In NSW can you be charged if a number of witneses acuse you of speeding and spinning the wheels?
HWP officer says he has five statements.
WERE you speeding and spinning the wheels?
yes they can.
If you were seen by 5 people doing a burnout and they can name the location and there appear to be fresh burnout marks at the location then yes you can be charged.
Did you do it?
should just tell the whole story. Was turning left at a stop sigh in a residential area on a hill. the road is painted red to indicate that its a narrow lane way. so as i took off the wheels squeek pretty loud on the painted surface then i accelerate up the road to around 60kmh. my car is pretty loud so its atracted attention. One of the residents came up to my house and abused me and punched me which led to a fight. the police were called. I left for work after the fight and got a phone call from HWP that they had five witness statements about my driving (no witness to the fight) and would be catching up soon.
Try oiling your wheels so they don't squeak so loud
there are three types of people in the world , those who can count and those who can't
well i would think they would video proof cuz how do the cops know you were behind the wheel
i know if a cop trys to say you were speeding without a radar or camear they cant fine you even if there are five cops as they canot prove without a doubt what speed you were going
so they need video proof or you can just say let your mate drive that you only know him by his nickname and you only see him at the pub and he was driving cuz you wernt able to drive see it's that easy
Just argue that you had a disagreement with someone and they're ganging up on you. You must have been punching it if you left noticeable marks.
Was there anyone home with you when they confronted you.
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Epic thread fail.
Ace_VP, who is a cop says you can, yet a few others here follow his post saying you can't be charged and offer up ways to get out of it.
Do you kids seriously think you know the law better than a Police Officer?
They dont need to know how fast exactly there is an offence for speeding in certain ranges. Police can estimate speed within a certain range and you get a ticket.
Not knowing who was driving isnt an issue either because they put the form of demand on the vehicles owner and if they are unable to state the name and address of who was driving the owner commits and offence.
They also dont need video proof, 5 witness statements is enough evidence.
To the OP I would also suggest you pursue assault charges against old mate who punched you, punching someone for chirping their wheels isnt exactly the right way to go about things.
but you have also said that you did squeel your tyres so technically you have committed an offence. But you would need to take the matter to court, take photos of the road etc and prove to the court that you didnt do it intentionally.
so pretty much what you are saying if four of my mates got together we could go around getting people in shit mmmm it dont sound right it sounds like text book bullshit to me and i know my way around the law seeing as i know many ppl in the system and have gotton off many tickets for lack of evidence
a point of mine is also that if a person commits well lets say murder and a cop uses entrapment to get them to court then it throwen out of court if a cop beats them for a confession it's throwen out of court it go's on and on
police can say they will do this and that but they cant i have seen many ppl go to court and walk out laughing at the cops for traffic offences what ace_vp is talking about is there bigest weapon cops have missinformation ppl just belive them then admit and get fined
well i dont care but ppl should know half of what they say is bull shit and i laugh at ppl that get done when they can walk away dont belive me then go do what you want it dosent worry me but listen to a cop well belive a cop well i think you get it
just to even it up i have had fines where i have been clearly in the wrong but that was my stuip falut
to top it all off no cop will say ahh you can actually get away with this
not to say that you can get away with it as you migh have gone past that
but there is a millon things that you could say to disprove all of this but it might be to late for you
well i might be a moron but a happy one with no loss of licence and no points off no record no nothing
where did you get your law degree vr1uz-fe?
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well i would just cop it if it were me personaly as going to court is fairly expencive but like i said i havent got nothing on me cuz i think quick
and for th record my mate was the first person in australia to be in court reguarding the terriost laws as he was 17 and the cop thought under the new act brought in by jonh howard he didnt have to have his parents there for a dui at the cop shop it was ground breaking in judge wrold for the time he got off he paid the childrens court barrister $3000 then the case was upgraded to the supreem court $7000 for the next barrister see court is expencive he got off but it would be cheaper to just cop it
LOL, yeah real expert. I did also say in my original post that you would need the marks on the road prove that a burnout was actually done.
For many offences police simply wont bother because there is no proof. Such as someone running a red light. Not many police will take a statement for that becuase as you say people could go around stirring shit. but seeing as we are talking about the offence in the original post all that is irrelevant.
WTF has has beating a confession out of someone got to do with what we are talking about? Evidence has to be collected legally and fairly, again no law degree needed to know that. Again not at all relevant to the original post.
No cops wont tell you you can get away with it, you have a right to silence but under some traffic legislation, such as rule 287 of the Australian Road Rules where you are required by law to suply a version after a car accident, you dont have that right to silence. Just the same as when a police officer asks you to supply the name of the person driving your car (if you are claiming it wasnt you) at the time it was used to commit and offence, you have to answer because if you dont its an OFFENCE.