A home for hoons >>>>what do u think?
Hey fellow hoons , have been thinking about this for awhile now , i was going to approach the goverment/police/automotive indistry and see with the right sponsership from the above if we could build a place where hoons could spend the weekend doing their thing . I know it would take much red tape and $$$$ , but if we could get everyone on board do you think we could come up with an answer that is win win for all?
hers how i see it ....
would be a powercruise type thing , but every weekend .........
venue would be exsisting or purpose built .........
venue would have speed/tyre/work/xzort/etc shops on site ...........
on site service station ..........
mackas/kfc/old fitties hamberger/milkbar joint ..........
camping area ........
pits n sheds and well you get the idea eh ....
LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK ......Cheers Bubbs
Obese Commodores
Government wouldn't go for it. They'd say it encourages hooning. It'd cost a bunch too. Really they spend a fee million on prisioners why not spend 100k on something to 1.help people blow off steams and 2. Save lifes
Blues Brother # 2
That's not going to achieve anything, people will still behave like idiots on the road. Dumb idea, sorry.
Got Milk ???
the way i see it the reason people do it on the street an not on the track is because it is easier you dont need to have ur car checked over rego ,road wortheyness (sorry about speeling) ect you just pull up to a set of lights give ol mate a nod an your away so i dont think it would work. just my 2 cents
if the gov was approuched with how it would be in there interest ie; less police used to control in one place .... able to inforce laws better coz they now surply said place .... general crusing on streets n crime from such ... combine this with club and automotive n police backup AND the bad publisity lately ......hmmmm 50/50?Originally Posted by RichoKidd
Unfortunately, as good as your intentions are mate it just won't happen.
This sorta thing doesn't get votes for politicians, as logical as it is to let us use it.
But the problem is that the low end of the gene pool who think it's cool to rip doughies and burnouts on public roads all the time f*ck it for the rest of us.
yeah .... bet u had a dumb time a powercruise to eh, i think if you build this the higher quility cars will show(or those that dont do it on the street)then others will come just to hang and talk about or favorite subject (women lol)hence im hoping it would become more of a trend to do the rite thing. Remember everything im talking about is already out there , im just talking about brinning it all together in one place and making it more regular for all ...... But who knows you mite b rite , just a dumb idea ....and dont be sorry i put it up to get your opinions Cheers Bubbs
The reason why it won't get off the ground is ...Insurance. The government would have to appoint a controlling entity to look after peoples safety. They couldn't get the requisite third part insurance for government administered bodies.
Private entities can take risks, public entities cannot....
I feel your pain brother , but if im honest i was in that gene pool once , but even they arent that stupid hmmm $400 and 3pnts or $100 for the w/end LEGAL , and soon enuff these guys are going to be such a problem that the pollies will have to ask someone what to do , may as well be the ones causing the problem and if we have a plan and back up dont you think there are more likely to listen? Cheers Bubbs
To a certain degree Guppy had the same problem(and is still facing it in the usa) there are insurance companys that will go ahead and the gov sansions this with public all the time (goldcoast prix n v8s supers) Bubbs
A bogan utopia.
This day and age, someone has to make money, this will not be financially viable.
Powercruise has trouble running in one of the capitals now and thats an event that is held once a year.
If you run for Prime Minister mate, I'll vote for you, but there is a long road ahead if you want to get there lol
Good Luck
The government sanctions it only because there is government advertising pressure, and because the government spends the time and money to have safety officers on hand, and the safety equipment and provisions inspected and in place. Be pretty hard to do that without a decent budget. Alot of motorsport complexes have other revenues they can use to do just that and obtain sanction.
Put it this way - if a bloke with some land, miles from anywhere, built a large, safety barrier enclosed skidpan and figure 8 track, and allowed average joes to come and hoon at their own risk, he would get shutdown quick smart. No matter what you sign, their are laws about the property owners duty of care, public access, etc that come into play.
Not that I agree - our fun at our own risk is being legislated to death and I hate it, but I had some involvement with Lakeside raceway and these were some of the issues that make provate track days very very difficult.
If anything im sure crap loads of fights would break out because of cars, burnouts etc. Ego's would take over.
With great cars, comes great drivers.
LOL ....funny you should say that ,, in nz christchurch this has become that much of a problem that the buisness and the general public say they would vote for anyone how could give them back there city ... Bubbs
You mean this problem? Powercruise Promotions
And the pics of that problem? Hotrod Power Tour 2010
[QUOTE=Tsunamix;1611608]The government sanctions it only because there is government advertising pressure, and because the government spends the time and money to have safety officers on hand, and the safety equipment and provisions inspected and in place. Be pretty hard to do that without a decent budget. Alot of motorsport complexes have other revenues they can use to do just that and obtain sanction.
