axe the car tax (NSW drivers)

[ausrs]

"Join the campaign calling on the NSW Labor Government to axe its proposed new $500 million tax on vehicle registrations in NSW.

Recently current Premier Kristina Keneally announced her latest attack on NSW motorists. Kristina Keneally & NSW Labor are going to tax drivers to pay for their Sydney Transport Election Scam.

What makes it worse is that the big new tax depends on the size of your car. This means people driving medium to large cars will be taxed to the max.

It is especially unfair on people in regional areas. Firstly, they are paying a new tax for Sydney transport infrastructure, which they wont have regular access to and secondly, country people drive long distances on bad roads and need bigger cars.

In addition, Labor's dubious record on infrastructure delivery means that the projects motorists are paying for will probably never be delivered.

This big new tax is a bad idea and the NSW Liberals & Nationals have already started taking up the fight.
Sign the online petition today and help Axe Labor’s Car Tax!"

Axe The Car Tax

PS I didnt write this & I got this from Andrew Stoners MPs site, I'm not a Liberal/Labor or Greens supporter either but this is a good cause

[acarmody]

SO what is the current NSW rego cost? Here in Queensland I just paid $840ish for 1-year of rego on a V6.

[Grennan]

Yeah it will bring the rego in NSW on par to what it is in Queensland, or atleast close. The rego in Queensland is an absolute joke.

[minux]

lol, this is standard policy for Labor. Tax until you get kicked out of power, or your deputy knifes you or unions decide the current leader is no good.

Signed petition using my old army address

[TVR-190]

Good on Andrew Stoner, actually seems like he has a bit of a clue regarding most things, I remember he tried hard against the rediculous lowering / raising laws that they tried to bring in a while back.

[acarmody]

Yeah it will bring the rego in NSW on par to what it is in Queensland, or atleast close. The rego in Queensland is an absolute joke.

Sure bloody is. While in the Southern states there are a million and one ways to get defected, in QLD you have some of the highest car costs.

[Swordsy]

Yeah it will bring the rego in NSW on par to what it is in Queensland, or atleast close. The rego in Queensland is an absolute joke.

I just paid about $840 rego for a V6 VT, Seems about the same for me.

This stupid F****** NSW Government should just go and shoot themselves, they are a bunch of wankers.

They've just upped the tax on motorbikes stupidly and now this.

[dirt drifter]

stupid me thinking i was going to get cheaper rego when i move to nsw.

whats this motorbike tax they've upped recently?

[Swordsy]

from another site

Your CTP is going up.
NSW CTP Greenslips change from 1 July and no one bothered to tell us because they thought we wouldn’t notice.
The Motorcycle Council of NSW and Bikers Australia are unaware of the extent of the changes based on my calls to them today.
The new categories are as follows;
100 to 226
226 to 726
726 to 1125
1125 to 1325
1325 and over

Bike Capacity Pre 1 July New Price 1 July Percent increase
250 $252 $465 84%
600 $663 $465 -30%
750 $663 $682 3%
1000 $663 $682 3%
1150 $663 $880 32%
1350 $663 $780 18%

Prices are an average of the top 3 prices gleaned from the MAA Greenslip calculator.
Information based on;
2004 model bike
Metro area rego.
Driver 48 Y/O
No Demerit points
No other insurance
No roadside assist.
No at fault
Private Registration

URL Legislative Assembly members
Legislative Assembly Members (by Electorate) - NSW Parliament

Minister for Roads David Borger
minister@borger.minister.nsw.gov.au

Shadow Minister for Roads Andrew Stoner
oxley@parliament.nsw.gov.au


Basically email/write/drop into your local member and the transport minister and advise the following;
You vote and will vote for the person that supports you.
Ask why is this happening
Ask what are they doing about it.
Ask why the split of capacities is so obviously designed to gouge the maximum amount out of Motorcyclists

[Grennan]

I remember when my old VR was registered in Queensland, it was registered at my dads place in Surfers Paradise, it cost me I think it was 830 a year and for him to register his VE Maloo it cracked the thousand dollar mark, from memory it was 1080 a year or thereabouts.

[dirt drifter]

i just put 6 months qld rego on my 5L vs, $500. a years rego would have cost me a grand.

damn thats harsh with the bike ctp increase in nsw. hurts to be anyone who has a car and bike now. next thing they will want a weeks pay to rego a bike trailer

[Ace_VP]

the greenslip for my 2.5l turbo diesel 4wd is $500 give or take a few bucks and rego is $350 give or take a few.

Not only do they sting us on tax for rego the cost of greenslips continuously goes up and up to cover this bullshit thing or another. Its crap, and so are the roads.

