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    Hey guys, take note of the new Victorian Road Rules That start Today, Don't know if there is a thread on this if this you can Close This Thread down

    Mobile phones and visual display units Using a mobile phone to make or receive a phone call while driving is prohibited except if the phone

    .Child restraints All children under seven years of age must wear a child restraint or booster seat when travelling in a car for improved safety. The type of restraint will depend on the age of the chilld

    U-Turns and overtaking A driver will not be able to overtake, or do a U-turn across a single continuous centre line, or a single continuous line to the left of a broken lines

    Seatbelts It is the responsibility of the driver to ensure that all passengers in the car are wearing a seatbelt or a child restraint

    Motorcyclists There are three new rules for motorcyclists

    . Cyclists The changes are about the helmet and using the proper seat for bicycle passengers, and for cyclists turning from, and stopping in, bicycle boxes at intersections with traffic signals

    Wheeled recreational devices Scooters, skateboards and roller blades are called Wheeled Recreational Devices in the road rules

    Drivers Whilst all of the new road rules affect drivers, these rules are additional new road safety rules particularly for drivers

    Driving with trams When sharing the road with trams, a driver must stop before passing the rear of a stopped tram at a tram stop. Once the tram doors are closed and pedestrians have crossed between the tram and kerb, a driver may then proceed at no more than 10 km/h past the tram
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    Stopping to park in a slip lane or on a painted island will be prohibited.

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    Centre dividing line
    A driver will not be able to overtake (see example A ), or do a U-turn across a single continuous centre line (see example B), or a single continuous line to the left of a broken line.

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    This one is going to cause absolute chaos in Melbourne, especially waiting for drivers that attempt to parallel park. Ludicrous law change. In fact, in any city that has single lanes in towns and parallel parking it will be a nightmare.

    Vic really need to introduce some common sense law changes like turning left at a red light when safe to do so.
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    did they . went out ealrier today and watched the same car change lanes three times when approaching the traffic lights crossing a solid white line three times in doing so ...... well done camary driver ,

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    speaking to a cop at fire brigade the other week, he said the one that is going to catch most people (even themselves) is the white line one.

    the phone one to me is abit weird.... so i am meant to buy a phone holder thingy just to put my phone in?, instead of me having it on my passenger seat, or in the console area under the stereo.
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    in your console or the passenger seat is fine , its when those who use their phone for gps and hands free ..

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    we got new rules in sa a little while back except ours are just stupid.. like not to have an animal on your lap whilst riding a push bike.. also got hit with the 'no fog lights'

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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    This one is going to cause absolute chaos in Melbourne, especially waiting for drivers that attempt to parallel park. Ludicrous law change. In fact, in any city that has single lanes in towns and parallel parking it will be a nightmare.

    Vic really need to introduce some common sense law changes like turning left at a red light when safe to do so.

    You think that is bad, going by this new rule i'm not aloud to over take tractors anymore... Guess Melba hwy is going to be fun, and going to love not being able to over take the people who sit on 60 in the 100 zones

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepz View Post
    You think that is bad, going by this new rule i'm not aloud to over take tractors anymore... Guess Melba hwy is going to be fun, and going to love not being able to over take the people who sit on 60 in the 100 zones
    Yeah its a joke huh? The clowns that come upw ith some of these rules should be shot.

    Speaking of the rules, was sitting in a P plate/police sandwich on my home from physio other day. P Plater gobbing off on the phone, window down, phone in right hand, arm hanging out window while talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sheepz View Post
    You think that is bad, going by this new rule i'm not aloud to over take tractors anymore... Guess Melba hwy is going to be fun, and going to love not being able to over take the people who sit on 60 in the 100 zones
    Well, the new rule here is not a joke. It's actually designed to cut collisions. Aimed at drivers who do not overtake when safe to do so and also people who do U turns over these lines. I can't remember the exact statistics, but a fair few collisions have involved people doing U turns over single solid lines.

    If everyone drove better then there'd be no need for these new rules.

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    U-turn/overtaking can't be done across unbroken lines? Don't park on painted islands? Kids wear seatbelts?

    Aren't these already rules??? What do you think the difference between broken/unbroken lines is if unbroken means "don't cross"? What is the point of a painted island if it doesn't mean you can't stop there?

    Seriously, this sounds like bloody common sense to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by danja View Post
    U-turn/overtaking can't be done across unbroken lines? Don't park on painted islands? Kids wear seatbelts?

    Aren't these already rules??? What do you think the difference between broken/unbroken lines is if unbroken means "don't cross"? What is the point of a painted island if it doesn't mean you can't stop there?

