Adelaide protest rally please read if you care about motorsport in sa

[RUF-IDL]

Hi all, post this on all the forums you can at let everyone know!!! A website will soon be up and running with all the details.

There will be a public meeting being held in Pt Adelaide at 2pm on Sunday the 16th of August (location to be confirmed) at which all people who have an interest in the proposed Pt Adelaide Motorplex will have an opportunity to not only to hear from the consortium themselves, also from politicians, guest speakers etc.

This will be followed by a protest at Parliament House, Nth Tce in the city on Friday the 28th of August at 5pm that will bring the city to a standstill.

Police permits will be arranged and we expect total co-operation of the Police.

Everyone is to be on their best behavior as there will be a huge media presence. Bring your cars and your family. The events will be self policed so if you see someone doing something stupid that could harm the image of the modified car/motorsport community don't hesitate to report it.

We are an important part of the community and we (who do the right thing) deserve better treatment from the Media and the Government.

Consider this -

A footballer only has to purchase a Guernsey, shorts, some boots and pay his subs to play (the government and councils generally supply all the ovals and facilities).

Someone involved in modified cars/motorsport probably spends on average around $30,000 to 'play', whilst at the same time much of that money goes into local businesses creating jobs and apprenticeships.

Not only do we not have a place to play, we have a situation where by a private consortium, who wishes to build the track on the land the government offered them (and which the consortium offered to purchase or lease off of the government), with no taxpayer input required, has the offer knocked back because it will 'create more hoons on the public roads'.

If you want this Motorplex to become a reality, and can see all the positives for SA that will go with it, just spend a couple of hours of your life to attend the meeting and then the protest, making it one of the noisiest protests in SA history!

This is our one chance to show that we, the modified car/motorsport/business community are more than a just bunch of hoons who are a drain on society.

Enough is Enough!!!

Stay tuned for more news!



Regards,
The Street Machine Association of South Australia Team.

[2001_VXSS]

I WILL BE THERE FOR SURE!!! im sick of people like u's being classified as HOONS!!! WE ARE NOT!!!

[LUMPY 8]

Count me in.... Im sick of ppl saying im a hoon cause im on my Ps and i drive a v8. Atleast this way i can kinda prove im not.

I cant make the 1 on the 16 cause ill b getting ready 4 the WA side of the variety bash but i will try my hardest 2 get 2 the protest at Parliament House. Always wanted 2 get in a protest 4 some reason and this 1 seems like a good idea.
Also who the hell said this will make more hoons? If anything it will stop more hoons cause they will prefer 2 go 2 the track and have fun than risk their licence.

[mavro]

if im not working, I'LL BE THERE

[Steery]

If i'm not working, I'll be there.

Whats the bet the cops will line the streets to Port Adelaide with defect stations and be absolute assholes about the whole thing.

[STEALTHY™]

If i'm not working, I'll be there.

Whats the bet the cops will line the streets to Port Adelaide with defect stations and be absolute assholes about the whole thing.

Hence why i wont be there

[RUF-IDL]

If i'm not working, I'll be there.

Whats the bet the cops will line the streets to Port Adelaide with defect stations and be absolute assholes about the whole thing.

drive the stocker down! il drive my hottie down though thats what its all about fredom to drive what we choose to! not everyone wants to drive a white camry lol

[minux]

drive the stocker down! il drive my hottie down though thats what its all about fredom to drive what we choose to! not everyone wants to drive a white camry lol

I was unaware driving unroadworthy cars was a freedom? I was also unaware driving was a freedom, last I heard using the roads was a privilege, the quicker some people get this through their thick skulls, the quicker we can move on to more pressing issues.

Seriously, if people think tracks will stop hoons you are downright delusional. It hasn't worked in QLD, hasn't worked in NSW, hasn't worked in Vic. Last I heard I didnt know of any street racing tossers who stopped at a set of lights and a conversation that went

Dickless Street Racer 1: Hi street racer 1, want to race?
Dickless street racer 2: Yeh that would be sweet!
Dickless street racer 1: Well see you at the track friday night!

