Holden Special Vehicles W427 launched

[88GreenVN]

The W427 has been created for the cashed up execs with the ego to match the income.

Thats why they say only up to 427 will be built - I suspect that they will never build all of them. Unless the VE model carries on for 5 more years.

[xlr8_87]

You say its fugly, then you mention the new GTR. Now THAT is a fugly car.

Give me $160,000 and i'll eat your GTR with a boat anchor (VN)

in a straight line, maybe. round a track? dream on...

$160,000 will get you at least $30k of mods on an already awesome platform. you'd never get the handling out of a VN unless the whole chasis was basically re-engineered

[STEALTHY™]

in a straight line, maybe. round a track? dream on...

$160,000 will get you at least $30k of mods on an already awesome platform. you'd never get the handling out of a VN unless the whole chasis was basically re-engineered

I beg to differ. $160000 is alot of money on driveline and suspension components.

[1991_Vn2nV]

The W427 has been created for the cashed up execs with the ego to match the income.

Thats why they say only up to 427 will be built - I suspect that they will never build all of them. Unless the VE model carries on for 5 more years.

I reckon 427 will get built. 2 and a half year build period apparently. Over 100 already sold, so another 300 or so to go. Im sure the write up in Wheels and other magazines to come with this car actually being test driven will only push further sales. 300 cars aren't many to sell over 2 and a half year.

[1991_Vn2nV]

It is a **** poor effort, 0-100 in 4.7 seconds? Yippeee, nothing a tuned LS1 wont munch, how is it worth 155k? Dry Sump setup with a monstrous engine? Yay how exciting. It is just a GTS with a bigger engine. The car looks bland, over priced and fuel economy well, 17 litres per 100? Thats pathetic. This car is priced at double what a BMW M5 is actually worth in AU dollars anywhere else in the world, A DB9 can be bought in real world terms at less than the price of this car. The W427 has NOTHING special about it, sure it is expensive but so are many other cars.
If i had to part with that much coin, I'd certainly go the NEW V Spec R35.

Australian government needs to stop propping the **** out of Australian Manufactuers here, we get ripped big time because Ford and Holden cannot make competitivley priced cars. Christ imagine how great it would be to pay the real world price of 32k for a petrol or diesel 3 series BMW. Thats what everyone oelse ont he plant pays for them...except Australia

Considering it was Wheels that got a 4.7 second time and they believe theres still a few tenths in it (the track was damp) I think we will see better than that. If Motor don't get a 4.5 second 0-100 on a dry track i'll be very suprised, and a 12.6 second quarter as well. Keep in mind, Wheels struggle to pull a 5.5/5.4 second 0-100 in the normal E series HSV's.

This car should never have cost $155k, it should have been $120k max but the development costs blew out. What HSV have tried to do here is great, after all they only have commodores to work with. I can understand your attitude towards the car, but atleast they've had a crack.

[UNKNOWN]

They only have a Commodore base to work with but for 160k for a car that wont compete with any supercar in that price range is not that good.

[minux]

Considering it was Wheels that got a 4.7 second time and they believe theres still a few tenths in it (the track was damp) I think we will see better than that. If Motor don't get a 4.5 second 0-100 on a dry track i'll be very suprised, and a 12.6 second quarter as well. Keep in mind, Wheels struggle to pull a 5.5/5.4 second 0-100 in the normal E series HSV's.

This car should never have cost $155k, it should have been $120k max but the development costs blew out. What HSV have tried to do here is great, after all they only have commodores to work with. I can understand your attitude towards the car, but atleast they've had a crack.

Sorry but for the price tag I'd expect carbon brakes a 7 speed clutchless manual and at least sub 4 second 0-100 times. Crickey the Evo X MR is going to leave this thing in second place on a track and it has half the cylinders and more than half the pricetag.

I just think it is a lot of wank factor for no return.

[1991_Vn2nV]

They only have a Commodore base to work with but for 160k for a car that wont compete with any supercar in that price range is not that good.