[trav_304]

i have to v8's and that is $980 each for 12 months its crap

[CSP]

The cost of running a car in Australia is extremely cheap by global standards (not counting the USA). For instance, my Dad in Denmark runs two cars. A late 2003 Renault Megane hatch and a 2006 Citroen C5 Estate. Total cost of purchasing both used cars (within the last two years) just over what would be $100,000 Australian. That's due to the large car taxes on purchasing of cars. Then we get to annual car taxes on TOP of registration (which is similar to Australia). Annual cost of the hatch in extra taxes is around $8,000 Australian and the annual cost of the wagon is around $14,000 Australian.

They also have laws that mean cars over 10 years old must be replaced unless a similar model is no longer available. This is subsidised partly by the taxes they pay.

I for one am in FAVOUR of such vehicle usage taxes and laws. PROVIDED 100% of the money goes back into roads and infrastructure, driver education and testing and road safety. This is what happens in Denmark (as well as other European countries). But as this wouldn't happen with any government in the near future, I don't support it in Australia. Just pointing out that when implemented properly, it is a GOOD thing. Roads aren't as congested, they're safer, drivers are better drivers, roads are safer and average safety of cars is better.

As well as those costs, they live with petrol prices around $3 a litre Australian as part of daily life.

So while Australians continue to whinge and moan and complain about everything to do with owning a car, you have a choice. You can choose not to own onwe. It's not a right! If the government puts all the extra money back into fixing the roads for one, then go for it! I would VOTE FOR THAT TAX. But as I said, not going to happen.

[minux]

The cost of running a car in Australia is extremely cheap by global standards (not counting the USA). For instance, my Dad in Denmark runs two cars. A late 2003 Renault Megane hatch and a 2006 Citroen C5 Estate. Total cost of purchasing both used cars (within the last two years) just over what would be $100,000 Australian. That's due to the large car taxes on purchasing of cars. Then we get to annual car taxes on TOP of registration (which is similar to Australia). Annual cost of the hatch in extra taxes is around $8,000 Australian and the annual cost of the wagon is around $14,000 Australian.

They also have laws that mean cars over 10 years old must be replaced unless a similar model is no longer available. This is subsidised partly by the taxes they pay.

I for one am in FAVOUR of such vehicle usage taxes and laws. PROVIDED 100% of the money goes back into roads and infrastructure, driver education and testing and road safety. This is what happens in Denmark (as well as other European countries). But as this wouldn't happen with any government in the near future, I don't support it in Australia. Just pointing out that when implemented properly, it is a GOOD thing. Roads aren't as congested, they're safer, drivers are better drivers, roads are safer and average safety of cars is better.

As well as those costs, they live with petrol prices around $3 a litre Australian as part of daily life.

So while Australians continue to whinge and moan and complain about everything to do with owning a car, you have a choice. You can choose not to own onwe. It's not a right! If the government puts all the extra money back into fixing the roads for one, then go for it! I would VOTE FOR THAT TAX. But as I said, not going to happen.

Denmark also has a public transport system that works and a much smaller country. Fuel at $3 litre here would cripple industry. There is a reason it isnt taxed higher.

[Grennan]

Also CSP, can you point out these new and improved roads to me? Theyve been doing roadworks on the Monash here for the last decade (or so it seems) and the quality is shocking. Monash Speedbump ftw.

I would be happy to know my rego fees actually get spent on improved driver education, trainining etc etc. Simple fact is, it doesn't so they can go shove it. Just like speed camera revenue. That could be thrown into driver training and eduction, instead its in the states pockets building new sports stadiums.

[stockyvrcalais]

Also CSP, can you point out these new and improved roads to me? Theyve been doing roadworks on the Monash here for the last decade (or so it seems) and the quality is shocking. Monash Speedbump ftw.

I would be happy to know my rego fees actually get spent on improved driver education, trainining etc etc. Simple fact is, it doesn't so they can go shove it. Just like speed camera revenue. That could be thrown into driver training and eduction, instead its in the states pockets building new sports stadiums.

most roads here in Vic are a joke, ie. Ring Road, between rego, fines etc, you think we should have roads paved in gold.

[Jesterarts]

Yeah, comparing Australia to european countries when it comes to car running costs is a bit silly.

The public transport system is Europe is AMAZING!! The roads are increadible (apart from France where is seems they haven't quite reached the industrial revolution yet) and there is ALOT more cars on the roads there.

In Australia on the other had, the have a shocking transport system that the goverment keeps telling us to use instead of driving and then they tax the hell out of anything car related to 'encourage' people onto public transport.

All we can do it suck it up and keep forking out, just wait until they decided to introduce congestion charges like some European cities...