Both cars slowly travel off into the distance.

Seriously, thats Alice in Wonderland shit right there. I am all for people having nice cars, but expecting government to hand over land to build a complex will have the same effect as asking for every dollar in tax you pay back.

Until peoples mentalities evolve(not expecting many too for a long time) the government will keep getting harder and harder on the modified car scene.

[RUF-IDL]

who said i was driving an unroadworthy car? were ALL being targeted as hoons by the media here. laws have been passed to crush cars which im all for if its some one being a hoon but how do you define a hoon?? what would you have us do? sit down and do nothing?

i havent had a speeding fine in 10 years but these laws will affect me!! the protest is about making it known were not going to sit down and take it. theres always going to be tosses in ever aspect of life were just wanting to show we are not them

the people behind the track are NOT asking for a handout of land they are BUYING IT at a place the government offered as the prefered place to have the complex situated.

it wont cost the taxpayer a cent as they have the money to build it

please have a read of this link as it explains it better

Sensational-Adelaide.com • View topic - #Proposed : $25m Motorsport Complex (Garden Island)

or heres a page to give you the general idea...........................


Re: #Proposed : $25m Motorsport Complex (Garden Island)
by Sir Lustalot » Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:38 am

Hello ye Strangled Cat,

Firstly re AIR, ANDRA (Australian National Drag Racing Association, affiliated with CAMS and the FIA) Championship Drag Racing finished in 2000 as the owner of the track wanted to run his own events with his own insurance policy that, as has since been proven, unfortunately didn't cover everyone (Mods - I can substantiate this claim, PM me if you wish). The track also didn't meet the required safety standards for ANDRA insurance.

In October 2005 a charity event was organized to help get all the relevant parties back together. The event was attended by over 30,000 and raised around $200,000 for the Burns Trust, Mary Potter Hospice and the Freemasons. Some track improvements were made to gain sanction from ANDRA. This included a temporary concrete wall borrowed from the Clipsal 500 running down the infield lane (where there was nothing after 1/3 track) through to the end of the breaking area, as well as significant changes to ensure crowd safety. The track surface itself still had issues, ie - very bumpy and some (non - rain) days you could jump up and down on the track surface and water would come up between the cracks due to its poor construction and proximity to the water table. Not good for high powered cars and certainly contributed to a number of accidents and near misses. After the October meeting another event was held in November with some Pro-Stock cars. Around 7pm that evening the timing system failed and there has been no racing since.

As for the Pt Adelaide rally on Adelaide Cup Day last year (43C that day!) we had around 10,000 attend with around 8000 signatures collected in the day (the kids couldn't sign), with, I think, around 15,000 more collected since then, I'll correct it with an edit if I'm wrong. I was involved in the organization of the event and considering we only had two weeks to organize it, only used word of mouth, Internet, a few posters to promote it and the ridiculously hot weather that day, we were all pleased with the outcome.

Mark Butler, Labor MP for Pt Adelaide was aware of the rally and tabled it in Fed Parliament during general business highlighting the lack of a Drag Racing facility in SA. We have to remember that the Perth and Sydney tracks were State Government funded and are run as a (profitable) commercial business. In June last year the Federal Gov announced $3mil for the upgrading of Darwin's Drag Strip while the previous Federal Gov gave around $1mil to build a new Drag Strip in Alice Springs. For three separate governments to spend over $40mil on drag strips, and have the venues operating at a profit and delivering all that they promised during the respective feasibility studies etc. you have to wonder why here in Adelaide we can't seem to get approval to build this privately funded track, which will return to the state all the benefits these interstate tracks have given their respective areas, less the taxpayers money to begin with (takes breath and thumps desk )

Everything seemed plodding along with the efficiency only the SA Gov can deliver , when just after the Clipsal 500 there was the accident with those guys racing on Magill Rd. Out of nowhere Tom K started ranting about the State Gov not supporting a Drag Strip as it would only encourage more of this behaviour, and in doing so managed to 'severely annoy' the many thousands of South Australians who have modified cars, racecars and in buisinesses that rely on motorsport related interests. It's worth noting he was the only member to speak out against the track, Libs being for the venue and Labor not saying anything. Later he conceded on Fresh FM that he wasn't against the venue if it was privately funded, just against Gov or Road Safety money going towards it. Not that it's needed, but it was certainly a different story to what he was saying on 5AA on the days before and after, after speaking on Fresh!