    Seriously, this sounds like bloody common sense to me!
    Before the 9th November a single solid line was treated as a broken line, just with more caution, and it was not advised to overtake or cross. Double lines was illegal. As of the 9th November the single solid line is to be treated as a double line, unless you are entering or leaving that road. The old rules weren't expressed clearly to everyone though which is why many people thought you weren't allowed to cross the single solid lines.

    Seatbelts, the main change is to make the driver respsonsible for everyone. No more of the rule that anyone over 16 is responsible for themselves. As well as tightening the rules on kids and babies in vehicles.

    Stopping on a painted island was allowed but discouraged, but now you can't even do it in an emergency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris E View Post
    i thought it was already illegal to overtake/cross a solid line?
    No, it was only illegal to cross a double solid line, or a double line of which your side is unbroken and the other side is broken.

    With this new law there really isnt' a need for any double solid lines anymore is there? They mean exactly the same thing as a single solid line.

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    This is getting F****** ridiculous. The driver gets a fine and 3 points if one of his/her passengers isn't wearing a seatbelt??? Whatever happened to taking responsibility for your own actions. How is the driver meant to be held responsible?? If the person decides to not wear a seatbelt and in the event of a crash, he is the only one to be injured or killed, it's his/her own fault! People need to start taking responsibility for themselves and their own actions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HamaTime View Post
    This is getting F****** ridiculous. The driver gets a fine and 3 points if one of his/her passengers isn't wearing a seatbelt??? Whatever happened to taking responsibility for your own actions. How is the driver meant to be held responsible?? If the person decides to not wear a seatbelt and in the event of a crash, he is the only one to be injured or killed, it's his/her own fault! People need to start taking responsibility for themselves and their own actions.

    This country is becoming a black hole of legislation, laws, rules, guidelines and control.
    BULLSHIT, someone who does not have a seatbelt on becomes like a pinball in a collision and in many collisions where people have not been wearing setbelts they have caused serious injury and even death to other occupants who were wearing seatbelts. They are not the only ones to be killed or injured!

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    No, it was only illegal to cross a double solid line, or a double line of which your side is unbroken and the other side is broken.

    With this new law there really isnt' a need for any double solid lines anymore is there? They mean exactly the same thing as a single solid line.
    There is still a use for double lines, just like the single solid, they are used as different levels of warning by VicRoads engineers, and by emergency services. The difference between a single solid line and a double solid line or even solid with broken can make a big difference to what an emergency vehicle can do safely. Also if they decide to adjust the laws in future they wont need to repaint all the road lines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alien View Post
    BULLSHIT, someone who does not have a seatbelt on becomes like a pinball in a collision and in many collisions where people have not been wearing setbelts they have caused serious injury and even death to other occupants who were wearing seatbelts. They are not the only ones to be killed or injured!
    Good point, and admittedly I hadn't thought of that. However, I still don't think that the driver should be taking the punishment for the actions of others. Personally, the laws don't affect me because none of the people who I drive around are stupid enough to not wear a seatbelt. If I am driving someone who doesn't then I make sure they put it on before I go anywhere. So I would never be caught out. It's the principle of the issue that bugs me. As I said before people have to take responsibility for their own actions
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    Listen to Alien, he is the king of police army uniforms around round a bouts. These rules will save lifes, but only if your wearing a nurses uniform while pretending to be a doctor!
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Listen to Alien, he is the king of police army uniforms around round a bouts. These rules will save lifes, but only if your wearing a nurses uniform while pretending to be a doctor!
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    I'm just curious about the fog light law.
    What is the difference between fog lights & driving lights?

    I thought fog lights had yellow lenses.
    Is it ok to drive with your driving lights on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HamaTime View Post
    Good point, and admittedly I hadn't thought of that. However, I still don't think that the driver should be taking the punishment for the actions of others. Personally, the laws don't affect me because none of the people who I drive around are stupid enough to not wear a seatbelt. If I am driving someone who doesn't then I make sure they put it on before I go anywhere. So I would never be caught out. It's the principle of the issue that bugs me. As I said before people have to take responsibility for their own actions
    Thing is, are you now meant to drive while keeping an eye on all your passengers to make sure they arent removing their belt AFTER you have seen them put it on? Sorry, there are too many ****wit drivers on the road for me to continually check all passengers have belts on.

    I would hope now with this rule in place that ADR's will be modified so that all new vehicles are fitted with seatbelt warnings for EVERY seatbelt in a vehicle? I mean, if this is for safety, surely this would be the next step...
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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Listen to Alien, he is the king of police army uniforms around round a bouts. These rules will save lifes, but only if your wearing a nurses uniform while pretending to be a doctor!
    Alien's peculiar clothing tendencies aside, I think everything he's said here is correct.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HamaTime View Post
    Good point, and admittedly I hadn't thought of that. However, I still don't think that the driver should be taking the punishment for the actions of others. Personally, the laws don't affect me because none of the people who I drive around are stupid enough to not wear a seatbelt. If I am driving someone who doesn't then I make sure they put it on before I go anywhere. So I would never be caught out. It's the principle of the issue that bugs me. As I said before people have to take responsibility for their own actions
    The driver of a vehicle has the responsibility of making the road safe for themselves and other road users. By placing the responsibility on them makes sense. No more of this over 16 years old and your responsible for yourself. Easy thing to do if someone doesn't put their seatbelt on is to just kick them out, no matter how good a mate. All my mates put a seatbelt on they know what can happen!

