SkyFall
QLD- Tough new learner rules
O.K , Not really
Learner drivers allowed to speed, drive with one hand, stall vehicle and still pass test | News.com.au
* Allowed to speed 5km/h over limit five times
* Can stall six times, steer with one hand
* Driving examiners angered at changes
LEARNER drivers will be allowed to speed up to five times during their driving test and still pass under a new testing regime in Queensland.
Speeding was the leading cause of death on Queensland roads in the past year but it will continue to be permitted during the practical tests following a state government review of the assessment process, The Courier-Mail reports.
The new criteria, coming into effect on Monday, means drivers can travel at up to 5km/h over the limit on five occasions during the 30-minute test. At present they are allowed to exceed the limit by up to nine per cent three times during a test, before failing.
The Queensland driver test also allows examinees to stall six times before failing, steer with one hand on six occasions and fail to indicate six times. Drivers can also fail to start the engine five times and pass.
The changes have angered driving examiners, who question why there should be any tolerance for speed during a licence test.
Transport and Main Roads statistics for the year until the end of May 2010 show 58 people were killed as a result of speed- more than drink-driving (54), fatigue (40) or not wearing a seat belt (46).
Professor Barry Watson, from the Centre for Accident Research and Road Safety Queensland, said even small increases in the speed limit could double a person's crash risk.
"There has to be some scope for tolerance (in a driving test) but we want to keep them to a minimum," Prof Watson said.
"If the tolerance is too high people might learn the wrong lesson from the test. The wider concern is if the public perception is it doesn't matter if you speed on your test."
The review of the licence assessment was undertaken last year after The Courier-Mail revealed the generous tolerance margins for speeding afforded to drivers being tested.
A TMR spokesman said the new model was "consistent with other states and provided more clarity".
This is despite the TMR categorising speed as one of the "fatal four" and pushing the slogan "Every K over is a killer".
"Anyone driving at a speed which would attract a fine from police, automatically fails their exam," the TMR spokesman said.
"It still recognises the margin for error of digital tachometers and the angle of distortion for driving examiners sitting in a passenger seat."
Transport Minister Rachel Nolan said changing the driving test built on the Government's plan to target speeding among young drivers.
"A combination of measures to reduce speeding is having a real impact on the road toll," she said.
"It's down 30 per cent on last year."
Opposition transport spokeswoman Fiona Simpson said the changes sent an inconsistent message.
"It just seems to be quite a confused message - on one hand telling the broader public they're not going to tolerate the (speeding) margins and on the other allowing drivers to go over the limit during the test without failing."
Prof Watson said some tolerance was needed for "anxiety related errors" but reviews of the test were a positive move.
The Black Beauty
Ecotec just kicked in yo
What a stupid idea...I thought they were supposed to be improving the licensing system, not screwing it up even more? Stalling I can understand...thats something we all do, but what the hell are they thinking allowing people to go even 5 k's over the limit and steer with one hand?
Edit - just read the article...they're also going to allow you to fail to indicate 6 times and fail to start the engine 5 times...WTF? If you can't even start the engine, clearly you shouldn't be on the road!
Your guess is as good as mine......
Space Invaders Champion!
what more can i say, true to the qld slogan, "qld the smart state" bit of a joke, what is even more funnier is they are rolling out new speed cammera's all over the place in qld, the fixed type. what they are saying is it's ok to speed, but dont speed, cause we will fine you. bit of a joke,
i am the god of britany spears womanizer on just dance on the wii
Yeah, I cant see how this is positive. I bet some politicians son or daughter failed to many times so they made the test easier so they could pass.
All it does is lower the calibre of drivers on the road.
Rolling on 4 again :D
Slayer of Stupid Threads
LOL. How can someone who fails to indicate and stall their car multiple times be allowed to drive. Jesus christ.
Rolling on 4 again :D
Also, farking lol @:
The most critical people are always the most clueless, heh.steve Posted at 9:31 AM Today
The car companies should be held accountable for their product. If cars were built without the ability to drive OVER 120k, then it wouldn't be such a problem. Once we have a law suit against a BIG car company, then finally this might stop.
