License converstion interstate

[acex1138]

Either moving to to nsw, qld or nt soon, depending on where i land my job.

It's been looking like qld a bit, they keepm essing me around on license conversion. One of my mates got disqualified from driving, went up there and applied for a license.

They checked his history and due to a loophole of the court disqualifying him here or something, and qld specifying that it must be removed by an order of australia court which this one wasnt, he got issued with a qld license based on what his license was here according to transport SA.

He got issued with a full unrestricted license.

Few other people i know have gove interstate on p's and had theirs converted to higher grade licenses as we have (til july) no restrictions.

Ive been getting onto nsw and qld, my license according to SA cannot be converted or modified in anyway for 3 years from when i won my appeal against charges last year.

Im meant to be on my p's til 23 p2's til 24. Spoke to the other states they reckon thats crap, i go somewhere else i have to convert my license in 3 months..... and ic ant get a straight answer out of any of them for what ill be converted to.

The only guy i can get a hold of at transport qld is telling me i will get the same i have here.. which according to him means i will be given red p's.... restricted to driving in daylight and banned from driving my own car.

I explain to him ive held my license for 3 years, have even been on p2's... and got regressed but on paper have still held my license over 2 years, and no restrictions and my cars illegal for a p plater in their state.

Got told, oh well when you move here, explain this to whoever serves you and u might get lucky, but we're not telling you until you hand over your license.

Anyone know how to get a straight answer out of any of the states on what i would be converted to?

[hsvpunk]

why should you be any differnet to anyone else?
if you have P's, then im guessing you ahve P's in other states.

(and pretty sure you have to be a resident of the state for X amount of time?)

[ari666]

The only guy i can get a hold of at transport qld is telling me i will get the same i have here.. which according to him means i will be given red p's.... restricted to driving in daylight and banned from driving my own car.

Anyone know how to get a straight answer out of any of the states on what i would be converted to?

sounds to me like you got a straight answer. just depends on whether you wanna hear it or not.

[acex1138]

ok... im not for special treatment and shit. they are saying i get same as i have here.

So from their wording there... i should be able to keep driving my car and drive it at night.

Not have it downgraded to not driving at night & to use their words 'have to sell your car'

[dirt drifter]

its a circus isn't it? i've heard similar stories about people going interstate on P's and getting a full licence when they transfer it over, a mate got P's in qld then came back to nsw within 2 years at the most and got a full licence, lucky bastard.

what i can tell ya about getting a qld licence, all i had to do was get a form from the transport dept, write my address on it and get someone whose licence has the same address fill out their name and licence number on it, like a statutory declaration u might say. no questions about how long i had been in qld or anything. this is handy if u cant provide proof of address like a bill, rent paperwork etc with your name on it.

with the 'explain it to whoever serves u and u might get lucky' bit. if they're a prick, pretend u forgot ya wallet and walk out, try the next transport dept down the road

[ari666]

lol, well i got a solution which worked for me. i woulda been on my p's till i was 27 (its a long story, dont ask) so instead i went to england, after a year you change your aussie licence with the DVLA there and you are instantly full licence.

the suckful thing is if i hadve come back on my probationary period here in vic, i woulda gone straight back on ps' but you can drive here for up to 6 moths on the UK licence.

[david dubbo]

this has been a problem since day dot. When I was 16 I went to S.A and got my license then came straight home to W.A. I had it for 7 months before the W.A court was able to take it off me then because I lived 1.5 hours out of town and had to drive 45 km on a gravel road they issued me a extra ordinary license to just drive that bit of road then I joined the navy and lived in Vic,N.S.W and W.a and had a license in every state. This was brilliant because it was in the days before computers and the states didnt check on each other so if you got pulled over in W.A you gave the copper a licence from another state and it was to hard for them to do anything so they just let you go.

[acex1138]

its a circus isn't it? i've heard similar stories about people going interstate on P's and getting a full licence when they transfer it over, a mate got P's in qld then came back to nsw within 2 years at the most and got a full licence, lucky bastard.

what i can tell ya about getting a qld licence, all i had to do was get a form from the transport dept, write my address on it and get someone whose licence has the same address fill out their name and licence number on it, like a statutory declaration u might say. no questions about how long i had been in qld or anything. this is handy if u cant provide proof of address like a bill, rent paperwork etc with your name on it.

with the 'explain it to whoever serves u and u might get lucky' bit. if they're a prick, pretend u forgot ya wallet and walk out, try the next transport dept down the road

the problem im facing is.. this is one of hte determening factors of where i go.... i cant go somewhere where, 3 months in i get the license downgraded and then cant drive or work at night.

