Martial Arts Shoes

[Deutscher]

Hi All,

Anyone do Martial Arts here? TKD, Mixed, Freestyle, Karate type martial arts? (not Ninja, Wrestling, etc)

I'm in the market of getting some shoes. I live in Perth and there isn't many good martial arts stores here. Giri Martial Arts is really the only good one I recon.

I've had a look at Giri and they have the Adidas TKD Ultra 3 shoes for $135 (member), or I've just been Rebel Sport and they have Adidas Kundo 2 for $129.

Does anyone have experience with martial arts shoes? I can't find any reviews on them apart from 1 person said the Ultras lasted 1 month before the rubber started coming off.

Help appreciated

[pillzor]

i prefer training barefoot or in socks myself, better for conditioning your feet and balance ( if you can kick head height on a polished wooden floor wearing socks without slipping you know your balance is atleast acceptable).
on a more subject related note, try ebay.

[Kikki]

My boys do Martial arts at Cobra in Cannington, they have all sorts of stuff there. Tried them?

[Deutscher]

i prefer training barefoot or in socks myself, better for conditioning your feet and balance ( if you can kick head height on a polished wooden floor wearing socks without slipping you know your balance is atleast acceptable).
on a more subject related note, try ebay.

Conditioning the feet XD I have like calisus? on my big toes! they are there permanently lol.
Unfortunately my school does lean n fit (fitness class) and people sweat and so all the sweat is on the floor for when the freestyle class starts!

kick to the head ... couldn't do that if my life depended on it. I don't do TKD. I do freestyle... its more street defence which takes bits from different styles, mainly boxing for upper body, muay thai for low body kicks, & BJJ. Unless your pro and can get your foot vertical really quickly, chances are you'll cop a few hits. So we don't train to do high kicks.

[Deutscher]

My boys do Martial arts at Cobra in Cannington, they have all sorts of stuff there. Tried them?

I've been there once, they sell Sports Master shoes for $80.

I haven't seen the training at Cobra but I do like the dojo they have. My school is smaller, less commercialised. I probably would of went Cobra if I lived south the river though.

[pillzor]

Conditioning the feet XD I have like calisus? on my big toes! they are there permanently lol.
Unfortunately my school does lean n fit (fitness class) and people sweat and so all the sweat is on the floor for when the freestyle class starts!

kick to the head ... couldn't do that if my life depended on it. I don't do TKD. I do freestyle... its more street defence which takes bits from different styles, mainly boxing for upper body, muay thai for low body kicks, & BJJ. Unless your pro and can get your foot vertical really quickly, chances are you'll cop a few hits. So we don't train to do high kicks.

i was just using the high kick as a specific example, youll need good balance for everything unless youre on the ground.
i trained in taijutsu which to most people would look like violent aikido and we rarely kicked high either, also i have no idea of your experience either so im not trying to give advice if its not needed just to clarify.

[Deutscher]

i was just using the high kick as a specific example, youll need good balance for everything unless youre on the ground.
i trained in taijutsu which to most people would look like violent aikido and we rarely kicked high either, also i have no idea of your experience either so im not trying to give advice if its not needed just to clarify.

nah thats cool. Im keen for opinions and advice.
If I get a few others recommending barefoot over shoes, I'll prob stick to barefoot. I just never had shoes for martial arts before and just because of all the sweat thought It mighta been a good idea. Thought I'd ask around before forking out $120+ for some shoes.

I've never heard of your style before, might hav a scope on youtube for some clips how long you been doing that? you've got a GI for that aswell don't you? I'm thinking of doing Muay Thai over the summer while it's so hot and keep doing Freestyle & Mixed Martial Arts in the cooler seasons.

[Deutscher]

Pillzor - Just had a look at some Taijutsu clips on youtube. Awesome watching black belts, movements are so smooth and flawless. Hows it compare to Jujitsu and things?

Edit: Just done some more research. Taijutsu is Japenese Budo? .. it's jujitsu for grappling but also a large emphasis on striking.

[pillzor]

Pillzor - Just had a look at some Taijutsu clips on youtube. Awesome watching black belts, movements are so smooth and flawless. Hows it compare to Jujitsu and things?

Edit: Just done some more research. Taijutsu is Japenese Budo? .. it's jujitsu for grappling but also a large emphasis on striking.

yes its called bujinkan budo taijutsu founded by soke matsaki hatsumi and its pretty much a mix of several samurai schools and two or three `ninja` schools (people often refer too it as ninjutsu but i would rather not).
theres alot of weapons work but main focus is unarmed and i would describe it more as jujutsu rather than judo style in that rather than brute force a throw or take down you take what you are given from your oponent and flow with it such as in aikido , without saying the aim is to kill/maim/disable your opponent , with enough training all of those options would be available to you should be in need of them.
so you probably noticed alot of striking in the video clips, in that case it would be striking in the midst of the throw .... certainly would make someone think twice against attacking again.

[Deutscher]

yes its called bujinkan budo taijutsu founded by soke matsaki hatsumi and its pretty much a mix of several samurai schools and two or three `ninja` schools (people often refer too it as ninjutsu but i would rather not).
theres alot of weapons work but main focus is unarmed and i would describe it more as jujutsu rather than judo style in that rather than brute force a throw or take down you take what you are given from your oponent and flow with it such as in aikido , without saying the aim is to kill/maim/disable your opponent , with enough training all of those options would be available to you should be in need of them.
so you probably noticed alot of striking in the video clips, in that case it would be striking in the midst of the throw .... certainly would make someone think twice against attacking again.

How long have you been doing it for? Have you ever used it out in the streets? It would be interesting to see Aikido or anything like that to be used on the street. Generally it's just boxing on the streets, so I'm thinking it wouldn't be so good for fights? (I'm probably wrong, & I don't mean to sound rude about it, I've just never experienced a fight with aikido type fights). I suppose it's more for disabling your opponent thant knocking them out type for fighting.

[pillzor]

i havent been training in a couple of years and the closest ive come too using it in a fight would be locking up mates in playfights which ofcourse really doesnt count.
but anyway the training is meant too ingrain itself into you so if you find yourself having too `try` and use it youre pretty much doing it wrong.
one of the head guys over in japan has been quoted as saying `just kick his ass` when asked what techniques would be better in a street fight.

EDIT: i should add that you do gain a rather high pain tolerance and better natural ukemi from training which comes out without thinking , ive found myself rolling across concrete back onto my feet and laughing when tripping up once when i would probably have faceplanted otherwise.