drink driving questions

[Garth]

guy's and galls, the young labour at work got done last night drink driving. he rang me absolutly guttered.
he blew .12 at time of pull over, drove him to the cop shop, took 10 mins might i add, and he blew.092.

now he was saying something about a minimum time between tests, is that true? and i always thought they needed to take blood for a acurate reading, which brings me to the point, how acurate are the breath testers? cause he was done about 10 mins after leaving the pub.

he is a honest bloke, said he had 3 scooners over the space of 2.5 hour's, not being upto date on drinking standards and stuff, does that sound about right?

[BoNeZ-01]

To blow that much, more likely more, or, 3 of full strength beer, but still, that pretty high, I've gotten lower readings, from drinking more..
There is sposed to be a minimum wait time from the first test, to the second, this is so they can work out the rate of metabolism of the alcohol or something..
I think the minimum is 10mins, but may be 15 or 20mins, I can't remember.

[acarmody]

3 schooners of what? The average man, according to the Australian standards can have two schooners of midstrength beer in the first hour and one every hour thereafter and remain under 0.05 . He is in good health, being a labourer probably has a bit of muscle on him? I would say that he had a bit more than 3 schooners. Even 3 heavys wouldn't make you get a reading that high.

There is no minimum time between tests that I know of. The handheld breathe testers they use at the RBT are very accurate and regularly tested, but the ones at the station are nearly always dead on.

[danja]

The blood tests are dead accurate. The breath testers are a good indication, but they rely on the assumption that a certain proportion of blood alcohol is absorbed into the air you breathe, then exhaled into the testing unit. The blood test cuts out the middle man as it were - unless you can show they buggered up the sample, or tested it incorrectly, you're shafted basically.

[Smallies]

If you just have just finished a drink, and I mean just swallowed the last mouthfull and use a bretho within about 2-3 minutes you will blow a blood alcohol percentage way higher than you actually are because of the alcohol still in your mouth - but if he first got bretho'd 10 minutes after he left the pub then surely the reading must be fairly accurate. Your mate hasn't got a chance of getting let off.

[MasterOfReality]

I'm average build and 2 schooners of full strength in the first hour will put me just over 0.05, and thats waiting 10-15 minutes after my last one. Tested it many times at the local RSL.

To blow .12 after 10 minutes, over 3 schooners in 2.5 hours, something doesn't add up. His BAC reading dropped 23.3% in the additional 10 mins it took to get to the cop shop and he was still way over 0.05.

The amount of publicity regarding standard drinks and BAC, he should have been more aware of the standards. Its almost like its common knowledge these days.

He won't get let off, not with that reading.

[coolngroovy]

[QUOTEhe is a honest bloke, said he had 3 scooners over the space of 2.5 hour's, not being upto date on drinking standards and stuff, does that sound about right? ][/QUOTE]

No.....no it doesn't!

[Tsunamix]

You are not supposed to be tested within 15 minutes of finishing your last drink, because alcohol in the mouth and throat can drastically affect the readings. It's within your rights to ask for a pause of 15 minutes and get a re test.

The guidlines for men are 2 standard drinks in the first hour and one every hour therafter to keep you on the limit. Varies person to person though.

[minux]

Hmm, do qld use schooners the same as NSW?
If so, that is 1.6 standard drinks per glass on heavy. So 3 schooners over 2.5 hours is the equivalent of 4.8 standard drinks. Almost 2 full drinks over the recommended intake of 2.5 hours...

I do not get why people get caught drink driving, I value my licence and as such, I keep a very accurate breatho in my glovebox at all times, best $300 I have spent. I am never driving if I am not in my car, so no need to ever take it out, also keep a replacement battery set in with it.

[Bravotwozero]

Either two lights or one heavy for me. If I'm drinking more than that I don't get behind the wheel of a car.

[BoNeZ-01]

Here in lies the confusion..
2 'standard' drinks does NOT put an average man under .05, it puts you ON 0.05.
0.05% B.A.C is OVER the legal limit, because Blood Alcohol Volume must be UNDER 0.05, for a full(unrestricted) licence holder to be legally allowed to drive.

"The general rule of thumb is that 2 "Standard Drinks" in the first hour will raise your BAC to 0.05%, and one "Standard Drink" per hour thereafter will maintain that level."

Standard Drinks As A measure Of Alcohol Consumption And Intoxication

[Swordsy]

In NSW they can't test you untill 15 mins after your last drink (have to sit on the side of the raod and wait) then they have to take you back and put you onto the breath tester there, if you still blow over, thats the one that they book you on, they will offer you a blood test after that, in most cases, the blood test comes out higher. If the blood test has been done, they'll then book you on that.

[STEALTHY™]

Anybody have any stats of people who were shown incorrect readings so high (0.12, double the legal limit).

Your 'honest' friend isn't so honest garth.....

[BoNeZ-01]

But there is 'normally' more than one test done.
If you blow over the legal limit for your licence on the side of the road, they'l take you to the station, wait about 15mins, then use the machine at the station.
If you disagree with the test results at the station, and want to contest them, then you can request a blood test.
At least, that's what they did to me anyway.. lol

[11gothevt11]

Did the blood test read higner than breath test???

[minux]

Anybody have any stats of people who were shown incorrect readings so high (0.12, double the legal limit).

Your 'honest' friend isn't so honest garth.....

Stealth no stats, but I once got done by the local copper for .098, only had one beer, he tested me as I walked out of the pub and into my car. Back at the station 15 mins later, no reading. He knew this would be the case, even allowed me to drive behind to the station lol.

[ducatis]

last year when i was on hospital, a guy came in off his chops with the police requesting a blood test to be done because he didnt think he was over...

the nurse told me the blood test ALWAYS reads higher than the breath test, so if you ever get done, never ask for a blood test to be taken.

[11gothevt11]

Has anyone got done the morning after a big night out???
How many hours since your last drink??

[BoNeZ-01]

I never actually got a blood test done, but they gave me the option if I didn't accept their machine results, but probably could have been slightly higher.. lol

[11gothevt11]

Whats was the reading???
What was the fine??

[BoNeZ-01]

lol.. The reading I blew in the bag was 0.065, but at the station, by the time I waited for 15mins or whatever it was, it was down to right on 0.050.
They didn't give me a fine on the spot, just gave me a summons to go to court.
So I went to court, and spun a lot of shit.
They waved the fine, and put me on a 12 months good behaviour bond instead, cause I'd had a good driving record.. till I got done DUI.. lol

[elemeNtz]

Hmm, do qld use schooners the same as NSW?
If so, that is 1.6 standard drinks per glass on heavy. So 3 schooners over 2.5 hours is the equivalent of 4.8 standard drinks. Almost 2 full drinks over the recommended intake of 2.5 hours...

I'm sure this has already been addressed, however this chart is very good for general knowledge

Beer in Australia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[spokkeh]

Has anyone got done the morning after a big night out???
How many hours since your last drink??

Often wonder this myself actually, can anyone answer?

[Maci]

its entirely possible to get done the next day. its recommended that you wait 1 hour per standard drink before you jump behind the wheel. but its only an approximate.
if i drink the night before, i don't even think about getting behind the wheel for 12 hours.

[vr94ss]

Yeah, it happens. I remember a couple of cases when I was young in Perth when the limit was .08. If you want to find info I'd suggest a google search like "dui "next morning" court site:.au" without the outside quotes. Having a binge and driving the next morning is a no-no.
You'll find things like this one: Still DUI the next day | Sunshine Coast News | Local News in Sunshine Coast | The Sunshine Coast Daily