L plates on motorbike

[quick308]

I'm just abit confused about one of the rules i was told when i past the test, apparently you need a fully licenced rider suppervising you while you ride. This sounds pretty ridiculous since the other rider cant instruct you while you ride anyway, the reason i ask (rather then google it) is because i cant seem to find this rule anywhere for a bike only cars.

[Maxxiz]

Lol who ever said that is full of shite. You dont need a supervisor on a bike..

[Swordsy]

I believe that you either need them on the bike with you or riding behind you when in QLD.
I can't understand the reasons for it, seems stupid. I've heard they are looking at changing it.

[quick308]

I believe that you either need them on the bike with you or riding behind you when in QLD.
I can't understand the reasons for it, seems stupid. I've heard they are looking at changing it.

crap, bugger that then i'll just wait till i can get my p's before i go out and buy a bike. Thanks mate

[gavb90]

thats all a load of shit im on my l's and all u have to do is do the test and you can ride by your self anywhere you want as loang as its on a learner legal bike but the cops dont no what bikes are legal or not im on a bike thats not leagal for me but the cops havent evan realised wen ive been pulled over for rbt

[ParkwayDrv]

thats all a load of shit im on my l's and all u have to do is do the test and you can ride by your self anywhere you want as loang as its on a learner legal bike but the cops dont no what bikes are legal or not im on a bike thats not leagal for me but the cops havent evan realised wen ive been pulled over for rbt

lol why would they have the law if the cops "don't" know it?

and also http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home...ence/#learning

[wana s' charge stock vt]

in queensland ya do need someone following ya if ya on ya L's. i changed my vic licence to qld and got fined for riding around unsupervised.

[Swordsy]

thats all a load of shit im on my l's and all u have to do is do the test and you can ride by your self anywhere you want as loang as its on a learner legal bike but the cops dont no what bikes are legal or not im on a bike thats not leagal for me but the cops havent evan realised wen ive been pulled over for rbt

If you've got a Bike rego'd in NSW, it'll have LAMS written on the rego label. If it doesn't, I'm pretty sure that you lose your licence. Not sure about QLD or Vic.

[W84N01]

In WA, if you are aon your "L"s, you need someone that has had their licence for more than 4 years to follow you on their bike. You are not allwoed to ride by yourself. Just like in a car you are not allowed to drive by yourself if you are on your "L"s.

They are basically there to make sure you follow and abide by the road rules. Mainly keeping to the speed limit, and not driving dangerously. I've recently gotten my 250 licence, and there is so much to keep in mind when riding a bike, weather it's a scooter or a 250 or bigger.

I'd suggest not risking losing your licence just coz you haven't been "caught yet".

[terry_toughnuts]

How is having someone following you going to help if your in trouble on the bike. Its not like you can talk to the person or actually help them. I guess at least the new rider can model behaviour from the more experienced rider.

[ParkwayDrv]

How is having someone following you going to help if your in trouble on the bike. Its not like you can talk to the person or actually help them. I guess at least the new rider can model behaviour from the more experienced rider.

its not gonna help any more than having them on the back of the bike

[edals]

What a load of Rubbish, Could ride on my own on my Ls, then this is in NSW about 2 years back.
Both my Dad and brother had bikes, and its good being able to ride with others, you get to learn riding lines & the ins and outs with other riders, i learnt heaps from them both, and dont think i would be around if it was not for somethings i learnt from them. My dad does have 35 year exp riding and still rides today, so i think hes got it worked well. But in the end its not you its the cars that will kill you, Just ride as like everyone is out to get you lol

[50LTRv8]

You guys are talking absolute crap. YOU DO NOT NEED SOMEONE WITH YOU on your L PLATES on a bike. You get your l's your only restriction is power to weight ratio, you do not need supervision.

[Darren_L]

I'm just abit confused about one of the rules i was told when i past the test, apparently you need a fully licenced rider suppervising you while you ride. This sounds pretty ridiculous since the other rider cant instruct you while you ride anyway, the reason i ask (rather then google it) is because i cant seem to find this rule anywhere for a bike only cars.

it's true (in Qld anyway) & I agree it's ridiculous
I got fined for riding when I was on my L's without a licenced rider accompanying me.

[Darren_L]

You guys are talking absolute crap. YOU DO NOT NEED SOMEONE WITH YOU on your L PLATES on a bike. You get your l's your only restriction is power to weight ratio, you do not need supervision.

mate I'm a Queensland Transport Inspector and as the original question was from a Qld driver, then you need to refer to Qld law
best check your facts first before accusing people of talking crap. We aren't talking crap, I can assure you

http://www.transport.qld.gov.au/Home...ence/#learning
When learning to ride a motorbike
You must:

