L plater + vy ss + irresponsible parent =

[Robbo5390]

Hi all,
Had a few brews after fixing my car last night round at a mates house as you do, minding our own business when we hear this loud roar, tyres squealing. My mate lives in berwick, in a street that is renoun for hoons, anyways rev limiter peakin through first, (thought this guys gonna blow an engine), change gears rev limiter through second, CRASH!?!?!?!? I legged it round the corner, smoke everywhere, an L plater in an ss had tried to do a big FULLY SICK!!! ULEI! and lost it. This car was hit at the back left door and had bent at 45 degrees to the restof the car, completely farked, the b pillar was flat against the passenger seat. I ran up as this kid got out of the car, i thought there is no way he is old enough to be on open licence, L plater 16 years old, WITH DAD IN THE PASSENGER SEAT!!! The fire fighters said he was about 300mm away from killing his father, and if his younger brother had have been on the passenger side in the back he would no longer be with us. The father tried to tell the cops his son had missed a gear and lost control.......

I am of the opinion that this high powered hoon business is crap, because i believe if you put an idiot behind the wheel, they will be an idiot, regardless of the car/cylinders/power. I just think its a prime example of an irresponsible driver (parent) creating more irresponsible drivers on our roads. Learn your limits and do not exceed them, unless in a controlled environment!

Luckily everyone was ok, and hopefully they will learn something from this experience. Anyway thats my story for the weekend.

Cheers

[ClairBear]

Will the damage buff out?

[levymetal]

I am of the opinion that this high powered hoon business is crap, because i believe if you put an idiot behind the wheel, they will be an idiot, regardless of the car/cylinders/power.

yeah yeah, power restrictions are bullshit because hoons are hoons no matter what the car... heard that argument too many times... even though power restrictions are not even a factor of this situation, what do you suggest then? take away all power restrictions? if he was in a daihatsu charade he wouldn't have crashed the car. but yeah teaching your son to do that in their first year of driving is only going to lead to problems.

[Sphinx]

if his father allows his L plater son to drive like that then there'll be one less idiot on the road soon after he gets his Ps. I feel sorry for the innocents he's likely to take with him.

[tytyice]

this wouldnt be in townsville by any chance about 2am ish would it

[strgas]

Doesn't say much for the father ? hope he learns his lesson , wonder if he,s insurance company will pay up on that one ???

[immortality]

power restrictions stop ********s from doing stuff at 200km/h. power restrictions stop hoons from owning 0-60mph in 4 second cars. yes, ********s will always be ********s and will still do stupid stuff but atleast they'll be doing it a little slower which in the case of a accident will lead to fewer serious injuries or deaths.

if the cops prove the accident was due to sustained loss of traction instead of the story he fed to the cops the insurance will laugh and daddy will be out of pocket because he is the supervising driver and is responsible.

learning to control a car in a skid or slide is a good thing. but in controlled conditions and not doing skids on public roads. as Minux likes to say driver concentration and proper driver training in the right enviroment will reduce the number of indicidents and injuries

[Tim Smtih]

I would love to own such a car. Why is it that fools are able to own and then write off such a great car? What a waste.

[vysute]

sounds exactly like berwick to me... spastics!

[soop]

I let my my L plate GF drive my SS.

Mind you, she's to scared to go much over 80kmh.
But it highlights a problem. How can we changed the attitude people have behind the wheel, if the next generation is being educated by spastics?

[strgas]

may thou should be taught to drive and not just pass a license test

[soop]

I've been saying it for ages.
Whats the point of having sex ed in school if they don't last long enough to use it?
Driving education and vehicle control skills SHOULD be taught in schools. Practical and theory, not reverse parking either. Actualy emergency controls and how to act in adverse situations.
Guaranteed it will save lives.

[SV6SidiUTE]

VEHICLE RESTRICTIONS!! Simple, if the vehicle is too powerful and L or P plates are displayed, automatic suspension of learners or Probationary. If you are going to use the argument of "what about parents that can't afford to buy a car for the kid to learn on" well there is always a driving school. At least you know that the kid will get proper education and practice. We should make it actually compulsory. My 2 cents. You may disagree with me, but rather than asking consistantly "oh what can we do, parents are idiots, cars are too powerful" come to the grips that there isn't much choice and push forward restrictions. Hmmm... come to think of it none of us can do anything about it, so maybe we can cross our fingers and hope that someone from law side of politics is reading this. Until that gets taken up by our "elite few" who tell every dick joe and jane what to do and how to do it, nothing can be done at all.

[Maxxiz]

Yep, power restrictions mean shit. A VN u can pick up for $500 and they are still pretty damn powerful cars.

[levymetal]

VEHICLE RESTRICTIONS!! Simple, if the vehicle is too powerful and L or P plates are displayed, automatic suspension of learners or Probationary. If you are going to use the argument of "what about parents that can't afford to buy a car for the kid to learn on" well there is always a driving school. At least you know that the kid will get proper education and practice. We should make it actually compulsory. My 2 cents. You may disagree with me, but rather than asking consistantly "oh what can we do, parents are idiots, cars are too powerful" come to the grips that there isn't much choice and push forward restrictions. Hmmm... come to think of it none of us can do anything about it, so maybe we can cross our fingers and hope that someone from law side of politics is reading this. Until that gets taken up by our "elite few" who tell every dick joe and jane what to do and how to do it, nothing can be done at all.

AFAIK there is no such thing as vehicle/power restrictions on Ls...