Sorry but for the price tag I'd expect carbon brakes a 7 speed clutchless manual and at least sub 4 second 0-100 times. Crickey the Evo X MR is going to leave this thing in second place on a track and it has half the cylinders and more than half the pricetag.

I just think it is a lot of wank factor for no return.

As I said, it should have cost $120k max. I highly doubt 155k was the planned pricetag when they first looked at making this car.

Realistically, if this was all done at Holdens it would be atleast 15k cheaper. Why HSV have to pay for an LS3, standard 6 speed trans, diff, brakes etc. to then just remove it all to drop in the LS7, T6060, the 380mm brakes and its diff is just stupid.

[Summer-Sickness]

everyones saying this car is a typical redneck approach to making a faster car... since when have commodores ever been known to take a prestigious approach to this sorta thing? majority of people dont consider commodores to be prestigious cars... they consider them as dero cars, plain and simple...

if people havent realised that by now i guess they never will.

but i do agree with the $155k price tag being far too much.

[Calaber]

I still maintain the car is totally irrelevant to today's market.

[klaw81]

everyones saying this car is a typical redneck approach to making a faster car... since when have commodores ever been known to take a prestigious approach to this sorta thing?

I guess we all just live in hope that Holden will one day break free of the "more cubes is better" philosophy and come up with something new and interesting. The new Typhoons are more interesting than this car, even if they're not quite as fast.

HSV are calling this car a "world-beater" but it's actually not even close. There are plenty of cars that give equal or better performance for the same money or less, and they're not so brash and ugly.

[minux]

I guess we all just live in hope that Holden will one day break free of the "more cubes is better" philosophy and come up with something new and interesting. The new Typhoons are more interesting than this car, even if they're not quite as fast.

HSV are calling this car a "world-beater" but it's actually not even close. There are plenty of cars that give equal or better performance for the same money or less, and they're not so brash and ugly.

The M5 in real dollar terms is half the price. The R35, half the price. The Evo X 1/5 of the price, DB9 similar price. This car certainly isn't a world beater. I would of loved to have seen maybe a 3.5-4.0 litre V10 with Carbon brakes and all the fancy suspension mods. If this is what HSV had done, i would of ordered one of these cars months ago, but lets face it, its just a GTS with a bigger motor, slightly larger brakes and almost double the price tag.

[Bravotwozero]

I share a similar view as Minux. Doesn't excite me much at all.

The W427 is what the GTS should have been. It should also be a run of the mill model (not limited to 427 units) and be around 50k cheaper. Then it would make sense.

[greenfoam]

Once you have the spare money to buy a car like this the price tag is doesn't matter, because when you have that kind of money it's easy to make ten times more pretty easy. I'm sure they will sell them all. Like I said somewhere else for a factory holden/hsv in no doubt a very detuned state it's fast !. It sounds like a old school old lumping around big block beast of grunt monster and people will buy it for that reason alone, you just can't find many cars like that these days. Sure you can make a ls1 faster or anything with a turbo on it but so what it's just not the same as lazy pure grunt. I'm sure hsv would agree if you don't like that kind of thing then p*ss off and buy something else :d and leave one spare for someone that will enjoy it

[Jesterarts]

Thought I would finally have my say on this car.

This... is a total "Nothing" car thats rally expensive...

There is no feature it can boast against other cars in the price range its sitting in...

Its not the most powerful, not the best handling, not the most economical, not the best looking inside or out, it doesn't have much prestige...

Its the sort of car that rich people go out, get drunk and wake up the next morning with it in their driveway and think "Damn, how drunk was I last night".

I think you get a whole lot of "nothing special" for the coin that could get you something thats good at atleast something.

