevilDRake]

I want one.

[Darren_L]

impressive peak hp, but I'd like to see the power curve
in the article it mentions peak power at a rather high 6800rpm, which makes you wonder what it's more useable low & midrange power is going to be like....

[RazzaCaine]

more importantly, 400kw supercharged ls3 camaro:

Chevrolet 2012 Camaro ZL1 - Chicago show: GM springs 410kW blown V8 Camaro | GoAuto


YES PLEASE!

[nathanVY]

Man that looks good! What's the bet you could get that out of a tuned SIDI V6 with exhaust, cai etc though?

But I don't think you can tune them yet. o_O

[kuzman89]

Man that looks good! What's the bet you could get that out of a tuned SIDI V6 with exhaust, cai etc though?

But I don't think you can tune them yet. o_O

yeah I reckon you could, still for a stocker thats pretty decent. Though this engine with the same aftermarket bits might be in L98 territory (kw wise not torque)

[nathanVY]

yeah I reckon you could, still for a stocker thats pretty decent. Though this engine with the same aftermarket bits might be in L98 territory (kw wise not torque)

I can drive that but I can't drive a VT SS with less power.

[RazzaCaine]

I can drive that but I can't drive a VT SS with less power.

stupid p plate laws eh?

[nathanVY]

stupid p plate laws eh?

Already planning to move to germany lol.

[soop]

So its 6kw off what the LS6 managed in 2003 and doesnt have the same torque. In a car thats 400kg heavier.

Win...

[CSP]

So its 6kw off what the LS6 managed in 2003 and doesnt have the same torque. In a car thats 400kg heavier.

Win...

What does weight have to do with it? And why is it a win when comparing it to something that's 8 years old? I would expect better in that time tbh. Considering the V8 SS was making 195kw in 1997 and just 10 years later the V6 was equaling and bettering it.

[Kieran263]

Everything has to do with weight.

[soop]

What does weight have to do with it? And why is it a win when comparing it to something that's 8 years old? I would expect better in that time tbh. Considering the V8 SS was making 195kw in 1997 and just 10 years later the V6 was equaling and bettering it.

Do you even read what you post, or do you just go all Peter Griffin on us?

And Kieran is right.
If the chassis weighed the same as the earlier models MAYBE it would be interesting. But its not, so its really no better then an emotec performance wise.

[Zeussy]

What does weight have to do with it? And why is it a win when comparing it to something that's 8 years old? I would expect better in that time tbh. Considering the V8 SS was making 195kw in 1997 and just 10 years later the V6 was equaling and bettering it.

Ever heard of sarcasm?

Weight has a lot to do with it. Imagine 500hp in a 2500kg car, then 500hp in a 1200kg car, which would go quicker???

[kuzman89]

With extra wieght comes extra comfort and safety. Plus with the V6 you'd get heaps better fuel economy, milage and cheaper insurance costs. 241kw is pretty impressive for a V6. Considering the L98 only made an extra 30ish kw over the ls6 since 2003 it's not that bad.

[nathanVY]

If they put they in a cruze or something then maybe you could jump up and down a bit more

[Trayner]

If they put they in a cruze or something then maybe you could jump up and down a bit more

now that would be a fun car

[Sphinx]

bolt a couple of turbos up for a bit of fun.

[Full Spectrum]

This motor will be nice in the future weight reduced V Something.

this is good for those of us that like 6's, but when does the family engine power craze stop, 300kw ?.

[soop]

With extra wieght comes extra comfort and safety. Plus with the V6 you'd get heaps better fuel economy, milage and cheaper insurance costs. 241kw is pretty impressive for a V6. Considering the L98 only made an extra 30ish kw over the ls6 since 2003 it's not that bad.

Thats some interesting logic there... You cant compare the v6 to the ls6 or l98 really the torque curve and power curves are very different. The way the two motors drive is very different. The only people who will genuinly believe that the extra top end power is anything worth writing home about, are the same people who continuously quote motor magazine performance statistics. Before some noob jumps up and down. Yes i've had the misfortune of enduring the mind numbing custard teasing performance that is an MY10 sv6. Numbers mean nothing.

[one_and_only2004]

With extra wieght comes extra comfort and safety. Plus with the V6 you'd get heaps better fuel economy, milage and cheaper insurance costs. 241kw is pretty impressive for a V6. Considering the L98 only made an extra 30ish kw over the ls6 since 2003 it's not that bad.

STOP with the economy argument, the V6's aren't that much better than the V8's these days, in fact mine does a legitimate 9l/100km - my vy v6 did 9.5/100km. My thunder ute is $300 cheaper to insure than my v6 was.
Killerwasps mean shit all - it's all marketing. Torque is what you should be looking at.

[WogBoyz]

STOP with the economy argument, the V6's aren't that much better than the V8's these days, in fact mine does a legitimate 9l/100km - my vy v6 did 9.5/100km. My thunder ute is $300 cheaper to insure than my v6 was.
Killerwasps mean shit all - it's all marketing. Torque is what you should be looking at.

+1 I respect that comment lol

[ari666]

i am gonna sell those suckers to p-platers ALLLLLL day everyday


sweeeeeet

[shadetreemechanic]

Hmm this looks pretty good, they should supercharge this baby, give it a bit of sweet low end torque

[Darren_L]

Thats some interesting logic there... You cant compare the v6 to the ls6 or l98 really the torque curve and power curves are very different. The way the two motors drive is very different. The only people who will genuinly believe that the extra top end power is anything worth writing home about, are the same people who continuously quote motor magazine performance statistics. Before some noob jumps up and down. Yes i've had the misfortune of enduring the mind numbing custard teasing performance that is an MY10 sv6. Numbers mean nothing.

this is true.
I don't know what the power curve is of this engine, but judging from the Alloytec's up until now, I'd imagine the low to midrange power isn't going to be anywhere near impressive as it's peak power. And that's the thing about quoting peak hp only - there's heaps of 4 cylinder cars quoting amazing power figures (Honda is the best example), but that peak figure is only available at maybe 2% of the rev range and usually (as in this case), at a particularly high rpm. Below this rpm maybe only a maximum of 140kw is available ? And these amazing power figures usually don't translate when the car is tested down the 1/4 mile. Anyone who has driven Honda's would understand how gutless many of them are until you rev the absolute crap out of them. Yet look at their spec sheet and you'd expect a car that throws you into the back seat on takeoff.

Unfortunately both manufacturers and the public are obsessed with power figures. So if a manufacturer can increase the peak figure (even at the cost to low & midrange power) they will do it. Because peak power is how the engine is going to be rated/compared by the general public

I do hope for GM's sake that this engine has a fairly wide power curve, but I get the feeling it won't