All these places are telling me the only way to find out is once ive HANDED my license over to them.

[hsvpunk]

.... you change to a new state you run by that states rules...... dont like it, dont move.

OR, go work in that state, but keep your rego etc in whatever state your in now.

[acex1138]

.... you change to a new state you run by that states rules...... dont like it, dont move.

OR, go work in that state, but keep your rego etc in whatever state your in now.

ive been told what hte penalties are if your in a state more then 3 months wihtout transferring, i dont want to risk it

[vp_commo]

you have to live in the state for three months and prove it in QLD tp gain a QLD licence.
I blew my points in NSW 4 years ago then coincidentally moved to QLD for work, I reapplied and got a full licence, mind you my NSW had not been revoked at that time, but it did get revoked eventually.
When in QLD I received a letter saying I could no longer drive in NSW, until my restriction date had passed, I think I lost my NSW for 3 months.

cheers

Dam

[STEALTHY™]

Its pretty simple, you get a license for the state your in. Some states have shitty rules, others don't (SA is known to be the most lenient atm). So, if you want to move, you deal with it, if not, move later after you have your full license.

[acex1138]

its just stupid.... when i won my appeal the magistrate told me i had my license back as is (due to proceedings you hand in your license at court) you win it back you go to the dmv after to get it back if you win.

Was told i had my license back as is, the dmv said no and told me even tho i won i still get my license regressed and am on it for 3 years like that.

On paper i've had my license continuously for nearly 3 years.... which in all the other states qualifies for a full license.. it has never been disqualified. I dont get how they are working this out and would just like a straight answer.

[STEALTHY™]

its just stupid.... when i won my appeal the magistrate told me i had my license back as is (due to proceedings you hand in your license at court) you win it back you go to the dmv after to get it back if you win.

Was told i had my license back as is, the dmv said no and told me even tho i won i still get my license regressed and am on it for 3 years like that.

On paper i've had my license continuously for nearly 3 years.... which in all the other states qualifies for a full license.. it has never been disqualified. I dont get how they are working this out and would just like a straight answer.

Explain your appeal? If you just 'won' the right to continue driving, thats probably a good behaviour bond, NOT getting your license back as is.

If the chargers were dropped, then you'll just get your full license at the normal time.....

[vp_commo]

its just stupid.... when i won my appeal the magistrate told me i had my license back as is (due to proceedings you hand in your license at court) you win it back you go to the dmv after to get it back if you win.

Was told i had my license back as is, the dmv said no and told me even tho i won i still get my license regressed and am on it for 3 years like that.

On paper i've had my license continuously for nearly 3 years.... which in all the other states qualifies for a full license.. it has never been disqualified. I dont get how they are working this out and would just like a straight answer.

QLD would put you on a probational I beleive, meaning you have less points for about 12 months.

Cheers

Dan

[Garth]

firstly let me welcome you to qld, and may i say, enjoy the smart state.

now, ill point out a few facts for ya here to set you straight. when dealing with qld transport, your dealing with a government agency that beleives in equal opertunity, so chances are you could be served by someone with 1 arm, no feet, the iq of a squashed pea, personality of a half eaten mars bar, one ear bigger than the other, a eye hanging out of it's socket in a little goodie bag, one hell of a over bite, the remainding eye will be cross eyed and yellow in colour and, who can only answer the phone and scream "have you seen my base ball"

beleive me, you will never ever ever in your working life, or driving life get straight answers out of a) qld health, b) qld transport or c)department of child services.

so i guess the only way you will find out is to bring in your licence, all your paper work in, make sure it's in nice easy to read writing, with no spelling mistakes, or any torn pages, (the person at the local office who can read struggles turning pages and cant understand the typo of hte). and see what you get.

[hsvpunk]

ive been told what hte penalties are if your in a state more then 3 months wihtout transferring, i dont want to risk it

hmmmmm... my mate is up in Brisbane, has been for over 2 years, and both his cars are still rego'd in vic.. and hasnt had a problem.

[ari666]

hmmmmm... my mate is up in Brisbane, has been for over 2 years, and both his cars are still rego'd in vic.. and hasnt had a problem.

my sis had been in vic (from QLD) for a week b4 being pulled over and warned about her reg plates/licence. two weeks later pulled over again, another week again (3 times in a month) she decided to chage everything over.... i guess its all how lucky you are.

[acex1138]

was in katoomba nsw less than 5 getting warned about my plates and license if i was gonna stay.

SA's licenses and court system are crazy. We apparantly use to have that good behavior thing, what we have now.... well when i went through it was confusing as hell and no one seemed to understand it even the people putting it through.