[greenfoam]

You know all those little weirdos you seeing wear HSV merchadise? some of those are going to get a easy run in life and have more cash than they know what to do with, those guys are all going to buy one of these and so they will sell

[Pub247]

You know all those little weirdos you seeing wear HSV merchadise? some of those are going to get a easy run in life and have more cash than they know what to do with, those guys are all going to buy one of these and so they will sell

LOL sounds someone i know Hsv obsessed got to wear his hsv "driving" shoes when driving his hsv

[Jo3_Blo]

It is a **** poor effort, 0-100 in 4.7 seconds? Yippeee, nothing a tuned LS1 wont munch, how is it worth 155k? Dry Sump setup with a monstrous engine? Yay how exciting. It is just a GTS with a bigger engine. The car looks bland, over priced and fuel economy well, 17 litres per 100? Thats pathetic. This car is priced at double what a BMW M5 is actually worth in AU dollars anywhere else in the world, A DB9 can be bought in real world terms at less than the price of this car. The W427 has NOTHING special about it, sure it is expensive but so are many other cars.
If i had to part with that much coin, I'd certainly go the NEW V Spec R35.

Australian government needs to stop propping the **** out of Australian Manufactuers here, we get ripped big time because Ford and Holden cannot make competitivley priced cars. Christ imagine how great it would be to pay the real world price of 32k for a petrol or diesel 3 series BMW. Thats what everyone oelse ont he plant pays for them...except Australia

Reckon I'll have to agree with you there.

And yeah, when I first saw the front image of the w427 I thoight 'gosh, its ugly, the cheaper clubsport and ss look better than that!"

[JD]

Its the sort of car that rich people go out, get drunk and wake up the next morning with it in their driveway and think "Damn, how drunk was I last night".

you remind me of Jeremy Clarkson with that remark! hahaha

[davey g-force]

The M5 in real dollar terms is half the price. The R35, half the price. The Evo X 1/5 of the price, DB9 similar price. This car certainly isn't a world beater. I would of loved to have seen maybe a 3.5-4.0 litre V10 with Carbon brakes and all the fancy suspension mods. If this is what HSV had done, i would of ordered one of these cars months ago, but lets face it, its just a GTS with a bigger motor, slightly larger brakes and almost double the price tag.

Minux, I agree with your comments, but what is this "real dollar terms" you keep talking about?

[1991_Vn2nV]

I think he means actual worth, so not including tariffs etc. (i.e. the price of an M5 in Germany or England, compared to the price of a W427 here...taking into account exchange rates).

[minux]

Minux, I agree with your comments, but what is this "real dollar terms" you keep talking about?

I think he means actual worth, so not including tariffs etc. (i.e. the price of an M5 in Germany or England, compared to the price of a W427 here...taking into account exchange rates).

Yep.

To buy an M5 in Australia without tariff's taxes etc would be 73k. Its bloody ridiculous really and about time something is done to make the car market so that we get what we pay for fairly.

[klaw81]

Yep.

To buy an M5 in Australia without tariff's taxes etc would be 73k. Its bloody ridiculous really and about time something is done to make the car market so that we get what we pay for fairly.

Anyone want to predict what would happen if all car tariffs were removed from imported cars? I'm guessing that Falcon would disappear within a couple years, and Commodore would follow it a model or two later, since they have exports to help prop them up.

The luxury car tax doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Why is it that expensive cars get taxed but other "luxuries" don't?

[minux]

Anyone want to predict what would happen if all car tariffs were removed from imported cars? I'm guessing that Falcon would disappear within a couple years, and Commodore would follow it a model or two later, since they have exports to help prop them up.

The luxury car tax doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Why is it that expensive cars get taxed but other "luxuries" don't?

Holden and Ford wouldnt disappear, they would simply have to make better quality cars for the same price tag. Heck if europe can make these cars at this price, why cant Australians? Our wage average isnt much different...

The luxury car tax is a joke, just as any tax is just because you can afford to pay for something. Any tax that works on how expensive something is should be removed, it serves no purpose except to milk money from those that can afford it.

[BANKS]

Big **** off ceramic brakes (talking 380mm+)
Aluminium and composite body panels
"flappy paddle" 6-7 speed clutchless manual
Magnetic suspension
Maybe even a 4wd system

^^^ thats what its missing from the list if it wants to compete with the WORLDS best.

Aston martin v8 vantage produces 420BHP from 4.7lts, yet 500 from 7lts for the w427. Someone must have left the gate open because there should be a **** load more horsies in the w427 paddock…