WARNING SA. New Sizing laws -2" deleted - not what you thought

[acex1138]

Ok a lot of people have been rejoicing over the new law which most of the cops I know, especially in road didnt seem to know anything about.

Deleting the 2" law has been making some rejoice thinking they can stick bigger ones on as long as the weight ratio and all that other crap is ok.

Got word yesterday road traffic have been briefed on it (these are the guys that are going to defect you), word is they are going after people with 2" above tyre limit and peope who think the new laws let them put 20's on 15's if the weight allows.

Apparantly they have a method with the new system to pretty much slap you about if you have more then 1" above size, I got given a pretty big heads up about this, even if you have a report from an engineer stating your car is ok for it they will still regency you.

Their method at this point for working out your rims will be looking at the plate and if its above 1" (and if they dont like you) is to use a measuring tape on it (which apparantly isnt the right way to do it but they are doing it anyway to max out on people they can do).

And a lot of the cops will have no freaking clue what they are doing.

The other emphasis is they will just use this as a starting point, as officers will "Make sure there are other defects once finding the wheels are too big".

Traffic div apparantly nabbed 20 people last week one of them who even got a letter stating his rims where within the confines and they still found a way to keep him defected. so just a heads up, this is not a scare tactic its coming from a cop who i trust and looks out for me to make sure i dont get hitup by stupid things like this that we werent informed well on.

Keep everyone posted if I hear more

[davway]

since you got a 'pretty big heads up' you could explain it a little more clearly with more details as to how they are going to defect you for 1' bigger.
what method?
use a tape measure on what to do what with?

[acex1138]

he reckons putting a tape measure across the tyre.... which makes little sense

[Stressball]

I'm guessing that they are going by teh same rule most states now have; rolling diameter must be as standard.

[NickVR]

Then why did regency tell me I can go as big as I want providing the rolling diameter did not change by more than 15mm and the load rating is same as standard or higher? And it does not hit on any compnents on the car (eg. guards, suspension etc.). I know that they can defect you for anything if they want anyway but this is the law that is written so how can they say that you are breaking it?

Apparantly they have a method with the new system to pretty much slap you about if you have more then 1" above size, I got given a pretty big heads up about this, even if you have a report from an engineer stating your car is ok for it they will still regency you.

Spoke to an engineer regarding this too and he said that yes they can defect you but it's pointless cos if you have the paper and the mods listed on a signed certificate then you can get through with out any change. He works for an engineer that is recommended by regency too.

[acex1138]

well regency are experts this is coming from the traffic cops, as i said they arent the best at their job, so you can be completely in the right and STILL get forced to pay to go to regency.

[finny71]

good old sa laws change more than hj menus what will they comeout next... most likely all cars have a min speed of 70k so thay can book ya soon as you get on the road. oh well still love this state but the government can P.O.Q

[BaggedVL]

I was running 18inch (16inch stock) rims on my car, 9inch wide rears with 275 tyres...

cops didn't care about the width, or the fact that my track width was about 4cm too wide, they were too busy defecting me for ride height haha

[gareth89]

are you a police officer or within that area???

[ClairBear]

he reckons putting a tape measure across the tyre.... which makes little sense

You say 'he' which indicates you have got this information off of one person, who could well be wrong.

It is bothersome when people listen to a mate, who could be full of the brown sticky stuff, and then start spreading the supposedly true information around.

Personally when it comes to legal matters and defects, I like to stick to the written laws and not information gathered off the net from vague sources.

Cheers.

[BaggedVL]

You say 'he' which indicates you have got this information off of one person, who could well be wrong.

It is bothersome when people listen to a mate, who could be full of the brown sticky stuff, and then start spreading the supposedly true information around.

Personally when it comes to legal matters and defects, I like to stick to the written laws and not information gathered off the net from vague sources.

Cheers.

no, it makes sense though...

you're allowed to have a tyre thats 15mm bigger in diameter, so, getting the cops to measure with a tape measure, and if its more than 25mm bigger, then chances are it really is more than 15 when calculated properly.

there is of course the fact that I thought everyone already knew this?

just like your track width must be +-25mm from standard.