That being said we can only hope this project can now be assessed professionally and hopefully the Gov will realize the benefits this venue can deliver to SA and has already been proven as being a growing, popular sport here and overseas.


Cheers,


cheers pete

[Jesterarts]

Dickless Street Racer 1: Hi street racer 1, want to race?
Dickless street racer 2: Yeh that would be sweet!
Dickless street racer 1: Well see you at the track friday night!

Both cars slowly travel off into the distance.

Seriously, thats Alice in Wonderland shit right there.

Brilliant

[TVR-190]

if it was nsw id be there in my guy fawkes mask

[bezz]

So all the bogans are heading to town to protest? Looks like I now know where not to be on the 28th of august at 5pm.

[Steery]

Minux, seriously everyone who thinks that a track will stop hoons is a retard.

HOWEVER, as STEALTHY has said on countless occasions, they are tightening the laws to crazy levels without giving people an alternative. How can they expect to separate the hoons and idiots from the enthusiasts without a track?

Let the private track go ahead, then tighten the laws as much as you want. The people that do it on the track are the ones that the government and police do not need to worry about. The ones that continue to do it on the road always have been, and it seems; always will be, ****ing idiots that need to be caught and punished. Not the rest of us.

[Jesterarts]

I agree that the government blocking a private track is stupid. On one had they are saying how they are trying to deal with the "hooning" etc. And on the other they are blocking plan that MIGHT ease the problem in that area.

What I don't agree with is the mentality of "they don't give us an alternative".

What? An alternative to breaking the law? Here's the alternative... DON'T break the law! lol.

If you're not in an area where you have access to a track or strip... that sucks, go find a new hobby.

I'm sorry, but why I don't get why car "enthusiasts" think they deserve a track every 5km they can go to an play while I for example don't have a painball facility 5min from my house.

Both activities are illegal outside of a designated facility and both don't REALLY hurt anybody.

In this particular instance, I DO agree with those of you saying its rubbish that the goverment is blocking the track.

But on the whole, I personally don't agree with the whole "No body has built me track to go to so I will go do skids on public roads because I think I deserve to be allowed to do what I like, where I like."

And this mentallity is haft the problem, first you piss tax payers off by doing burnouts all over the shop and then you expect those same tax payers to back your cause to get a track.

Like punching someone in the mouth and then asking if you can borrow some money from them for boxing lessons.

[Steery]

That isn't the mentality, well it may be for some.

Murder is illegal everywhere, this is only illegal on public roads. They want to separate the hoons from the enthusiasts? Give us an alternative, because it will make the difference apparent.

[Jesterarts]

So you're saying you think it's ok for you to do burnouts and race on public roads because you don't have anywhere to it legally?

[Pub247]

Jesterarts your saying that the people who want the track are the ones doing burnouts and street racing?? Where is the basis in fact for your arguement?
I dont see anywhere where steery wrote that he was doing any of that on the roads so i dont know why you'd make that above statement as your obviously making assumptions and twisting words to suit your arguement.

I Don't agree that having a track will stop hooning

Nor do i agree that having a track will increase the problem.

Why should a group of people be denyed facilities and abilities to follow their passions? if its because people out there generalise and label them into a sterotype .
Sounds very similar to racism when you look at it that way We are not a 3rd world country and most other states have these facilities so why cant SA??
God it might not have even cost the goverment money

[Holdens Rule]

This will cop some flack but what the hell. Some guys reckon build a track for guys that want to be hoons (and those that aren't) so in a sense lets reward them. Now what do we do with guys that want to be rapists, murderers child molesters etc etc. Different crime but it is still a crime so do we reward them with free passes to brothels and shooting ranges? How about everyone tries do the right thing and then when it ain't front page news lobby the government for a track? I reckon that might be a little more successful.

