I am the proud and very happy owner of a 97 VSII commodore, V6 A4 with improved induction, extractors and exhaust... and tinted windows too
just bought an EFII '96 GLI Falcon sedan, got at bargain prices, got it for the missus.
got it in excellent conditon and I drove it around a bit today and was wondering... why are commodore owners so hostile to falcons?
it's a beauty to drive... steering's much lighter than my VS, and she's more relaxed and comfortable to drive..
my VS is quicker off the line, by a bit, but the falcon has a bit better in gear acceleration.
it's stock atm. but will develop it like i did my commodore...
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in many ways they are so alike.. but they feel soo different....
it's weird.. feels familiar
still prefer my VS, esp since ive worked on her for a bit... but the Falcon's an awesome drive too
the missus loves it (she prefers the VS too)
commodores and falcons are both awesome cars, especially when bought second hand, and compared to other cars in their price range.. such as shitbox mitsubishis, daewoo, kia, hyundais and mazdas..
I personally detest lancers, and love thrashing the shit out of them at the lights.. my VS flew past a 2009 VRX with ease lol.
I agree,
I have driven some pretty smooth Falcons in my time, and I don't mind them, I just gotta soft spot for both,
Pro's and Con's is always how any car buy plays the game
If some one had a nice EF/EL Fairmont or XR6, I wouldn't say NO, but just gotta some up the Value,
BOTH Aussie Built, both 6 cyclinder, 9 times out of 10 they are just as good as each other
Note: I HATE THE LOOK OF AN AU Falcon
i'm not hostile to fords i owned a few of them but that response you talk about off the line is what breaks them for me i hate the way thay feel like a taxi
Last edited by thedeadwalk; 25-02-2010 at 03:39 PM.
That or ever the VRX maybe 2.4L or a 2.0L, 4cyclinder
VS 3.8L .... I would hope to believe you have chance without trying
EFII 4.0L .... Again, if you didn't leave them in the dust, when you were Illegally Street Racing (not impressive) there would be something wrong
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You Either A) Don't Like Your Missus B) Wan't her to break up with you, to save yourself the trouble or C) Subconsciously know the VS is better hence the reason you're driving it.
Personally if i wanted to break off the relationship with my Mrs, i couldn't think of a faster way of doing it than buying her a ford.
In all seriousness your question is like jumping on the taliban forums and asking why they don't like westerners
And my money is on the VRX 4 Cyl to beat a stock V6 Commy
[Edit] Just did some research after posting this . . . .
Holden Commodore VS
Year of Introduction: Apr 1995
Engine: 3.8 litre EFI V6 ; 5.0 V8 EFI
Power: 145kW (V6) & 165kW (V8)
Transmission: 5 speed manual & 4 speed Turbohydramatic
Performance: 0 - 100 km/h 8.9 seconds (V6) ; Standing 400 metres 16.3 seconds (V6)
Production: 277,774
Price: $26,780
2009 Mitsubishi Lancer VRX Sportsback
0-100 km/h 7.9 seconds
So you flew past him because he wasn't trying to race you![]()
Last edited by Dinwoodie; 25-02-2010 at 03:10 PM. Reason: Becuase i can =D
My girlfriend drives an EF II Futura. It hasn't done a head gasket while she's owned it but there always seems to be something wrong with it. The only thing I like is that it's pretty comfortable. I wouldn't swap my car for one but it's all personal preference I guess.
Whoever said 'There is no substitute for cubes' had obviously never heard of Jet power
i drove my brothers EF falcon a few times. It always shocked me how much quicker that car was than my VX (i'd say thats because of weight and the fact its a straight 6), mechanically it seemed fine. Just everything else fell off of it, lol, seriously it was falling apart but it was always just cosmetic stuff, it still always drove great.
i'm driving the VS because it's mine, and i've done quite a bit of work on her. i also gave her the falcon because it's more comfortable and smoother to drive than the commodore, and it has much lighter steering which she likes.
my commodore's faster, inc acceleration, but when it comes to in gear acceleration the falcon's better
.2 of a second in it . . . If he put BP Ultimate in his 4 cyl he'd beat your "Best" 7.7 with a stock 4 cyl
my commodore's faster, inc acceleration, but when it comes to in gear acceleration the falcon's better
Sorry dude i can't make sense of this sentence.
Anyways mate, have fun with your falcon![]()
vs commy has stock 3.08 diff gear ratio whereas stock falcon diff ratio was 3.23 gear ratio, xr6 3.45, maybe thats why they are good in acceleration..