Put it this way - if a bloke with some land, miles from anywhere, built a large, safety barrier enclosed skidpan and figure 8 track, and allowed average joes to come and hoon at their own risk, he would get shutdown quick smart. No matter what you sign, their are laws about the property owners duty of care, public access, etc that come into play.
Not that I agree - our fun at our own risk is being legislated to death and I hate it, but I had some involvement with Lakeside raceway and these were some of the issues that make provate track days very very difficult.[/QUO
Difficult yes but doable?maybe we should talk , would love to get info off someone in the know , maybe you could pm me your number? Cheers Bubbs
now if it can be done in a country where you can sue someone for looking at your shoelaces , then maybe we just need to pull up our sleaves and get through the red tape bullshit eh?
Jump in your HSV Berlina and head straight for parliament house!
A couple of years ago we had a similar type of set up in the Northern subs of Melbourne call "DRAGTAG" inside they had an new tech set up that used huge ass projector screens and a dyno which basicly let you race around a virtual reality race track (bit of fun but mostly for the ricers) and out the back they had a purpose built burnout pad. Burn out comps were held every couple of months and they would have play time every thur, fri,and sat, night in a mini comp type set up. It was something like 15 Bucks to do as many 2 minute runs you could on the night, (with a tyre supplier on site at 10 buck each fitted). during the time it was opperating there was a noticable down fall in Hooning behavour around the area. Due to the big bucks they were making building the VR set up for overseas markets they closed down the operation.
And the latest development in that saga... new legislation makes you a criminal for simply cruising in the wrong place! Its trendy at present to stamp out all forms of related activities in an attempt to stop the dangerous stuff. However anyone who even vaguely remembers what its like to be young and stupid will realise that making safe activities illegal is only going to encourage a bit of rebellion, why not go street racing when its viewed as no worse than cruising? I hope that the younger generation is smart enough to figure things out for themselves because suitable role models are becoming few and far between, lawmakers are teaching them that everyone is a criminal regardless of what you do so why bother trying to keep your nose clean?
Sorry, rant over. Someone needs to lead by example, good luck with your ideas. Start small but think big.
captain halfajob
90% of car modifications are illegal. you reckon the govt are going to encourage people to fit illegal exhausts, then hit a skid pan then drive home?
someone mentioned dragtag, its a real shame that shut. that business idea had BIG potential
This would be a good idea, but more people need to get on board. If everyone just whinges about this being impossible then it won't happen.
Every one who wants this(which I assume is most people interested in cars) needs to be pro-active about it, even if it is just signing a petition.
I am studying in a motorsports course and involved in FSAE and would be definately interested in helping out if we could organise something.
As for ********s on the road that won't learn no matter what, they won't be allowed in the legal "hoon heaven" for repeat hoon offences and then they will lose their licence/car eventually so that's them dealt with and will send an example to others.
we all know this , but if your saying for the w/end(powercruise)then yes drop ya pipes n let your hair down , as i said police at gate , up to you to get car rite to go home, and why not they say dont drink and drive but you can go to a drive through , they dont mind collecting the tax of that now do they?Thats why i say if u can get the rite peeps on side anything can happen. Imagine being cheeky enuff to get a pub on site lol and yes it was a real shame it closed , bet they had there knockers to on start up
VT V6 wanting 300RWHP
It won't stop everybody YES that's true, but it will get some of the idiots off the road. Doing nothing apart from raising revenue for the government to solve the issue is a stupid way to deal with it.
Did the government not build shooting up centers for the heroin addicts to shoot up in, so a lot of needles were not discarded on the streets for people to prick themselves with. They done that to help cure the issue, IT HAS NOT STOPPED IT BUT IT'S HELPED A QUITE A BIT.
The same goes for getting speeding drivers off the roads lives are at risk. Instead of the government raising money from speeding fines and such to stop the issue, they should farking spend some money to develop safe areas for people to do what they are going to do.
Insurance wise there are company's that would be willing to. If the complex is built to strict standards there should be no need for an incident to happen. who insures WSID and places like that? someone does.
That's my 2cents worth
Having a purpose built site may work, however you would need to get all the car clubs in on the idea. Get them pooling their rersources. Then in order to use the facility you need to be in a club on a registered club outing. Insurance problem solved.
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