house fire

[weedo_86]

im from mernda region 14... 10 mins out of whittlesea so that means first response on black saturday not very nice

[nemesis_adrasteia]

im from mernda region 14... 10 mins out of whittlesea so that means first response on black saturday not very nice

yeah i was over in churchill black saturday it was pretty scary there, i thought the town was gone.

[Hunter SS]

So they weren't trying to do a job?

ok... so we are going to hit every answer with another question.....

yes they were trying to do a job.... but how would you feel if it was your house we were trying to save and a bunch of precious truckies complained about it? or it was one of your relatives that we have to remove from a crushed vehicle and then having to deal with the mental anguish after?
I think you are missing the point.

dont think i know anyone around here thats moved up there. are his methods any different to yours? were a pretty small although possibly the best funded brigades. one tanker and one slip on. mostly rural stuff. but increasing amout of houses so its inevitable that we will see this kind of thing more often. we also have the esso gas and oil plants out here so if anything goes bang were first on scene, it happened once before(about 10 years ago). we get a few MVAs drink drivers and idiot tourists going round corners too fast, or that indonesian bloke who rolled his falcon on a nice straight bit of road. you see some pretty nasty stuff on the job but you still gotta do it.

Nearly all his qualifications are recognised australia wide, so once his application went through he became fully active.

[greenfoam]

So they weren't trying to do a job?

Yes they were, delivering usless crap that nobody really needs

[AirStrike]

ok... so we are going to hit every answer with another question.....

yes they were trying to do a job.... but how would you feel if it was your house we were trying to save and a bunch of precious truckies complained about it? or it was one of your relatives that we have to remove from a crushed vehicle and then having to deal with the mental anguish after?
I think you are missing the point.



Nearly all his qualifications are recognised australia wide, so once his application went through he became fully active.

I understand what you are saying but you are simply fobing off the fact that they also have a job to do. Surely you need to look at operating procedures if you have to block roads for 3-7hrs with no way to divert traffic.

[nemesis_adrasteia]

I understand what you are saying but you are simply fobing off the fact that they also have a job to do. Surely you need to look at operating procedures if you have to block roads for 3-7hrs with no way to divert traffic.

most of the time traffic can be diverted but in some situatioss its just not possible, also around here we(the cfa) arent allowed to divert trafficwe can tell them to stop but if we tell the to go another way to and they have an accident they can sue us. we always wait for police to divert traffic

[soop]

You've got to be kidding me, surely a traffic accident takes precedent over some whinging truck drives. Use a brain ffs.

[Bax]

Slightly off topic, but I'm all for dash mounted cams in emergency service vehicles - and 500 dollar fines for anyone that doesn't show enough initiative to get out of the way.

[nemesis_adrasteia]

Slightly off topic, but I'm all for dash mounted cams in emergency service vehicles - and 500 dollar fines for anyone that doesn't show enough initiative to get out of the way.

its pretty annoying when people dont get out of the way, its pretty hard to miss the red and blue flashing lights. some people are just stupid though

[Torquative]

yeh but in NSW it doesnt take much to cripple a highway and put it out of action, every year when Kuringai goes up the F3 between Sydney and Newcastle is guaranteed to be closed at some point due to smoke or flames too close to the road which in turn affects transport between Sydney and Newcastle/Brisbane and beyond or the other way round.

Just a fact of life, it gets frustrating for both sides of the fence.

[soop]

Pacific highway on the far north coast of NSW. Must have been closed at least 10times last year due to fatal accidents.

[Hunter SS]

most of the time traffic can be diverted but in some situatioss its just not possible, also around here we(the cfa) aren't allowed to divert traffic we can tell them to stop but if we tell the to go another way to and they have an accident they can sue us. we always wait for police to divert traffic

technically we can't either...... we are directed to "just block the highway" as our SOP.... but we can control the flow of traffic under the guidance of a ticketed person, like a council worker with a traffic control certificate. We have 2 of them in my brigade.
Usually in the interest of safety, if needed i get 2 of my guys on the lollipops to slow traffic and control the flow.

[msina1]

we have had a problem with a suburb in g-town with deliberate lit fires and people are still inside asleep in some that have burnt. i have utmost respect for fire fighters no matter if your a volunteer or not and respect for police, ambos, ses, just people who put their lives on the line to help others.

i take it you were talking about that clifton springs fire? shame about that,

[FstStig]

Some people do these things (Or get other people to do these things) for the insurance. I'm not implying this is the case in this matter, just saying it does happen.

[rickybobby]

whining truckies ???

everybody has a job trying to breathe.

what exactly makes one human being (self appointed guardian or otherwise) more important than another ?