[vpcalais6]

I've been saying it for ages.
Whats the point of having sex ed in school if they don't last long enough to use it?
Driving education and vehicle control skills SHOULD be taught in schools. Practical and theory, not reverse parking either. Actualy emergency controls and how to act in adverse situations.
Guaranteed it will save lives.

i agree with you
the government need to wake up and do something

[nemesis_adrasteia]

VEHICLE RESTRICTIONS!! Simple, if the vehicle is too powerful and L or P plates are displayed, automatic suspension of learners or Probationary. If you are going to use the argument of "what about parents that can't afford to buy a car for the kid to learn on" well there is always a driving school. At least you know that the kid will get proper education and practice. We should make it actually compulsory. My 2 cents. You may disagree with me, but rather than asking consistantly "oh what can we do, parents are idiots, cars are too powerful" come to the grips that there isn't much choice and push forward restrictions. Hmmm... come to think of it none of us can do anything about it, so maybe we can cross our fingers and hope that someone from law side of politics is reading this. Until that gets taken up by our "elite few" who tell every dick joe and jane what to do and how to do it, nothing can be done at all.

i learned how to drive in my dads VT SS, i dont think it matters what car you learn in it the person teaching you.

[RedBull77]

i agree with you
the government need to wake up and do something

problem with the government are too cheap to do anything about it, and just think that if they threaten to crush your car that will stop you from doing this shit, but whats the point, when at the end of the day it been either one of these dicks head will end up crushing their own car or the government does it for them, but sad thing is, that they are likely to kill or badly hurt someone.
The government is ****ed up they asking young ppl what they think would stop this shit from happening, but the they wont listen to them! Yes we should have driving education and vehicle control taught in schools! but problem is, who is going to fund it??

[RedBull77]

and if parents are allowing their kids to drive their SS, well its their own stupid faults for doing so, I guess they have too much money, maybe they can afford to replace the car, and the kid?? but can they handle it when their kid kills someone elses? no amount of money is going to make that pain go away

[Deneo]

VEHICLE RESTRICTIONS!! Simple, if the vehicle is too powerful and L or P plates are displayed, automatic suspension of learners or Probationary. If you are going to use the argument of "what about parents that can't afford to buy a car for the kid to learn on" well there is always a driving school. At least you know that the kid will get proper education and practice. We should make it actually compulsory. My 2 cents. You may disagree with me, but rather than asking consistantly "oh what can we do, parents are idiots, cars are too powerful" come to the grips that there isn't much choice and push forward restrictions. Hmmm... come to think of it none of us can do anything about it, so maybe we can cross our fingers and hope that someone from law side of politics is reading this. Until that gets taken up by our "elite few" who tell every dick joe and jane what to do and how to do it, nothing can be done at all.

Okay
So, Someone like me that drives a 5.0 litre and missed out on the Power to Weight restrictions by a few weeks, and someone that is within a few months of being 21 should have their licenses suspended? Even know i don't drive like a complete tool?
I think the Power to weight restrictions should be brought back for Green P-Platers and Our restrictions moved to the Red P-Platers who are the ones who are killing themselves doing 200km down a suburban street?
As for the downer letting his Kid do that in a VY SS, Who in their right mind would put their son on learners in a manual 5.7 LSD with sweet F all Experience? Lucky no one got hurt and What a pity that a nice car was in the wrong hands.

[SV6SidiUTE]

Okay
So, Someone like me that drives a 5.0 litre and missed out on the Power to Weight restrictions by a few weeks, and someone that is within a few months of being 21 should have their licenses suspended? Even know i don't drive like a complete tool?
I think the Power to weight restrictions should be brought back for Green P-Platers and Our restrictions moved to the Red P-Platers who are the ones who are killing themselves doing 200km down a suburban street?
As for the downer letting his Kid do that in a VY SS, Who in their right mind would put their son on learners in a manual 5.7 LSD with sweet F all Experience? Lucky no one got hurt and What a pity that a nice car was in the wrong hands.

Hmm... sorry chief but not having a go at you or anything. Being 21 does not give you anywhere near enough experience to controll the car. Being fresh off the P plates does not give you experience either. That is why insurance companies have excess for persons under 25, and insurance restrictions. Even persons under 30 can not be insured for supercars. (This is where I get bombarded with P platers comments now)

And yes... obviously the parent is not in the right state of mind, hence making it compulsory for the kids to learn from instructors ONLY, and bump up the hours required.

[Deneo]

You're right, But branding everyone under the age of 21 as not being able to drive V8's etc is a crock of s***. Fair enough A Blown 8 or worked of its head, But A stock 5.0 in a heavy car, My VN V6's went a shitload harder and faster than my statesman does and the are not banned.
They will be soon enough with the Blue Shirt Wearing Gestapo in charge lol. But you Points are Very valid SV6 don't get me wrong. But i think 2-3 years in the drivers seat iv'e learned to control a car a fair bit better than a fresh 18 year old that's just got his license.

[Grennan]

We need the same driver licensing scheme as places such as Germany and many other European countries. Parents shouldn't be allowed to teach their children how to drive. While its convenient, its just one generation of poorly trained drivers teaching the next generation of poorly trained drivers.

Its not about high powered cars, the fact is, the trainer is a parent who has been brought up in the "good ole days" where ripping a skid was acceptable.

Get rid of the parent teaching kids bad habbits. Force them to enter documented driver training courses, make the entire licensing process harder and more expensive to go through.

In europe its not uncommon to spend around 7000 dollars to get your license, through driver training and all the various courses. Noone wants to loose their license when theyve just paid 7 grand to get it.

I know when I got my license, I was asked by the lady how many hours I had done... I said ohh around 100ish and that was it. No documentation needed. What a rubbish process.

[sik_dose]

I pull lots of FULLY SIK ULE'S all the time in my VN v6 and i never crash (much) this L player was just crap.

[STEALTHY™]

Oh its this thread again......