What would you like improved for the VF?

[Berlinarator]

Hi everyone

Just thought I'd throw this out there - not sure whether it's been done before.

For the release of the new VF in September, I thought of a few things which I thought I'd like to see improved.

- New steering wheel (VY/VZ one is much more comfortable)
- Better handbrake design
- Go back to having a remote release inside the vehicle for the fuel door
- Higher interior quality in terms of finish/fitting
- Re-introduction of 8 way electric passenger seat on Calais V

One other thing I'd like to add; what are your thoughts on Holden running the VE series for 4 years (longest yet). There are a lot of them out there (because the VE was popular too) but the resale isn't too good now for most models (not that Holden was renowned for good resale value anyway). Sticking traditionally to 3 years may suit better??? It has been a long wait for the VF...

What does everyone think?

[greenacc]

reduce weight by about 500kg , better hand brake, thinner pillars so you can to the sides, cut down the width by about 6 inches, bigger boot

[nemesis_adrasteia]

MOAR POWER

and drop the puss box alloytech

[Astranomical]

For one thing, I'd like to see them come up with a better quality interior. While its comfortable enough, and it looks good, I can't stand the cheap plastics they use. Like, I mean my Astra is only an economy car, yet the fit and finish and overall quality of its interior is a cut above the interior of Dad's VE Berlina. Secondly, they need to chop some of the weight out of it, and if they could make it a bit shorter without compromising on interior space (maybe reduce the depth of the boot a bit), maybe get it back to the length of the VT - VZ, that would be grand.

[VSHeaven]

Structual changes won't happen but here is my list. A better quality dash, leather and handbrake improvement. Biggest changes should be cabin noise reduction on the V6 and "road noise/suspension feel" through the steering. I could be a lot pickier but that would go a long way for me.

[minux]

Make it feel less cheap on the inside and look less chunky on the outside.

[CSP]

For the release of the new VF in September, I thought of a few things which I thought I'd like to see improved.

- New steering wheel (VY/VZ one is much more comfortable)
- Better handbrake design
- Go back to having a remote release inside the vehicle for the fuel door
- Higher interior quality in terms of finish/fitting
- Re-introduction of 8 way electric passenger seat on Calais V

One other thing I'd like to add; what are your thoughts on Holden running the VE series for 4 years (longest yet). There are a lot of them out there (because the VE was popular too) but the resale isn't too good now for most models (not that Holden was renowned for good resale value anyway). Sticking traditionally to 3 years may suit better??? It has been a long wait for the VF...

What does everyone think?

VE HSV wheel is one of the best ever IMO!
Handbrake design is also great. Completely integrated when not engaged. I.e. when you're driving.
Fuel door is lockable. Why a release inside? It's just something else to collect dust and dirt in the crevices.
Interior quality is MUCH better than VZ. Panel gaps, alignment and plastics are all superior.
My Calais V has 8 way electronic adjustment in both front seats, driver's side with memory.

The resale is lower because new car prices, when adjusted for inflation, are SO much cheaper now than they ever used to be. Resale on such a high volume car is also always going to be worse than imports. Nothing you can do about resale really. And there is an argument that having less time between models HELPS with resale values. If you had to choose between a 2006 VE and a 2009 VE second hand. If the km were similar, the price would also be similar. Mercedes go nearly 10 years between models.

Some improvements that could be made...

Touch screen head unit.
Heated seats.
Auto up/down on all windows.
Integrated antenna.
Integrated HDD with MP3 compatibility.
Integrated SD slot.
Better interior trim options. Alcantara is SO much better than leather.
Spring loaded bootlid that opens on its own with the button.
HID BiXenon self leveling headlights.
Double clutch gearboxes.
Push botton and/or proximity start.

All basics IMO when comparing with other marques. Holden, as always, are playing catch up with the rest of the world.

[illusionalvr]

buy a good quality car and rebadge it as holden... maybe a great wall?

should be able to order any colour. any custom colour.

[Reaper]

Inside could do with a freshen up and use better quality plastics in the centre console. Thinner pillars (not happening).

Reaper

[illusionalvr]

my mate has a ve sv6 ute with the hard top. looks good, cant see past it.

[vk.jonno]

better interior, more power lol basically what everyone else has said!

[SV6SidiUTE]

less plastic.

[Jezza]

i agree with minux but while i like the VEs shape i think they need to look smaller than they actually are and a different dash would be good and if the new one lasts another 4 years then i wouldnt want to have a dash that only been changed slightly i would want a new style one (like vx-vy) with better quality and better quality speakers in the upper models

[nemesis_adrasteia]

change the tail lights, they look terrible

[Tim Smtih]

While its comfortable enough, and it looks good, I can't stand the cheap plastics they use.

Yeah the sort of plastic that after several years exposure to heat and sunlight disintegrate at the slightest touch. Don't skimp on the interior please guys!

[stockyvrcalais]

the price

[vicarious]

std. reverse cameras

[Shearer]

For those wanting a revised dash...........

spy picture interior new Holden Commodore Series 2

[ari666]

holden should do something really different to their norm... they should design a car that looks good.

[Blown V6 Hatch]

holden should do something really different to their norm... they should design a car that looks good.

Oh come one man, Holden have designed plenty of good looking cars over the years. They just dropped the ball recently thats all.

[88GreenVN]

I thought it was funny that the new director of Holdens stated last week that the Holden brand is starting to be really accepted in Australia. Sad thing is he was for real.

Ummm der: what a knucklehead.

As for the new VF - make it look very different to the VE Please

[ari666]

Oh come one man, Holden have designed plenty of good looking cars over the years. They just dropped the ball recently thats all.

FB
FC
FJ
HG
HK
HT
EH
HR
LJ
VH (starting to tread into ugly territory)


and thats about it really. a looong time between drinks.

[Blown V6 Hatch]

FB =ugly
FC =ugly
FJ =only in a ute
HG =sexy time
HK =sexy time
HT =sexy time
HQ =sexy time, probably the sexiest Holden sedan ever made
HJ-Z =would only have a ute, mabye a stato or a GTS. Not a standard sedan.
EH =Meh, only if it's tubbed & blown
HR =Yeh, i'll pay that
LJ =LC for me
LX=sexy time
UC=I've gotta like it, i have one Not many peoples cup of tea though...
VH (starting to tread into ugly territory)=yeh, i also don't mind VK, but again they have to be tough.
I also like VN. (obviously)


and thats about it really. a looong time between drinks.

I added a few for you

I think a poll is in order....

[soop]

Ari, you're a tripper.
You like the classics which is all well and good. But I'll bet you there was someone back in 1971 carying on the same way as you are now about the HQ.

Every model has its up and down sides.

[stockyvrcalais]

i heard that as of september this year holden are discontinuing the statesman, dont know how true it is