According to the courts and the magistrate, it was an appeal against license disqualification and I won the right to keep my license, the only penalty being that under any circumstance if i was to have sapol attempt to remove my license I would not be able to challenge it (yes sounds similar to good behavior bond), as I was a nightfill manager at the time, I wasnt hit with the 6 month no driving at night.

I was on p2's at the time and a month away from my full license.

According to the magistrate and everyone at the court, I go in, hand in my license... reason being if i didnt win, they could make sure i wouldnt have a drivers license on me. Conditions of winining according to the manual i was issued with was a nighttime curfew may be imposed, I also would be refunded the money for my license and the next day I would have to go down to the dmv to collect my license again.

Ok now you can make some sense out of that, won my appeal, magistrates harsh words if I was in the same position again I had lost my right of appeal.

I go to the dmv.... im told no refund will be issued. Im then asked to hand over my license and evidence of winning the appeal. I then get told my license has been cancelled, I tell them tehy cant do that i've won my appeal. They tell me yes.... they havnt disqualified me.... they are reissuing the license as under new SA law that had passed just a few days before, my license was to be regressed (I called a lawyer about this after and was told it was a bunch of crap as the magistrate said I didnt have that happen im not meant to, and I didnt lose my license or come back from disqualification so it was the dmv just pushing this crap on to me, fun part was there was no way to appeal it).

I was then told my license was going to be given back to me once i paid $300 then and there. (I had driven there on the card the court had issued me that was only good to drive to the dmv to pickup my license) got told I was going back to p1's and i was going to hold it for 3 years and then 1 year on p2's.

Now according to qld documentation and law, my license has not been removed by an order of australia court. I've called a lawyer and confirmed this, so in their eyes i've held my license since 2007 making that 3 years this year.

My license is also a non restricted license, according to the lawyers at bajada around the corner, in queensland based on the documentation on their website, I qualify for a full license, and pending a refusal on that, an exemptions license.

Now one thing ive learned as stated above..... government departments arent hte smartest and love to follow stupid paperwork ideals. Im just wondering how to best handle this.... transport qld just seem to want to do their best to not answer my questions and keep directing me to an email adress where i keep being told to call the call center where each time I get some arrogant person who will tell me to sell my car, take my luck or that they arent authorised to answer any of my questions. The one thing I do get out of these people is that there is someone above them who makes these decisions based on the information and that i need to contact them.

Yet some how none of them can seem to give me contact details for them.

I cant even get onto anyone about this in NSW or NT... nt's been a million times worse, not one email replied to, all of their call centers just put me on hold.

Im at a loss of how to progress further with this.... im not trying to wrought the system like others do, the state I go to is based on the outcome of this, im going over for work and a change of scenery, not to upgrade my license and come back. Bit hard to go somewhere else and work / start a new if I cant drive anywhere or even own my own car.

[ecotec_kid]

keep car and rego in the state your in now, get the bills sent to a family members address. we had a barina here (qld) for over 5 years with WA plates and sticker on it, the only problem we ever had was trying to insure it over here and it has a town personalised plate (T-****) and they thought it was a taxi.

[acex1138]

yeah well i just want to do the right thing. Blue mountains cops in nsw have told me they will be the and i quote "Nail rammed up my ass" if i dont convert my license there in 3 months

[dirt drifter]

ouch, i guess its just the luck of the draw wherever u go as to weather or not the local cops harass u or not. i drove around central qld for a year with nsw plates and didnt get pulled over once whereas its obviously very different down blue mountains way.

if u cant get a straight answer out of the rta/transport dept etc, if i were u i would go wherever the best employment prospects are and go with whatever happens licence wise when u get there. i know this dosen't help but if u cant get a straight answer from the rocket scientists on the other end of the phone, what else can ya do?

[acex1138]

yeah thats why i've been asking you guys..... i cant seem to get anywhere phoning or emailing around..... if anyone knoew someone... or thing (referring to nsw auto service).... on how i can get some answers, it would really help

[somerandom]

went to qld on my p's came back on my opens

once apon a time

you'll never get a straight answer from 'em

go work in that state, but keep your rego etc in whatever state your in now.

my ex called civic compliance(in vic about a different matter) they told her she must change her reg to victorian (from tasmania) immediately. her fines were getting sent to her VIC address, even though her car was regged in TAS, so i don't see why she would need to change to victorian plates if thats the case?

still hasn't changed the registration over - 3 years later, nothing more been said from 'em

[acex1138]

i seriously dont know what to do. cant get an answer from them, they tell me they wont tell me until i go over and handover my license.

They had me red p's im screwed.