SkyFall
Originally Posted by Stressball
probly a bloody cyclist......
The Black Beauty
yeah lets blame car manufacturers because some of the people going for their licence are gimps. Dont worry about training drivers properly that wont work. If we speed limit cars to 10k/hr fatal crashes would be reduces dramatically. LOL
Mrs Wraith
Queensland road rules are a bloody joke. If they can't pass their driving test 99% perfect then they shouldn't pass end of story! NOT lets relax the rules so we can get more kids on the road that can't drive for crap and let them kill themselves or other people.
Hand over the dog bikkies
I am all for the stalling thing. I was shocking at stalling but found the reason was mostly because of having some one assessing me making me nervous rather then poor driving skill. As for the speeding thing maybe 5 times is a bit much. When I got my P's I passed doing all these things as my assessor said after I get my P's I would do it any way...
Ecotec just kicked in yo
There's also the issue that some cars have a more touchy clutch than others. For example, the Mitsubishi Mirage I did my manual test in stalled if you even looked at it funny. When I started driving my parents' Hilux I didn't keep stalling all the time as I did in the Mirage. Out of all the changes that they're making, thats the only one that I can understand, and support.
For what its worth I kept on stalling during my test because of that car, in fact I first stalled doing a reverse park on a Falcon just down the road from the transport department. I thought a stall was an instant fail and after that put bugger all effort into the test, even so I still passed...the examiner actually told me it doesn't matter how many times you stall...keep in mind this was 2 years ago. *shrugs*
Donati..Whoa Green
OK maybe allowing the learner top go over the speed limit 5 times is a bit much, but remember that doing 61km/h on a 60km/h road isn't going to kill someone but it will give you a cross. Also I don't believe that you can drive on-handed six times and stall six times and fail to indicate six times, its 6 driving errors TOTAL. Also I believe going over the speed limit by more than 5km/h is an instant fail.
-Democracy must be something more than two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner.
James Bovard, Civil Libertarian (1994)
-Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys.
P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian
-Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short Phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops moving, subsidize it.
Ronald Reagan (1986)
VR Buicks > You ;)
Wow, and i thought the Vic test was easy.
Rolling on 4 again :D
Just saw this on tv, they've announced the new rules are being scrapped. Still, 3 chances to speed before you fail. No more details yet though
No no no. They just trying to instill speeding in to new drivers so they can keep fine revenue up.
YEEHAAAAAAAH
Thats bull shit giving them so many chances. I sped once going down hill doing 42km/h in a 40km/h school zone and it was an instant fail. Was pissed as hell and had to book again and wait another two months before I could get tested again. They should be making it harder to pass your license not easier- maybe then less kids will get killed on our roads.
this just shows that qld people cant drive for shit and are most likely the worst drivers in aussie.....
(i got my liecence in qld)
Mrs Wraith
Really?? I always thought Victorians were the worst drivers lol
Rolling on 4 again :D
I've said it before and I'll say it again; New South Wales only exists as a barrier to slow the migration of Victorians to Queensland. Their shit drivers are moving up hereBut naw, QLD drivers definitely do suck hairy testiclites.
Mrs Wraith
Dude- nice imagery there...........you see that a lot while you are out driving?
Rolling on 4 again :D
The quote doesn't need to be edited, 'testiclites' was intentional
Mrs Wraith
Sorry spell check automatically fixed it.The quote doesn't need to be edited, 'testiclites' was intentional
Dunno the edit sounds funnier anyway
dont believe all u read in the shitty papers....i'm a driving instructor...nothing..zip..zero has changed..all bullshit and a beat up...and i'm the first to know....
oh..and by the way...driving test is fair....its just when the ########s get a P on their licence.....cant put brains in monkeys....
Posting Permissions
LinkBack URL
About LinkBacks
Reply With Quote