[CANYONERO]

i think this thread should be closed, were making no headway here what so ever. Lots of people here want one and this is a way of getting behind it and maybe getting the ball rolling. i will be there to support this cause because i believe it is a worthy one.

So if you're in SA and you want a track, sitting at home isnt going to do anything, comeout and support it. Show the community the vast majority arent hoons but infact enthusiasts.

Hoons isnt what this is about, i couldnt care less about hoons and hoon laws. this is about people that are into cars having somewhere to go.

[Jesterarts]

Jesterarts your saying that the people who want the track are the ones doing burnouts and street racing?? Where is the basis in fact for your arguement?
I dont see anywhere where steery wrote that he was doing any of that on the roads so i dont know why you'd make that above statement as your obviously making assumptions and twisting words to suit your arguement.

I Don't agree that having a track will stop hooning

Nor do i agree that having a track will increase the problem.

Why should a group of people be denyed facilities and abilities to follow their passions? if its because people out there generalise and label them into a sterotype .
Sounds very similar to racism when you look at it that way We are not a 3rd world country and most other states have these facilities so why cant SA??
God it might not have even cost the goverment money

No, what I am getting at is that the main reason most people in this thread have given for gettin more tracks is to give people an "alternative" to doing illegal burnouts.

This is what I'm getting at, the reason for a track shouldn't be an alternative to breaking the law as the law shouldn't be broken in the first place.

SO if that is the primary arguement for the track, it's not a very good one.

And then the other key arguement is that as a group, this is they hobby these individuals have chosen and therefore the government should accomodate their hobby.

And I sort of hit a dilema here, these people who say their hobby is racing and doing burnouts, if they are whinging about not having somewhere to do this hobby safely. Then how did they take this up as a hobby? You can't have a hobby unless you do it. And if it's their hobby but that don't have access to a track, this means they have decided to take this hobby up illegally, on public roads?

Am I missing something?

Finally, since the general vibe seems to be that the goverment should foot the bill for these facilities in most cases, I would like those of you who think you deserve these facilities to go down to your local hospital, find a terminally ill patient with cancer and tell them that unfortunately this year their pain killer medication costs will not be covered by the goverment because you deserve to have a skidpad.

Beleive me, I do see the upside to having tracks and skid pads, mainly because they could also be used for advanced driver training and so forth. But I have yet to see a single arguement to justify why there is actually someone out there that deserves access this sort of facility.

On that note, this is not the subject of this thread. The subject here is the government blocking a private development of such a facility, which I don't agree with and am on the "enthusiasts" side of the fence on this one.

[minux]

Let the private track go ahead, then tighten the laws as much as you want. The people that do it on the track are the ones that the government and police do not need to worry about. The ones that continue to do it on the road always have been, and it seems; always will be, ****ing idiots that need to be caught and punished. Not the rest of us.

I don't think even the government is stopping a private track being built are they? They are just refusing to hand over crown land for its use? I fail to see why this is an issue, buy the land, develop the track.

If people want to race around, why don't people get together and do track days at lala? Private hire day, you can use the circuit for whatever you want. The facilities that are around are not being used to full potential, sure you may have to travel, but if what exists isn't being over run, how can the government warrant handing over land to people who say they will use them?

[RUF-IDL]

you cant just build a track it has to go through planing permission,land management council,epa just to name a few of the hurdles unfortunatly its not as easy as "weve got the money now lets build it"

as for hoons theres no silver bullet to fix the problem.

all i can offer is if you want to help get a track attend the meetings if you dont thats no problem eigher the choice is yours.

cheers

[hakhawk]

this shit just goes on and on.

if you want to try and help, goto the rally, if you dont, then stay home.