* clearly display an L-plate on the rear of the motorbike that you are learning to ride. Alternatively you may wear a vest clearly displaying a capital 'L'. If you are not correctly displaying an L-plate, both you and the person supervising you to ride the vehicle will be fined
* keep your learner licence with you at all times when you are learning to ride and show it to a police officer when asked to do so
* obey any conditions stated on your learner licence
* only learn to ride on a learner approved motorbike (LAM)
* have a zero (0.00 per cent) blood or breath alcohol limit if you are under 25 years and a blood or breath alcohol limit below 0.05 per cent if you are 25 years or over (drink driving applies to motorbikes also, and offences carry penalties of monetary fines and disqualification periods)
* not drive under the influence of drugs
* only be supervised by a person who holds, and has held, an open licence for the class of motorbike you are learning to ride, for at least one year
* you must not carry your supervisor as a pillion passenger on the motorbike. You may only carry a suitably licensed supervisor seated in the sidecar attached to the motorbike. If the motorbike does not have a sidecar, the supervisor may follow you at a safe distance on another motorbike or in another vehicle.

Note: Provisional licence holders must not supervise a learner licence holder to ride a motorbike. Only open licence holders are authorised to supervise a learner to ride.

[Swordsy]

You guys are talking absolute crap. YOU DO NOT NEED SOMEONE WITH YOU on your L PLATES on a bike. You get your l's your only restriction is power to weight ratio, you do not need supervision.

Only restriction power/weight.
And points, speed limit, passengers, BAC and in QLD an experienced rider with you.
There are some restrictions now aren't there

[ParkwayDrv]

You guys are talking absolute crap. YOU DO NOT NEED SOMEONE WITH YOU on your L PLATES on a bike. You get your l's your only restriction is power to weight ratio, you do not need supervision.

then why even have L plates

[quick308]

You guys are talking absolute crap. YOU DO NOT NEED SOMEONE WITH YOU on your L PLATES on a bike. You get your l's your only restriction is power to weight ratio, you do not need supervision.

which state are you referring to, you do realise that each state has a different set of rules dont you

[quick308]

mate I'm a Queensland Transport Inspector and as the original question was from a Qld driver, then you need to refer to Qld law
best check your facts first before accusing people of talking crap. We aren't talking crap, I can assure you

Motorbike learner licence
When learning to ride a motorbike
You must:

* clearly display an L-plate on the rear of the motorbike that you are learning to ride. Alternatively you may wear a vest clearly displaying a capital 'L'. If you are not correctly displaying an L-plate, both you and the person supervising you to ride the vehicle will be fined
* keep your learner licence with you at all times when you are learning to ride and show it to a police officer when asked to do so
* obey any conditions stated on your learner licence
* only learn to ride on a learner approved motorbike (LAM)
* have a zero (0.00 per cent) blood or breath alcohol limit if you are under 25 years and a blood or breath alcohol limit below 0.05 per cent if you are 25 years or over (drink driving applies to motorbikes also, and offences carry penalties of monetary fines and disqualification periods)
* not drive under the influence of drugs
* only be supervised by a person who holds, and has held, an open licence for the class of motorbike you are learning to ride, for at least one year
* you must not carry your supervisor as a pillion passenger on the motorbike. You may only carry a suitably licensed supervisor seated in the sidecar attached to the motorbike. If the motorbike does not have a sidecar, the supervisor may follow you at a safe distance on another motorbike or in another vehicle.

Note: Provisional licence holders must not supervise a learner licence holder to ride a motorbike. Only open licence holders are authorised to supervise a learner to ride.

thanks for that Darren. I was looking into this abit more today, and found out that you can do a course through Australian motorcycle Academy, and get your p plates straight away, if you show your competent on a bike. Atleast i dont have to wait 6 months now, the course is expencive but worth it.

[kniever]

lol im glad im in melb, im on my bike l's now and its good having the freedom to ride whenever/wherever i want.

you guys allowed to get ya p's after 3 months of holding l's?

[W84N01]

You guys are talking absolute crap. YOU DO NOT NEED SOMEONE WITH YOU on your L PLATES on a bike. You get your l's your only restriction is power to weight ratio, you do not need supervision.

Isn't this the same as saying that i can let my 12yr old daughter get in my car and drive herself to school? That is an absolutely ridiculous statement to make when you don't even know what State you are talking about, or what the right rules and regs are.



As ParkwayDrv suggested, why bother even having "L"s if it's absolute crap?

[UFO]

thats all a load of shit im on my l's and all u have to do is do the test and you can ride by your self anywhere you want as loang as its on a learner legal bike but the cops dont no what bikes are legal or not im on a bike thats not leagal for me but the cops havent evan realised wen ive been pulled over for rbt

good luck with that mate. if you are on a bike that isnt legal for a learner, then may as well ride about with no rego or insurance... because it's void anyway. the cops pulling you over should be the least of your worries.

[Darren_L]

thanks for that Darren. I was looking into this abit more today, and found out that you can do a course through Australian motorcycle Academy, and get your p plates straight away, if you show your competent on a bike. Atleast i dont have to wait 6 months now, the course is expencive but worth it.

no worries mate
that would be the Q-ride scheme