[greenfoam]

No doubt he's messuring the total diameter of the tyre and you got confused or he did . Big rims are OK

[acex1138]

well as i have pointed out, they dont really know what they are doing, as far as they are concearend they can book u for whatever they feel like this is just another excuse.

I cant name the officer but this is coming from someone who's gonna be on your ass about it (highup in traffic division). Right now they are targeting two main things, as pointed out above ride height, and rim/tyres.

Its just a friendly heads up to everyone, they will be using every bit of new legislation and their own stupidity to do you in... my advice.... wait for a bit until you slap your PERFECTLY legal wheels on the car, being someone who had a perfectly legal 240 (before i had my VR) defected by a cop who didnt know stuff and exploited the laws.

Everything was fine with the car, still had to pay to take it in, still had to pay for inspections still had downtime to take it in, all of it wasting lots of my time and money which is why im mentioning all of this.

[BXHD]

I was running 18inch (16inch stock) rims on my car, 9inch wide rears with 275 tyres...

cops didn't care about the width, or the fact that my track width was about 4cm too wide, they were too busy defecting me for ride height haha

how do u fit 9" wide on ur vl?
mine are only 8" and when i have a full car and go over a bump, if makes a really bad noise like the rubber on the gard or something.. lol.

[NickVR]

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[BaggedVL]

how do u fit 9" wide on ur vl?
mine are only 8" and when i have a full car and go over a bump, if makes a really bad noise like the rubber on the gard or something.. lol.

not on the VL.

I wouldn't bother with good tyres on a commodore

[vswags]

had a mate call up a place to get his wheels engineered (19s on stock 16) and they said as long as the rolling diameter is within 15mm of the standard rolling diameter and the tryre rating suit the car it will be legal. so the guy said there is no point engineering his car as it is within the legal requirments.

this information is coming from an engineering place so id presume that it is true but best thing to do would be to call the number on the back of a defect notice to clarify.

[SIG-054]

ahh who cares they are going to defect me for ride height anyways lol

[Troy5L]

just get a tyre placard off ebay, stating ur vehicle came out with 17's?

[Jezza]

i knew the rule was to good to be true because i wanted to put 18" wheels on my vl and with that rule gone i thought sweet i can start saving for the rims but i think its a bit hard to find a 16" tyre placard for a vl

[BaggedVL]

i knew the rule was to good to be true because i wanted to put 18" wheels on my vl and with that rule gone i thought sweet i can start saving for the rims but i think its a bit hard to find a 16" tyre placard for a vl

...i have no idea what you're talking about...

[acex1138]

RTA traffic school when i did my dac course had a pretty solid warning about switching plates.

I had this discussion with the cop earlier where he warned me about doing it, it apparantly takes them 1 minute to lookup the car type on the system, the plate may fool them 9/10 but if you get hitup by a cop who does a search on the computer for the vehicle type, or you get this cop imparticular who knows ride sizes, you are pretty much screwed, and then you get done for tampering with the plate as well.

Like they all say, if in doubt regency will decide, either way its being paid for with your time and money.

[mraero2u]

look guys, cops will defect you for anything they want if they want to... they have that power. Stand your ground dontg do anything stupid to start off with and attract attention , dont go on illegal cruises like rck etc where your put in the spot light , keep your tires good and everything working, ARGUE the point and dont be intimidated by them. my car is slammed on 18's 3 sizes bigger than stock it has a monster tacho and b&m shifter gilmer drive all the goodies they love, i get pulled up, i get out cocky ask them whats up, cut them off tell them no worries and i'm on my merry way. cops are control freaks they are them geeks at school you used to pick on getting there revenge..

[ClairBear]

Stand your ground

ARGUE the point and dont be intimidated by them.

i get pulled up, i get out cocky ask them whats up, cut them off

Most here will agree this is shocking advice and the best way to ensure you will get defected or booked.

Like it or not, they have a job to do and being cooperative and non argumentative is the best approach when dealing with the Police.

[ducker85]

mate no sh*t.

A police office is not a mechanic and if it doesn't look right weather legal or not, as the owner of the vechical you have to prove it is. Now you have to prove this to regency park even if your car is 100% legal with engineers report and excemption letters from transport SA. YOU CAN AND WILL STILL GETS DEFECTED and possible even pass regency without having to change a single part/mod, just get get defected the week after by another police officer. it's just the way it is.