Double Demerits.

[MikeCuzzy]

Anyone else think they are useless? How is it more safe if I have a staring competition with my speedo rather than looking at the road?

I'm red P's so if I speed I lose my license anyway, but what do other drivers think of them?

[SMURFTEC.]

My opinion is they are good because they are enforced over the holiday period when more people are likely to be on the road due to travelling etc etc. than any other given day, with Double Demerits in force you'll find most are more cautious which in turn means they are effective, I'm on my P's to, I tend to passenger around more during them so yeah..

[MR_VX]

i have cruise control lad. or turn the digital speedo on in the cluster.

[MikeCuzzy]

Had too laugh, some P plater came round a corner doing maybe 70-75 in a 60 zone (big sweeper) there was a copper maybe 1 km up the road, flashed my lights- shit he hit the skids

[BlackVXGTS]

Double demerit points have been proven to be a failure in decreasing the road toll in both NSW and QLD.

[TVR-190]

what does this have to do with the vt-vx section.....

[MR_VX]

what does this have to do with the vt-vx section.....

true but just as much as your gay profile picture lol

[SMURFTEC.]

true but just as much as your gay profile picture lol

go read a joke book mate. poor form

[hakhawk]

what does this have to do with the vt-vx section.....

thread moved

[MR_VX]

go read a joke book mate. poor form

i think you need a box of kleenex tessus you sad sack have a cry. It was abit of humor

[Demonica]

I think double points is stupid. Maybe double fines would work better. Who knows, no matter what you do people will speed regardless of how many points or how big the fine. Only thing that worries me is the cops making sure their cameras are calibrated properly only takes a knock and it can put them out.

[SMURFTEC.]

=Who knows, no matter what you do people will speed regardless of how many points or how big the fine=

and those are the people that will get caught out and have to suffer the consequences, the majority of people doing the right thing most of the time dont have to worry about it..

[Demonica]

You can be doing the right thing and still get caught out. Got a ticket in the mail for 70 in a 60 zone there is no way I was. The cops always sit there at least once a week and everyone knows not to speed along that road. I always keep a sharp eye on the speedo. Can't do anything about it. So bye bye $100. Only one point though 11 more left so no biggie.

[vr94ss]

Don't agree with double demerit points. Laws should be consistent. Sure, vary punishment according to severity, but varying it by the day of the year is silly. There was less people on the road around here than a normal Friday, they were almost empty, so why was it more dangerous?

[sheepz]

You can be doing the right thing and still get caught out. Got a ticket in the mail for 70 in a 60 zone there is no way I was. The cops always sit there at least once a week and everyone knows not to speed along that road. I always keep a sharp eye on the speedo. Can't do anything about it. So bye bye $100. Only one point though 11 more left so no biggie.

Try getting a ticket for 'running a red light' when by law i wasn't in the wrong but couldn't prove poo because the camera only takes one photo.... My word against theirs is utter bull.....

[GetToDaChopa]

Every day should be double demerit point day

[STEALTHY™]

You can be doing the right thing and still get caught out. Got a ticket in the mail for 70 in a 60 zone there is no way I was. The cops always sit there at least once a week and everyone knows not to speed along that road. I always keep a sharp eye on the speedo. Can't do anything about it. So bye bye $100. Only one point though 11 more left so no biggie.

Try getting a ticket for 'running a red light' when by law i wasn't in the wrong but couldn't prove poo because the camera only takes one photo.... My word against theirs is utter bull.....

Care to explain your stories? The red light camera one will be a laugh (by law you werent in the wrong, but got a fine, sounds liek by law you were in the wrong)

[Maci]

i think it should be normal demerits, but double the $ fine.
i believe money will slow people down before points on their licence will.

[dannyssvseute]

and those are the people that will get caught out and have to suffer the consequences, the majority of people doing the right thing most of the time dont have to worry about it..

+1..............

[STEALTHY™]

i think it should be normal demerits, but double the $ fine.
i believe money will slow people down before points on their licence will.

What a bloody stupid idea. speeding is ok for the rich?

What do the rich value? their freedom. Double demerits will take them one step closer to losing their license, and short of paying someone to drive them around, thats the idea, to get them off the road.

Anytime monetary value is the sole punishment, it just makes it a bigger punishment for the poor. I think it was minux who said in one of these threads, a fine based on your income, so that way its fair to everyone.

[acarmody]

Well I believe that magistrates should pull their heads out of the rear ends and stop issuing love tap sentencing.

[levymetal]

i think they should reduce the amount of points you can accrue before losing your licence. someone correct me if i'm wrong here, but i'm pretty sure that you can gain up to 12 points in a 3 year period before you lose your licence. to put it into perspective, you can get caught speeding (less than 10km/s over the limit) 4 times every year and you will never lose your licence. that, according to the law, is acceptable.

if that was halved to 6 points in a 3 year period, i'm sure that everyone would be a lot more careful on the roads. there's still a buffer if you make a genuine mistake, but if you speed on purpose be prepared to lose your licence twice as fast. if you are a good driver and follow the speed limits and road rules then you definitely don't need a 12 point buffer.

[STEALTHY™]

i think they should reduce the amount of points you can accrue before losing your licence. someone correct me if i'm wrong here, but i'm pretty sure that you can gain up to 12 points in a 3 year period before you lose your licence. to put it into perspective, you can get caught speeding (less than 10km/s over the limit) 4 times every year and you will never lose your licence. that, according to the law, is acceptable.

if that was halved to 6 points in a 3 year period, i'm sure that everyone would be a lot more careful on the roads. there's still a buffer if you make a genuine mistake, but if you speed on purpose be prepared to lose your licence twice as fast. if you are a good driver and follow the speed limits and road rules then you definitely don't need a 12 point buffer.

I've had 12 for years Never needed them.

[wraith]

Screw that when each defect here is 1 point straight up.

[Jezza]

im glad i live in SA where there is no double demerit points scheme even though i dont do anything stupid its just good to know that