ha good ol imports owners i dont see wahts so cool bout lots of camber and stretching tyres over rims it looks crap and makes a car look cheap
No Commodores in the pictures, i'm shocked.
Originally Posted by Yoda
Hmmm, interesting but I think I will reserve judgement for now. I can see the benefits for people who want excessive negative camber for purely cosmetic reasons, yet still drive in a straight line most of the time. I'm a bit skeptical about how they would work in a situation where you are using that negative camber though (i.e. corners - they didn't hook the car into anything tight in the video), would the tyre roll onto its outside edge and lose grip? They quite clearly used a tyre with quite a soft compound in the demonstration so its hardly comparable to a standard street tyre.
Hardly comparable? It's COMPLETELY comparable (as it's meant to be) and it's basic physics. A tyre of that shape doesn't lose grip or wear unevenly in a straight line but INCREASES stability, and most importantly performance and safety in a corner.
How can you tell the compound of a tyre by looking at it?
you use camber on a wheel so that when the car corners and the wheel leans you get a full foot print of the tyre on the ground thats the way i think of it anyway. these tyres would be good for strainght line with a camberd wheel cant see how it would help you round a corners
errrr... because they're already setup for a full footprint in the corner, with a stronger sidewall that flexes less. I think some people aren't fully understanding the shape of the tyre. It runs straight in a straight line with a full footprint and doesn't lose that in the corner like traditional tyres do.
Great find!!! Very Interesting.
I would be interested to see how these would perform on a properly setup race car, regular shaped tyres vs camber tyres. I suspect they would not perform as well around corners since the harder they are pushed, the less contact patch is on the road, which is the last thing you want when your pushing the limits of driver/car/tyres.
It would have exceptional straight line stability, but for anything that will see a circuit, defeats the purpose of adding camber. All you will do is overheat the outside edge of the tyre.
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Funny how people are commenting and know very little of how IRS actually works. Also, the point of the tyre design is for those people who don't drive the car hard enough to warrant negative camber.
Most people complain of inside tyre wear when lowering an IRS Commodore, clearly, they don't drive the car under the circumstances that require negative camber, or the tyres would not wear out on the inside.
I, for one, think it is a fantastic concept.
I've always wondered why someone didn't do this.. hopefully it kicks off so every IRS owner can see benefits.
I have seen tyres similar to this back in the 80s. They were race tyres used on a speedway car. The bloke that ran them made up his own rims because one bead was 15 inch and the other was 14 inch. The sidewalls of the tyres were different heights and the tread sat flat.
like troy, i often thought about it too, but just assumed there was a good reason behind it. all the cars with huge camber you see in pics arent for performance use, and not all of them have coil overs. id deff buy a set for the ass of the stato but can see the price of them would be huge even tho like the guy said 'there isnt any more product been used'