    If the driver gets fined they can always pressure the other person for money for the fine, and probably is less likely to take them driving in future, which is good, less likely to have unbelted occupants. This is seen as a stronger move as it hits the demerit points now, whereas previously it didn't, so there is more emphasis on it for everyone.

    Heres just a quick video showing this (sadly it happens too often): YouTube - No Seatbelt - Like Pinball

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    Quote Originally Posted by minux View Post
    Thing is, are you now meant to drive while keeping an eye on all your passengers to make sure they arent removing their belt AFTER you have seen them put it on? Sorry, there are too many ****wit drivers on the road for me to continually check all passengers have belts on.

    I would hope now with this rule in place that ADR's will be modified so that all new vehicles are fitted with seatbelt warnings for EVERY seatbelt in a vehicle? I mean, if this is for safety, surely this would be the next step...
    Exactly! how much stuff have you got to concentrate on whilst driving.

    1. Being careful of all the other ********s on the road
    2. Being careful not to exceed the speed limit by more than 3k's or get caught be a speed camera, fixed traffic camera or pulled over by the cops.
    3. Figure out where you are going
    4. Keeping an eye out on what the traffic is doing ahead to be ready for something to happen instantaneously.
    5. Talking with your passengers
    6. Making sure that your passengers seatbelts stay on permanently.
    Seriously, if this is the way the law is going, surely seatbelts for buses are next on the list? On my packed school bus coming home there were upwards of 110 kids on a 75 person licensed bus. Bus driver had to slam the brakes on on numerous occaisions which lead to hands being shoved on other peoples packages or boobs, or people flying down the bus only to be stopped by their face being mashed into the back of a chair or onto the supporting poles with the stop button on them.

    Quote Originally Posted by alien View Post
    The driver of a vehicle has the responsibility of making the road safe for themselves and other road users. By placing the responsibility on them makes sense. No more of this over 16 years old and your responsible for yourself. Easy thing to do if someone doesn't put their seatbelt on is to just kick them out, no matter how good a mate. All my mates put a seatbelt on they know what can happen!

    If the driver gets fined they can always pressure the other person for money for the fine, and probably is less likely to take them driving in future, which is good, less likely to have unbelted occupants. This is seen as a stronger move as it hits the demerit points now, whereas previously it didn't, so there is more emphasis on it for everyone.

    Heres just a quick video showing this (sadly it happens too often): YouTube - No Seatbelt - Like Pinball
    Don't get me wrong I agree with you. I make sure all my passengers have seatbelts on, and I never drive anywhere without the passenger(s) having a seatblet on. Like in your case, my mates always wear seatblets, if they don't I kick them out of the car (hasn't happened yet) or I tell them to put it on, i.e. pull over. Fair enough for having a fine, but why should the driver cop the fine, moreso why should the driver cop demerit points? Since there are so few we have, being done and losing your license for the stupidity of someone else seems a bit harsh.
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    That rule with the traffic island is bloody stupid.

    A turning lane can accomodate 3 or so cars in a 90kmph zone near my place and has a fairly long traffic island leading up to it.

    There is only one lane for traffic going forward and usually there is about 5-6 cars waiting to turn off and they wait on the traffic island.

    Now they will be blocking all the traffic going straight ahead. This will be fun since it's a 90kmph coming around a fairly quick and blind left hand corner. Now people will come flying around that corner and be suprised to find stationary traffic sitting in their lane.

    Only escape plans being either a gravel ditch OR the opposite traffic lane.

    That rule alone is going to cause more traffic chaos and I don't see ANY benefit.

    Seatbelt rule is retarded too! I get in the car, Don't move until all seatbelts are clicked in.

    How are they going to enforce that rule? I get pulled over because the boys in blue notice a passenger has un-belted.... how are they going to prove that I noticed...?

    I don't look around the passengers every 5 min to make sure everyone still has their seatbelt on... mainly because I have something better to do... like watching where the **** I'm going!

    And the deal with phones and GPS having to be operated without touching them... ok... so does that mean I can't wind my window down as I'm driving because I have to touch the handle/switch? Waht about turning my windscreen wipers on? Should I pull over when it starts raining to turn them on?

    Seriously, it's like these people are really bored and have to make up random and annoying rules so they can pretend they actually have a job.

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