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    Ok everyone question, I have a Jarrah chopping board and can't decide if I should oil it or not and if so with what product.
    Everyone I speak to has a different opinion. Seems timber naturally kills any bacteria in the board and oiling it seals the surface and you loose this property. Others say an unsealed board will allow bacteria to soak in to the surface.
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    I'm no expert but personally I would definately oil it and continue to do so on a regular basis. I've always been taught that this is the proper way to use it, the wood is porous and if left untreated it will really absorb bacteria. Not just that but oiling it helps with the longevity of the chopping board because an unoiled board will soak up more water and other liquids making it more susceptible to warping and splitting.

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    the timber killing germs is a myth, so nothing to lose there. Wouldn't bother oiling it though.

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    if you're going to oil it make sure it's an oil that can be used around food

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    Dave, yes you should oil it.

    Used to use grapeseed oil once a month in my uncles restaurant. However, if its cracked, get rid of it.
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    I used to make cutting boards amongs other stuff. Definately oil it, but use a vegetable oil. Rub it on with a paper towel. Hope that helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Dave, yes you should oil it.

    Used to use grapeseed oil once a month in my uncles restaurant. However, if its cracked, get rid of it.
    Yeah we recommend grapeseed or pure tung oil to customers at work.

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    I've seen a test on TV, forget if it was myth busters or 60 minutes or what, but the result was that timber does kill bacteria when washed and left to dry. Plastic and glass boards were the worst.

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    This is something that I've done a bit of research on and what I've found is that you do not use a vegetable oil as these oils go rancid.
    There is an American company called John Boos who make "Authentic Boos Blocks Mystery Oil" - they also make chopping block and have so for years and years. The oil they sell is actually mineral oil. We use it on our blocks - we have 2 at home and our kids (7) who are all grown up also have blocks and use the oil (maybe 'cause I made the blocks for them and gave a bottle of oil)

    Anyway, do a GOOGLE for "chopping block oil" and see what comes up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hako View Post
    This is something that I've done a bit of research on and what I've found is that you do not use a vegetable oil as these oils go rancid.
    There is an American company called John Boos who make "Authentic Boos Blocks Mystery Oil" - they also make chopping block and have so for years and years. The oil they sell is actually mineral oil. We use it on our blocks - we have 2 at home and our kids (7) who are all grown up also have blocks and use the oil (maybe 'cause I made the blocks for them and gave a bottle of oil)

    Anyway, do a GOOGLE for "chopping block oil" and see what comes up.
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    As far as I know, Camphor Laurell is the only food safe timber used for chopping boards that naturally has anti-bacterial properties. For Jarrah i'd recommend cleaning it after each use and oiling every once in a while with olive oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cander24 View Post
    As far as I know, Camphor Laurell is the only food safe timber used for chopping boards that naturally has anti-bacterial properties. For Jarrah i'd recommend cleaning it after each use and oiling every once in a while with olive oil.
    Olive oil goes rancid mate.

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    Ok heres some industry research facts, from a guy in plastics :-

    Timber boards are porous. Anything on t he surface that is slightly fluid will 'wick' into the board. Oiling Reduces but does not totally stop this.

    in some instances, more dependant on the bacteria than on the wood, bacteria can actually grow / reproduce. Cleaning, oiling disinfecting can limit this, Choice of wood can also help limit this for a while, but eventually any anti-bacterial properties in the woods oils will be washed away.

    Glass boards are impervious to moisture. that means there is no retention of bacteria in the boards surface. If there is any bacteria remaining afterwards it's because of the quality of the cleaning regimen.

    Glass boards surface is extremely rough on a microscopic level, making them hard to clean well. They are also quite damaging to knives.

    Plastic boards should only be made from Polyethylene. Many other cheap plastics are used but not considered safe for direct contact with food. PETE (Poly Ethylene Terepthalate - also known as PETP) is Not a food safe material once it has been in contact with temperatures greater than 65 degrees as it may swell trapping moisture. Nylon falls into the same category. PVC can leach stabilisers into fluids. Polyproylene is food grade depending on TYPE, which they never tell you. recycled plastics should never ever ever be used as they may contain voids, allowing fluids to be trapped.

    Plastic boards have a relativley smooth impervious surface, which doesn't damage knives. However, knives can damage the surface of the board, creating pits and scores in which food residue can be trapped. If, after cleaning, any bacteria remains on a Plastic board, it's the quality of cleaning which is a problem, or the plastic used.

    Suffice it to say - there are only 2 materials allowed in industrial and commercial food processing plants, for direct contact with food. Stainless steel (grade 306 only) and Virgin Polyethylene (usually specified as High Density Polyethylene - HDPE).

    Of course there are specialty plastics that work as well. Virgin PTFE, POM, UHMWPE etc, but they are not as cost effective, so you don't see them.

    The easiest way to test this for yourself is very simple. Get one of each type of board. Drop a single drop of food dye in the middle. Rub it well into the board with a finger. Rinse off quickly. Check to see which one has least dye in place. That is the board that absorbs least and releases most contaminants - of any sort.

    By the way Do not trust any information published on the web from Specific plastic manufacturers. Companies like DOtmar EPP and similair often market their specific product under the banner of a plastic type. There version of a product such as ERTALYTE, which is a type of PETP, is not necessarily the same PETP someone else may be talking about. It's based on PETP yes, is it pure PETP - no. Plastics is a confusing industry
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    You need a certain amount of bacteria around anyway, it's the body's way of building up it's immune system. If you sterilize your environment too much you will get sick the minute you step out your front door.

    As long as you don't wipe the board down with a piece of raw chicken, you should be right.
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    Id throw away with the jarrah chopping block n get urself a laminated board that usually 1st year apprentices make in cabinetmaking (usually given away 2 markets ect...) otherwise u can make ur own, ask any cabinetmaker 2 keep their sink cut outs (may even have them layin around) as thats wats used neways. Nice timber (jarrah if u will) edging around the board and then sealed with some lacker and ur as good as cuttin on ur bench tops.

    That said if u wanna keep the jarrah board do as above post has mentioned
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx884 View Post
    Id throw away with the jarrah chopping block n get urself a laminated board that usually 1st year apprentices make in cabinetmaking (usually given away 2 markets ect...) otherwise u can make ur own, ask any cabinetmaker 2 keep their sink cut outs (may even have them layin around) as thats wats used neways. Nice timber (jarrah if u will) edging around the board and then sealed with some lacker and ur as good as cuttin on ur bench tops.

    That said if u wanna keep the jarrah board do as above post has mentioned
    I have very expensive knifes so I actually want a surface that will falter rather then the knife blade..........I have a granite board as well that I use with my crap knifes.

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    good knives make all the difference eh? i'd never cut on a sink cut out.... christ that bothers me to even think about!!!

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    Just leave it, so long as you dont chop meat and raw food on the same board you wont die

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