Wave of EFT skimmers nets hundreds of thousands of dollars in wa. $300 being mine.

[benjamino]

Dont know if all you guys over east have heard, but over the last few days there has been a huge number of accounts frauded and skimmed resulting in perpetrators netting about $500,000 so far.
I used an eft machine in the macas drive thru yesterday, and this morning, checked my acc. balance online and had this come up 3 times in my account

ATM CTR DACHATS VAUDREUIL VA VAUDREUIL withdrawal $109.87

so my account balance read -$191.09 as i had some money in there

so very gay. the vaudreuil or whatever is a hotel in canada, i googled, so someones spending my hard earned Aussie currency in Canada somewhere!
Kinda makes me pretty dam angry and feel a little bit helpless, and very very, paranoid about how safe my coin is and withdrawing money or making purchases ANYWHERE

but hey, i get the money back in a few days from the bank who i spoke to this morning, so its technically the banks money.

But still.
Sneaky bastards.

[STEALTHY™]

How the **** to they setup a skimming device on an maccas eft system. Report it, and then whoever it is will be found easily because they have to actually put the thing onto the eft unit.

[Calaber]

It's more likely that they have skimmed the data from a previous transaction, not the Macca's one the night before. I think even the cleverest crooks need a bit of time to put the info to use. (but don't quote me - I have been wrong before!)

[benjamino]

ive spoken to a few people i know and have had their sht stolen who went to the same macas, what they do, apparently, is place a black strip or similar somewhere on the unit that registers data then at the end of the day drive back thru and retrieve it.

so ud think theyll look to see whos been thru twice that day :/

someones done it when they werent watching.
but meh.
some ppl out there are just completely farkin retarded.haha

[STEALTHY™]

Has it been reported tho? Not sure how long they keep their footage for.....

[benjamino]

ive reported it to my bank, and am calling the cops in a bit with my bank details etc.
havent called the macas yet.

[STEALTHY™]

ive reported it to my bank, and am calling the cops in a bit with my bank details etc.
havent called the macas yet.

That would have been the first thing I did. Why havn't you yet?

[benjamino]

i spoke to the bank and she said 'oh you didnt go thru a mcas drive thru did you' i said uhhh yeah howdyu know?

she says oh weve had heaps of these come thru today i told her it was maddington so i assume if the bank knows, macas would obviously know.

[acarmody]

The latest scammer fad is a device that can read those chips in your cards, and they can do it from about 10 or so metres away. So all they have to do is walk down the mall and bingo, thousands of cards worth of data.

[STEALTHY™]

The latest scammer fad is a device that can read those chips in your cards, and they can do it from about 10 or so metres away. So all they have to do is walk down the mall and bingo, thousands of cards worth of data.

But that data is useless without a pin number....

Also whats the deal with the - funds, once mine hits zero, nothing else can be obtained. Maybe you guys should look into that if its a problem.

[Jesterarts]

You can't read the chip without contacting it same as you can't read the magentic strip as neither device is a wireless device. Same as you can't swipe a card wirelessly.

The chip is not active until it is connected to a reader device, until then it's a piece of metal.

Sucks about the skimmers though, is there some sort of policy that if you can prove it wasn't you then you get the money back or?

[minux]

This is why I use a credit card for everything. I have insurance on it, so anything like this is covered. Using only a debit card in these times with no real backup from banks is silly. If i Need cash, I go into the bank and withdraw it from my account.

No way in hell I would ever use a debit card...too dangerous with no coverage.

[danja]

Generally, the way the system works is a certain person or group's job will be to collect card details, either by skimming or getting keyloggers onto people's computers. They'll collect hundreds of card details and sell them, often for as little as a few dollars per card, onto another group of people, who will either use the numbers in various ways to get money, or the more advanced groups will use the skimmed data and write them onto blank cards, essentially copying your card. These then get used like a regular card.

There is however often weeks or months in between when your card gets skimmed/logged, and it gets put to use elsewhere, so it's extremely unlikely the Macca's drivethru stole your details, it quite probably happened weeks ago. Skimmers are most often placed on ATMs, it's impractical to place them elsewhere.

[DANNY8]

No way in hell I would ever use a debit card...too dangerous with no coverage.

At work last night some kids handed in a debit card. They told me (dunno why??) that they tried getting money out from an ATM but couldn't guess the pin...and yeah they gave it to me coz they found it outside my servo. They didn't realise it was a debit card tho and could of used it to buy up on anything (alot of places don't care about checking signatures) depending on how much the cardholder had in their account lol.

[axemurderer101]

just found out today somehow somebody got to my brothers account and got everything out of it which was about $500 and some family friends had about $3000 stolen so i would suggest not use eftpos for a while.

[Joey_21]

thats y i never keep more then a hundred in there and i usually round it off to say 100$ or 80$ that way i no if someones takin any

[minux]

At work last night some kids handed in a debit card. They told me (dunno why??) that they tried getting money out from an ATM but couldn't guess the pin...and yeah they gave it to me coz they found it outside my servo. They didn't realise it was a debit card tho and could of used it to buy up on anything (alot of places don't care about checking signatures) depending on how much the cardholder had in their account lol.

So? I have insurance for this exact thing, it isnt my money being stolen, its the banks

[STEALTHY™]

So a debit card is different to my normal bank card? Whats the deal?

[minux]

So a debit card is different to my normal bank card? Whats the deal?

A debit card is simply any card issued by a bank to access your account.

[STEALTHY™]

A debit card is simply any card issued by a bank to access your account.

Thought so, so how is it that they can take money when the account has nothing in it? (re the op being minus $190 odd). Anytime i've used it with too high an amount, its declined.

[Grennan]

Debit cards you dont need to use a pin number for because it acts the same way as a credit card. So if they skimmed a debit card number they can punch it over the net and buy up whatever they like, whereas a eftpos/regular atm card is useless without a pin number.

I think

[HAZZA-VN]

This happened to my dad, he got a phone call from the bank curious to no why he transferred $75,000 into an interstate account, they followed it up it went to a Sydney account then to California hell gay, they retrieved it all good and well but fark knows how they got into dads online banking parents been making sure when using the stuff that its logged in for no longer than it has to be

[Grennan]

Sounds like their computer has spyware or something similar on it.

[HAZZA-VN]

Thought so, so how is it that they can take money when the account has nothing in it? (re the op being minus $190 odd). Anytime i've used it with too high an amount, its declined.

if they withdraw in one go, its all good it takes 5/20 minutes or something to process through the bank so you could have $300 n if the banks setup is going slow it might register as being $300 for a few minutes were they can over draw a few times n fark of before u no

[HAZZA-VN]

Sounds like their computer has spyware or something similar on it.

yeh the computer was re formatted n everything nothing was found on the computer though, but its all bullshit some real sleezy bastards out there there computer skills could go to much better use