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    I am the proud and very happy owner of a 97 VSII commodore, V6 A4 with improved induction, extractors and exhaust... and tinted windows too

    just bought an EFII '96 GLI Falcon sedan, got at bargain prices, got it for the missus.

    got it in excellent conditon and I drove it around a bit today and was wondering... why are commodore owners so hostile to falcons?

    it's a beauty to drive... steering's much lighter than my VS, and she's more relaxed and comfortable to drive..

    my VS is quicker off the line, by a bit, but the falcon has a bit better in gear acceleration.

    it's stock atm. but will develop it like i did my commodore...

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    in many ways they are so alike.. but they feel soo different....

    it's weird.. feels familiar

    still prefer my VS, esp since ive worked on her for a bit... but the Falcon's an awesome drive too

    the missus loves it (she prefers the VS too)

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    Quote Originally Posted by VSCristian View Post
    I drove it around a bit today and was wondering... why are commodore owners so hostile to falcons?
    Why are Falcon owners so hostile towards Commodores? Who knows, but it's still a two way street.

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    commodores and falcons are both awesome cars, especially when bought second hand, and compared to other cars in their price range.. such as shitbox mitsubishis, daewoo, kia, hyundais and mazdas..

    I personally detest lancers, and love thrashing the shit out of them at the lights.. my VS flew past a 2009 VRX with ease lol.

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    I agree,

    I have driven some pretty smooth Falcons in my time, and I don't mind them, I just gotta soft spot for both,

    Pro's and Con's is always how any car buy plays the game

    If some one had a nice EF/EL Fairmont or XR6, I wouldn't say NO, but just gotta some up the Value,

    BOTH Aussie Built, both 6 cyclinder, 9 times out of 10 they are just as good as each other

    Note: I HATE THE LOOK OF AN AU Falcon

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    Quote Originally Posted by ORIXVywags View Post

    Note: I HATE THE LOOK OF AN AU Falcon

    only the sedan.... the ute isn't bad at all, the drive train;s a beauty...

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    i'm not hostile to fords i owned a few of them but that response you talk about off the line is what breaks them for me i hate the way thay feel like a taxi
    Last edited by thedeadwalk; 25-02-2010 at 03:39 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VSCristian View Post
    my VS flew past a 2009 VRX with ease lol.
    Wow so proud, most likely the driver of the VRX was just going at a normal pace.

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    That or ever the VRX maybe 2.4L or a 2.0L, 4cyclinder

    VS 3.8L .... I would hope to believe you have chance without trying

    EFII 4.0L .... Again, if you didn't leave them in the dust, when you were Illegally Street Racing (not impressive) there would be something wrong


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    Quote Originally Posted by ethann View Post
    They circled the problem on fords

    Haha
    Its an oval, holden has circled the problem........
    Someone shoulda really thought about that before saying it

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    Quote Originally Posted by VSCristian View Post
    just bought an EFII '96 GLI Falcon sedan, got at bargain prices, got it for the missus.
    You Either A) Don't Like Your Missus B) Wan't her to break up with you, to save yourself the trouble or C) Subconsciously know the VS is better hence the reason you're driving it.

    Personally if i wanted to break off the relationship with my Mrs, i couldn't think of a faster way of doing it than buying her a ford.

    In all seriousness your question is like jumping on the taliban forums and asking why they don't like westerners

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    And my money is on the VRX 4 Cyl to beat a stock V6 Commy

    [Edit] Just did some research after posting this . . . .

    Holden Commodore VS
    Year of Introduction: Apr 1995
    Engine: 3.8 litre EFI V6 ; 5.0 V8 EFI
    Power: 145kW (V6) & 165kW (V8)
    Transmission: 5 speed manual & 4 speed Turbohydramatic
    Performance: 0 - 100 km/h 8.9 seconds (V6) ; Standing 400 metres 16.3 seconds (V6)
    Production: 277,774
    Price: $26,780

    2009 Mitsubishi Lancer VRX Sportsback

    0-100 km/h 7.9 seconds

    So you flew past him because he wasn't trying to race you
    Last edited by Dinwoodie; 25-02-2010 at 03:10 PM. Reason: Becuase i can =D

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    Quote Originally Posted by neet_wagon View Post
    Its an oval, holden has circled the problem........
    Someone shoulda really thought about that before saying it
    but ours is a circle of a lion unlike there's witch is a circle of the problem

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedeadwalk View Post
    but ours is a circle of a lion unlike there's witch is a circle of the problem
    I think you miss the point, Theirs isn't a circle it's an oval. . .