[CSP]

On the contrary actually. Public transport systems from a tourists point of view aren't too bad and international are great. But domestic and inner city / suburban public transport is almost as bad as Australia. Largely thanks to over crowding. So while the trains are faster and there are more routes, they aren't less crowded. Although they do run on time.

[sleepa]

On the contrary actually. Public transport systems from a tourists point of view aren't too bad and international are great. But domestic and inner city / suburban public transport is almost as bad as Australia. Largely thanks to over crowding. So while the trains are faster and there are more routes, they aren't less crowded. Although they do run on time.

I know when I was over there they all ran on time, and had heaps of trains/trams running so you never had to wait long for one. I haven't been squished onto a late train in melbourne for years (thank god!) Coz I never use them when I am there.

Do you guys have to pay more for rego for V8s or something. Those prices are ridiculous, mine is around $600, which I thought was a bit much, coz 5 years ago it used to be around $450

[Tsunamix]

Public transport in brisbane is a joke. The rail/bus system serves 137 suburbs, of the 442 that is the Brisbane and Moreton region. The additional Brisbane city council bus service serves only the inner or old Brisbane metro are - it's services terminate at Bald Hills on the North side for intance, pity the Brisbane and Moreton region stretches 35 km further North to Caboolture.

From the brisbane city council's own reports - there was 13,485,302 all mode daily passenger trips using all modes of transport - including walking, in the brisbane CBD hub. Private transport (motor vehicle, taxi, limo etc) provided 510, 528 and public transport in total - provided 235, 948 of them. And this is int the most densely serviced area in Brisbane ! There are more buses and trains in the CBD that in the entirety oif the rest of the city !

LInky to the Light Rail Feasability study

My sister has no car, and travels from Lawnton to Bulimba every day. A distance of about 35Km when driven. Straight line is under 28 km. 2 hours travel time by public transport

[CSP]

Do you guys have to pay more for rego for V8s or something. Those prices are ridiculous, mine is around $600, which I thought was a bit much, coz 5 years ago it used to be around $450

Rego for most cars in the ACT is between $700 and $900. But it also includes CTP.

[Grennan]

Queensland pays on a cylinder basis.

Transport here in Melbourne is even worse. Trains are rarely ever on time, if they are theyre so full you cant get on. In summer they simply do not work. A couple of weeks ago one got stuck in the City Loop tunnels.

[sleepa]

Rego for most cars in the ACT is between $700 and $900. But it also includes CTP.

Yeah, CTP is included in our rego too, you only pay more for rego if you drive a truck, and you pay a little less for a motorbike.
Even when we rego cars for the first time, we only have to pay a tax on how much it costs, not capacity or cylinders, I reckon leave that to the insurance companies

[MasterOfReality]

Public transport in brisbane is a joke. The rail/bus system serves 137 suburbs, of the 442 that is the Brisbane and Moreton region. The additional Brisbane city council bus service serves only the inner or old Brisbane metro are - it's services terminate at Bald Hills on the North side for intance, pity the Brisbane and Moreton region stretches 35 km further North to Caboolture.

From the brisbane city council's own reports - there was 13,485,302 all mode daily passenger trips using all modes of transport - including walking, in the brisbane CBD hub. Private transport (motor vehicle, taxi, limo etc) provided 510, 528 and public transport in total - provided 235, 948 of them. And this is int the most densely serviced area in Brisbane ! There are more buses and trains in the CBD that in the entirety oif the rest of the city !

LInky to the Light Rail Feasability study

My sister has no car, and travels from Lawnton to Bulimba every day. A distance of about 35Km when driven. Straight line is under 28 km. 2 hours travel time by public transport

Try living on the west side, with virtually zero services compared to the south side.

Moggill Road which is a joke, the last train station on the west side of the river is indooroopilly, plus the fares are going up each year.

Where I live I have 2 options - drive to indro station, or go to an ipswich station. I chose the ipswich station simply because there is no traffic compared to what I would have to put up with on Moggill Road and it takes half the time to get there. My weekly fare in 2014 with be nearly $90 for the train. Anna Bligh can go and fark herself as I'll be driving then. Be stuffed if I'm going to fork out for the same old clapped out stinky trains and shithouse reliability.

I'm actually starting to think that its got to do with politics - the west side where I live is blue ribbon liberal territory, and the south side is Labor, which coincedently has had the most amount of money poured into it.

And back onto the trains, the variance in arrival times in incredible. Mine is supposed to arrive at Central at 7.55am. I have arrived there as early as 7.45 am and as late at 8.10 am. Maybe she should sell the ***n trains, the service would probably improve.