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    My girlfriend drives an EF II Futura. It hasn't done a head gasket while she's owned it but there always seems to be something wrong with it. The only thing I like is that it's pretty comfortable. I wouldn't swap my car for one but it's all personal preference I guess.
    Whoever said 'There is no substitute for cubes' had obviously never heard of Jet power

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinwoodie View Post
    And my money is on the VRX 4 Cyl to beat a stock V6 Commy

    [Edit] Just did some research after posting this . . . .

    Holden Commodore VS
    Year of Introduction: Apr 1995
    Engine: 3.8 litre EFI V6 ; 5.0 V8 EFI
    Power: 145kW (V6) & 165kW (V8)
    Transmission: 5 speed manual & 4 speed Turbohydramatic
    Performance: 0 - 100 km/h 8.9 seconds (V6) ; Standing 400 metres 16.3 seconds (V6)
    Production: 277,774
    Price: $26,780

    2009 Mitsubishi Lancer VRX Sportsback

    0-100 km/h 7.9 seconds

    So you flew past him because he wasn't trying to race you
    yer but thats for stock cars

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    i drove my brothers EF falcon a few times. It always shocked me how much quicker that car was than my VX (i'd say thats because of weight and the fact its a straight 6), mechanically it seemed fine. Just everything else fell off of it, lol, seriously it was falling apart but it was always just cosmetic stuff, it still always drove great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinwoodie View Post
    And my money is on the VRX 4 Cyl to beat a stock V6 Commy

    [Edit] Just did some research after posting this . . . .

    Holden Commodore VS
    Year of Introduction: Apr 1995
    Engine: 3.8 litre EFI V6 ; 5.0 V8 EFI
    Power: 145kW (V6) & 165kW (V8)
    Transmission: 5 speed manual & 4 speed Turbohydramatic
    Performance: 0 - 100 km/h 8.9 seconds (V6) ; Standing 400 metres 16.3 seconds (V6)
    Production: 277,774
    Price: $26,780

    2009 Mitsubishi Lancer VRX Sportsback

    0-100 km/h 7.9 seconds

    So you flew past him because he wasn't trying to race you


    didn't say it was a STOCK VS... better induction, sports exhaust and extractors...

    best time that i recorded to 100 was 7.7secs

    if he didn't try to race he was revving the shit out of that engine for no reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinwoodie View Post
    You Either A) Don't Like Your Missus B) Wan't her to break up with you, to save yourself the trouble or C) Subconsciously know the VS is better hence the reason you're driving it.

    Personally if i wanted to break off the relationship with my Mrs, i couldn't think of a faster way of doing it than buying her a ford.

    In all seriousness your question is like jumping on the taliban forums and asking why they don't like westerners
    i'm driving the VS because it's mine, and i've done quite a bit of work on her. i also gave her the falcon because it's more comfortable and smoother to drive than the commodore, and it has much lighter steering which she likes.

    my commodore's faster, inc acceleration, but when it comes to in gear acceleration the falcon's better

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    Quote Originally Posted by VSCristian View Post
    didn't say it was a STOCK VS... better induction, sports exhaust and extractors...

    best time that i recorded to 100 was 7.7secs

    if he didn't try to race he was revving the shit out of that engine for no reason.
    .2 of a second in it . . . If he put BP Ultimate in his 4 cyl he'd beat your "Best" 7.7 with a stock 4 cyl

    Quote Originally Posted by VSCristian View Post
    i'm driving the VS because it's mine, and i've done quite a bit of work on her. i also gave her the falcon because it's more comfortable and smoother to drive than the commodore, and it has much lighter steering which she likes.

    my commodore's faster, inc acceleration, but when it comes to in gear acceleration the falcon's better
    my commodore's faster, inc acceleration, but when it comes to in gear acceleration the falcon's better

    Sorry dude i can't make sense of this sentence.

    Anyways mate, have fun with your falcon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dinwoodie View Post
    .2 of a second in it . . . If he put BP Ultimate in his 4 cyl he'd beat your "Best" 7.7 with a stock 4 cyl



    my commodore's faster, inc acceleration, but when it comes to in gear acceleration the falcon's better

    Sorry dude i can't make sense of this sentence.

    Anyways mate, have fun with your falcon

    if i kicked my mate out, emptied my boot (lots of stuff in there) and tried to do my 0-100 test in cooler weather i'd shave a bit more han 0.2secs!

    my vs is faster off the line, and overall, but the falcon is faster in gear

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    vs commy has stock 3.08 diff gear ratio whereas stock falcon diff ratio was 3.23 gear ratio, xr6 3.45, maybe thats why they are good in acceleration..

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